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Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




To Celebrate finally getting to the end of this thread, I'll post some models I've actually completed and am not embarassed to show to the internet.


Airfix P-51 1/72 (New Tooling!)


Airfix A6M2 1/72 (New Tooling)


Revell (of Germany) Go229 1/72 (reboxed)

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Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Does anyone know where I can get better decals for the Revell F/A-18c?

This Kit

Canada has only ever flown the A model.

While I'm at it how about for Revell's 1/144 F-15E and F-16C models?

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008





That's actually the opposite I was looking for, but now I want a CC-177 being escorted by 4 CF-188s in 1/144 hanging from my ceiling.

Also before I get too agnsty over whether the variety of plane is correct, I should see if the differences are easily correctable. Because if it's just a different engine cooler vent, or something, I don't really care.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Arquinsiel posted:

So... does anyone know of any 1:72-ish drone kits that aren't Italieri? I like the idea of having a Predator or Reaper to stick on the table for Force on Force when relevant but the Italieri kits are more than twice the price of a normal 1:72 plane and kind of hard to find around here.

I know for sure Platz has them in 1/72 (also the X-47B) but they are expensive too. I've seen at least one other manufacturer (also expensive) but don't remember which one.

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Feb 28, 2013

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Arquinsiel posted:

Never heard of Platz, and I can't navigate their website because I am a terrible person.

Well now I can only find the ucav on online vendors, so maybe I dreamed the whole thing. I'm pretty sure my LHS has them on the shelf though.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Yeah my workflow seems to be

Paint inside of fuselage if needed
Assemble then paint/decal cockpit
assemble boddy sans landing gear, landing gear doors, antenae, missiles, etc
tape cockpit and paint
paint missiles/etc on sprue
final construction
future (sometimes)
decals
(Future, oil washes, weathering whatever)
Satin or flat coat if needed.

Actually, missiles always go on as absolute last thing

edit: Remember that future really likes to have a day to cure before it stops reacting to thinners

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




What do people use for filler? I use Vallejo's filler (basically acrylic medium and marble dust) which is awesome for filling gaps and seam (spread on, wipe off with water, bob=your uncle) but doesn't take well to sanding.

I am trying to avoid organic solvents though which means most one part fillers are no good. Is there one I missed? Or does Tamiya Grey not stink like the squadron stuff used to?

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




compressioncut posted:

The modernized A-models currently flying should be pretty much indistinguishable from -Cs. Before the modernization, the big external difference was a couple of antennas on the vertical tails, which are probably unnoticeable in 1:144 scale.

You can tell if the reference photo you are looking at shows a modernized bird if it has the birdslicer antenna array in front of the windscreen.

Comprehensive nerd list, no pics http://www.ipmscanada.com/ipms/Reference_%20Article/Aircraft/Aircraft_Page/CF18Hornet.html
Thanks, I was looking for this.

I still want to build a Lo-vis USN F/A-18C in 1/144.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Yep, it does too. I even know where they write it on the box, so I don't know how I missed that. Would have bought the kit a long time ago, had I noticed that.

Oh and the store across the street from work doesn't have one right now, of course.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Airfix is one of my favorite model companies right now.

Their new mold 1/72 models are generally well engineered and build into really good looking models out of the box. You just need to be aware that you are buying a sub $10 model kit most times. Plus it's more aesthetic apeal than accuracy, I think. Hence super deep panel lines that aren't even close to scale, but paint up really good. They aren't Hassegawa or Tamiya, but they purty up real good.

Also their old stuff is very "airfix", so try to stick to the newer stuff:

http://www.airfix.com/airfix-products/new-models-for-2011/aircraft/
http://www.airfix.com/airfix-products/new-models-for-2012/aircraft-172-scale/
http://www.airfix.com/airfix-products/new-for-2013/aircraft-172-scale/

I have built a number of the models in these lists, and they really are nice, for a quick fun build. If I were to have a friend looking to get into the hobby, I would recomend one of these in a heartbeat.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Ensign Expendable posted:

The one with the cannon shoots! The one with the log jousts!

I can't tell if this is playing on Marxist dogma or Saturday morning toy commercials. This terrifies me.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Either in this thread or the Aeronautical insanity one I was complaining about shipping to Canada making buying models online basically a non-starter.

Someone recomemended SprueBrothers



Maybe not.
(Yes I like to build inexpensive models)

edit: it wasn't this thread...

edit2: Dragonusaonline.com might have gotten better. I got quoted $6.00 to ship one item just now.

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Apr 1, 2013

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Ensign Expendable posted:

These guys have absurdly cheap shipping.

Yeah, they're across the street from my office. I'm in their store once a week at the least.
They don't carry Dragon's older 1/144 stuff. Or any of Eduard's, or Platz's. And the Trumpeter 1/144 stuff disappears from stock really quickly. I buy all my paint, Airfix, Revell and Tamiya models from them though.

Also, give them your business. Only because it benefits me, though.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




I was going to offer to be a guinea pig, but their website is pretty horrible, and won't change prices to CAD or USD even though the dropdown is right there. It makes me MAAAADD!!! :argh:

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Vallejo's plastic putty is nice for a low chemical solution. Water soluble, so you fill thin cracks, then just wipe off the excess. You need to do it a couple of times though, so Tamiya is faster. Tamiya for big gaps, sink areas, etc. (I use the white stuff, I don't think it matters)

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




How much are you willing to spend?

http://dragonusaonline.com free shipping for orders over $99, loyalty program. Carries Dragon, Fujimi, Italeri, platz, zvesda, others. I've used. Their customer support is pretty good. e: shipping to Canada is not bad, be aware they ship all their Canadian orders to a distribution ctr in Vancouver to solve duty and customs problems. This means it takes a while for your stuff to arive.

http://www.scalehobbyist.com/ Awesome website, great selection, shipping less than $10 per order. I use their website to see what is out there, but have never ordered because :canada:

http://nostalgicplastic.com Sells mostly anigrand and miniwings resin planes. Cheap/free shipping to north america. Will use someday, I hope.

I will add more if I think of any.

edit:
wait you said ships.

http://www.freetimehobbies.com/ship-model-kits/ The guys who were bought out to sell these used to have awesome selection and not bad shipping, but I havn't even looked at the site lateley.

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Apr 5, 2013

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




I'm going to start posting WIPs to try to get discussion going. Also so you can all laugh at my terrible skills. Also so you can all groan at my ADD. Hopefully I'll even inspire others to do the same.

Who knows maybe I'll even finish one.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Bloody Hedgehog posted:

God-drat it! I do a lot of statues and busts, garage-kit stuff, and the amount of man-children in that sector of the hobby is staggering. It's one thing when someone's producing a "sexy girl" kit, and another upon revealing it and people start coming out of the woodwork to post drooling smiley-face emoticons and talk at length about how they'd love to get their hands on her tits. These aren't teen, XBox raging douchebags either; many, if not most, are 40+ year old guys.

Sometimes it seriously makes me want to quit the drat hobby. Garage Kits are such a small niche in model-making to begin with, that if you cut out dealing with leacherous old men with hardons for resin women, then you're eliminating 75% of the people producing kits. God-drat, this loving hobby sometimes.

Incidentally, if you frequent Modelingmadness.com, never ever ever drift into their figures gallery in the reviews section. You won't be able to read articles by a certain administrator/"editor" again.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Ensign Expendable posted:

Yup. Every company makes something like 3 different Tigers, but god forbid anyone except Zvezda and, occasionally, Tamiya, makes something interesting for the Soviets.

That's more of a famous tank thing than a yay Nazis thing at least.

Speaking of which, does anyone put swastikas on their models? I've never seen a factory kit ship with decals for them included but I've seen decal sheets of just swastikas. I leave them off on anything I build since I display my models and don't really want symbols associated with racism and fascism around my house, thank you very much.

edit: my posting WIP shots is postponed until I figure out where my camera went.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Pierzak posted:

That approach in the modeling/game companies actually bugs me quite a lot. Yes, 3rd Reich was horrible, Hitler was horrible, millions of people died in death camps, we know it already. If I make a tiny German plane with the proper historical markings on it doesn't make me a Nazi. But no, let's bend over to political correctness because German laws someone somewhere might get offended by a tiny Hakenkreuz. Yeah, if I saw a whole army in swastikas, I'd be more than a bit :what: It was mainly the iron cross, and somehow no one gets offended that that still is on German tanks in some form. But hey, let's just pretend the details never existed, like a certain mini manufacturer (forgot which one) with a German halftrack covered with a half-folded Nazi flag so the swastika isn't visible and they can sell in Germany. If you don't want to offend people, why put a huge "IMANAZI" cover on that vehicle at all? :psyduck: Talk about red cloth-waving :v:

And the swastika-only sheets might be to supplement the sets that remove them to be PC.

See I used to think the same, but really Hitler was a horrible man who's administration killed millions of people in death camps and the swastika was the symbol of that ideology, not that nation.

Pierzak posted:

BTW, I'm interested what do people who're bothered by Nazi/communist insignia do with the models? Paint them without markings? Use different (which?) markings? Paint the planes as a renovated contemporary aerobatic unit? Something else? I'm curious.

ed: and now I want to assembled a WW2 German plane demilitarized/tuned/painted in bright colors as an airshow/aerobatic piece. What are you making me do threaaad :argh:

I'm cool with national insignia of "evil empires" on my models, so I'll build them out of box. I've come from too much time painting fantasy wargame miniatures, so I look to paint for aesthetics over historical accuracy. That being said, it it were a model of something like the Bismark, with it's enormous nazi flags painted onto the fore and aft decks, I would be a lot more conflicted.

And you need to build Aeroflot versions of German light bomber now

:frogsiren: do it....

fake edit: I was looking for a hypnotoad emote, but all i could find was :godwinning: Yes that's godwinning.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




YES!

This is what I wanted.

So here's my (very humble) contribution. All works in progress. (click for needlessly large)

Airfix Bf110 C-2
Just finished: Major Decals
Next up: Stencils (see sheet underneath) euugghhh
Canopy (even more euuuuuggghhh)
fix paint around decals and on wheels
antenae and bomb racks
weathering
bombs
Commentary: Hey I don't even see enormous mold lines or seams! Told you airfix makes a great kit
I know the blue on the bottom is very wrong. Don't actually care, it's pretty.



Here are ones that I've also been working on:
Dragon F/A-18F (ready for fist decal pass)
Revell F/A-18C (Ready for masking)
Dragon Tornado F.3 (Assembling, hilariously bad cockpit)


edit:

Pierzak posted:


Got any pics?



Meh, hosed up my challenge. (Aeroflot was Soviet and I'm dumb)

I meant the later 30s planes that Germany was trying to pass off as civilian designs. bf110, Ju52, etc.

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Apr 9, 2013

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




SkunkDuster posted:

A Hind is on my wish list after I gain some more skill and confidence from my 25 year hiatus of model building. Who made that kit you did and what scale is it? Was it a good kit, or would you have gone with a different one if you had to do it all over again? I'm looking at this 1/48 kit and am wondering if it is a good kit or if it is just an exercise in frustration. From my foggy memory of the 80s, it seemed like Monogram were the good kits and Revell were crap, but now they are the same company and I don't know what to think.

It's apparently a rebox of an old monogram kit. Raised panel lines. Minor shape and detail errors. Fun to build, according to the reviews I saw. I haven't touched or looked at the model though.

http://www.ipmsusa3.org/reviews2/aircraft/kits/revell_48_hind/revell_48_hind.htm

fake edit: I know Overdude posted while I was writing this, but the link above has a few in-progress shots so you can see the nice cockpit.

if you want 1/72 scale you can get one from Zvesda, Italeri, or Hobby boss

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008





I seriously was on the third photo of the page before I figured out what was going on.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Okay so it's been a month since I posted a WIP update, but playoffs and all that.

Anyways I actually worked on models in the last week

This one, specifically. Started Monday, putting it down for awhile Friday.



And a photo with it next to the F-18C that I added some paint to a few weeks ago

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




I love your work Baronjutter

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




that sounds about right. It is synthetic floor wax.

I'll throw up a pic of my bottle so you can see what it looks like.

edit:

why is there a mig 15 on this picture?

VV Actually, follow the link below, much better info VV

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jun 3, 2013

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Link to a quote of HKR's awesome airbrush writeup found in the Wargame Mini painting thread

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3210214&pagenumber=100#post374381003

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




I use paints straight out of the bottle in my airbrush. :smug:

(Vallejo Model Air)

When I thin, I use on-brand thinner, I've had much better results that way.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




My trick is (once I get the rough positioning right) to put some water on the model where the decal is going (just a drop should do) I can then float the decal around until it's about where I want and wick up the water with either a brush or the corner of a piece of paper towel. You can always re-float a decal on a drop of water until it sets up, so keep playing with it.

Then apply micro-sol and if needed press gently with a clean wad of paper towel to suck it right into the grooves.

Are you letting the decal sit for a couple minutes before sliding off the backing paper? It should slide without resistance so you can position it and pull the backing paper out from behind it.

But Instrument gauges seem to hate me. It's why I love 1:144.



Edit:

Remember this?

Jonny Nox posted:


Here are ones that I've also been working on:
Dragon F/A-18F (ready for fist decal pass)
Revell F/A-18C (Ready for masking)
Dragon Tornado F.3 (Assembling, hilariously bad cockpit)



I've worked on some other stuff in the meantime
but...

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Aug 8, 2013

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Baronjutter posted:

I was having weird problems with my airbrush and had some paint that just wasn't flowing. I actually added a tiny bit of windex from my cleaning pot to the paint I was using and suddenly it was flowing like a dream. I don't know if this was a good idea but it worked for me.

It is the recomended thinner for Games Workshop paints.

As for Vallejo, I was thinning with water, but switched to their branded thinner and got much better results. But YMMV.

edit: clarity

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Use a cheaper model for your next one though. There could be issues when painting over a glued and primed body that don't show up on a very smooth plastic spoon.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Nebakenezzer posted:

Tried it. Not enough weight, believe it or not.

got a source for sheet lead? Know any x-ray service guys?

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Not a bad week, but the photo is poo poo.



From left to right
Zvezda PZ IV Ausf D
Flames of War Stug III
Zvezda Sd.Kfz.251/1 Ausf.B
Zvezda Sd.Kfz.222
Plastic Soldier T-70 (not as red as in photo)
Zvezda T-34/76 (mod 1940)
Flames of War Firefly
Flames of War Sherman

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Ensign Expendable posted:

Are those 1/100 scale? Can you post more detailed photos? I kind of want to buy a bunch of 1/100 models and make dioramas of some smaller famous battles (Raseiniai, Ogledow, etc), where even 1/72 would be pushing it, space-wise.
They're 1/100 scale.

I'm gonna try to get better shots later this week. I'm down to one light in my basement, so I should probably fix that first.

The Flames of War stuff is probably your best bet for getting obscure models, but the stuff I have is from the Open Fire! box so is plastic instead of resin and metal.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Jonny Nox posted:

They're 1/100 scale.

I'm gonna try to get better shots later this week. I'm down to one light in my basement, so I should probably fix that first.

The Flames of War stuff is probably your best bet for getting obscure models, but the stuff I have is from the Open Fire! box so is plastic instead of resin and metal.

Okay, I found my 10 year old Z10, so I can take something like macro photos. (My normal camera is a D50, but no macro lenses makes taking pictures very hit/miss) If you want more, I can post properly lit photos when I get off my lazy rear end and set up some kind of diffuse lighting setup.

Anyways. Zvezda 1/100 models are somewhat limited in range, being almost entirely eastern front combatants. They are part of their Art of Tactic wargame line, I guess, but are relatively well detailed and snap together which makes for rapid assembly if that's what you want. The four I've built have been free of molding and fitment problems. Sold as single models, I pay $5-$6 per model in Canada. There is no decals, and no figures or stowage on the sprue. A flag can be attached to the back though!


This one turns out to be not even remotely finished. I'm going to have to figure out a way to make my photos look more like real life, since the contrast is being jacked way up.

Plastic Soldier models come in 1/100 and 1/72 scale. I've only seen them in group boxes, but apparently they sell single tank and battalion deals as well. They are very detailed but still quite limited in range. Although they have Western front tanks. They also sell soldiers, heavy weapons, and half tracks (with figures) There were no decals in the box I bought, but there was a tank commander figure. The pack I bought was 5 T-70s for about $29. I'm going to go back next week and grab a box set with 5 M-3s and, like, 40 crewen. The fitment and molding were incredibly nice, but ejection pegs on the back of the tracks are an annoyance. Expect to pay around $30 for a box of 4-5 vehicles, or ~120 soldier, or 12 heavy weapons with 60 crew.

(sorry my camera liked the burnt sienna pigment so much)

Finally, Flames of War are miniatures designed for a wargame and go together like wargame miniatures. The ones I have are plastic from their box set, but the stuff they sell singly are all resin and white metal. Very detailed from what I can see, they are going to be a lot more work to put together, and will have to be assembled with superglue. I'm assuming a lot of filler will be needed. The range of models is HUGE! Almost any tank, vehicle, heavy weapon, or troop type you can think of is available; including Finnish patrols, and Italian tanks (Look great, ran terrible apparently) Expensive too, they import from New Zealand if memory serves and a single tank will cost you $12 or more. Boxes of 3-4 tanks will push $80 easily. Tanks all come with a commander. Decal sheets are available seperatly, and I don't really know how they sell stowage. I'm pretty sure infantry all come with bases, which is nice.
edit: Stowage is sold as part of platoon sets. Turrets are affixed with magnets.



I haven't measured any of these models to check if they are in scale, I can if you ask.

Hope this helps, expect more braile scale tanks in the future.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Honestly they're more detailed than my poo poo photography makes them look. But they're certainly not up to 1/72 scale standards. I would say for huge dioramas any of the companies I posted would be more than adequate. If you are focusing on the tanks, go larger scale. Comparing my T-34 with the Dragon Armor Pro version you really see the difference in hatch covers and smaller panels. Plus tow hooks are actual hooks not place holders etc.


You'll notice the hull machine gun is not even there, tow ropes are molded on, rivets are missing.

I'm still going to keep making them though (because they can be finished in a day or two)

edit:
I'm starting to get this old camera to do what I want it to. sometimes.

Anyways here's some figures I had laying around. Italeri Hussar, Flames of War US paratrooper LT, Airfix USAAF bomber navigator



edit 2: From the front (original file this time click for larger)

Jonny Nox fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Oct 1, 2013

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




pageerror404 posted:

I just finished a perfect glossy coat on my newest model car using acrylic paint... I'm very surprised and impressed.

I have a CF-105 model that eagerly awaits your trip report!

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




I like your russian tank green a lot more than mine? How are you painting that?

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Ensign Expendable posted:

Mixed Tamiya Olive Drab and Flat Brown. There may have been some Dark Yellow involved. I'm very happy with the colour too, it looks much better than my previous attempts.

Splendid, here's MY Dragon T-34/76 mod. 1941 Flash is overdoing the weathering. I had already put down the green.

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Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




I've had limited success with waxed fly tying thread, but it was a little heavy for the scale. Are you married? Ask your wife to donate a couple hairs. Alternately I've heard of people pulling apart cross-stitch floss. Stretched sprue is still probably your best bet for straight runs.

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