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I kind of want to get in to this wooden ship thing, but I've never done it before. Plenty of other modeling, and wargaming. Is this a good kit for a beginner? It says "Junior" so I'm guessing so. It's also cheap.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2015 17:21 |
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 23:25 |
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The Locator posted:My gut reaction is.. no, for a couple reasons. Thank you! I already ordered it, so I'll guess I'll keep those thoughts in mind. I'll try a more detailed kit after. None of the inexpensive ones seem to be from the age of sail, but I suppose to get started maybe that's alright (that's really my interest).
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2015 15:02 |
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The Locator posted:I'm not sure there is a true 'beginner' level kit for a fully rigged sailing ship from the age of sail that isn't a solid hull kit, regardless of what skill level the manufacturers put on them. The small boats that I linked to are a way to relatively cheaply discover whether you like working with wood in the same fashion needed for the larger ships (with or without rigging depending on what you pick), and still getting a nice looking model out of it. I don't need a fully-rigged ship to start, it's sort of why I went with a cutter. I'll post photos, and if I enjoy this at least a little, I'll grab one of those other kits you mentioned, wrong-era or not. See how I like it.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2015 03:16 |
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Not even Matchbox, sometimes they're cheap plastic shells.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2015 17:37 |
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Wow, that's awesome. I want one.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2015 03:10 |
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The Locator posted:Please share some photos of the materials in the kit when you get it and let me know what you think of it. Alright, so it arrived. Here's the box: These are all the parts, which seem straightforward enough. It even has little pewter cannons. The sails: These are the "instructions": I put that in quotes because they don't really tell you how to do much. It seems straight forward enough, and they have some tips, but the kit says it's for 10+ and I don't really think a 10 year old would love just diving in to this and trying to figure it out. I'm not even sure I want to, except I paid money for it, so I'm going to anyway. I'll keep everything updated as I go through it.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2015 18:39 |
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So first question. It says to shape the parts, I should get them wet (easy) and then hammer them (what?). The hammer they show is not a hammer I own, and that seems like a weird way to do things. So do I need to go buy a hammer like they have shown, or is there an easier way to shape the wood?
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2015 17:16 |
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The Locator posted:What are you trying to shape? I've never heard of using a hammer to do anything on a wooden model, except maybe drive in small brass tacks. It's for the bulwarks on the side (bottom piece): Here's the instructions:
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2015 19:19 |
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The Locator posted:So the theory behind shaping them like that is if you 'indent' a piece of wood, it will bend towards that side. You can achieve the same effect by rolling something round along the wood while applying pressure, or using a type of plank-bender that pushes into just a single side of the wood. Thank you, that's helped a ton. For the record, I sort of think this kit is awful. Well, not the kit itself, that seems fine, but the lack of directions. The box says "You don't have to read!" which is really just a translation for "we're loving lazy!" They have photos for the steps, but they're not terribly clear as to how to get parts to fit. Fortunately for me, I have years of experience with other types of models, so I know to test fit every single part before even gluing a thing, and it's proved useful. If I were 10, as the box suggests, I would have thrown this away already. E: Just broke the starboard bulwark. 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jan 16, 2015 |
# ¿ Jan 16, 2015 17:12 |
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2015 03:11 |
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Really, all it takes is some judicious use of a pliers, a dremel, a saw, and a heat gun, a roll of duct tape, 4 ounces of urine, a slightly used hatchet, a steak, medium rare, a centrifuge, and an advanced degree in medieval literature.
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 13:30 |
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The Locator posted:I actually don't think that everything in those albums is from the same guy, as they have different names, and the album with the work area setups has 10 or so pictures that are clearly different setups/areas. Each album lists the artist, so they're definitely not the same person. As far as the paints go, even though GW sucks in so, so many ways, Citadel paints are usually pretty good (until they dry out).
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2015 17:26 |
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Rotten Cookies posted:So... has anybody done or thought about throwing some kits together for a Mad Max kinda thing? Because I'm thinkin' about it. Thinkin' real hard. But first I want to finish these Battlestar Vipers. The June issue of Wargames Illustrated is all about post-apocalyptic gaming, and there are two Mad Max specific articles in it. One is about a set of rules some dudes developed over beer, and it has a ton of great conversion pictures. The other is how to build a bus that is also an armored fence to keep giant people and their gangs from stealing your petrol.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2015 20:00 |
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Ortazel posted:Go one page back and look at the piece of dowel with scaled ft markings. As stated before, the average sailor then would have been much closer to 5'0 due to terrible nutrition. The elm tree pumps look like they are scaled to about 9-10" in diameter, which sounds about right. That sort of depends where the sailor is from and this being an American vessel, they probably were not that much shorter than most people today.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 15:51 |
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SkunkDuster posted:I was just interested in the paint. I don't need any brushes and I'd rather pay $43 for an acrylic nail polish display thing than $60 for their case. I use this for my paints (and I probably should buy another one at this point).
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2015 13:09 |
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Darth Brooks posted:For the longest time I wanted to build an AT-AT and motorize it. I love how it moves with stop-motion clunkiness, just like the ones in the film!
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2015 12:47 |
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I vote for a 74-gun ship of the line a la The Locator!
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2015 18:39 |
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The Locator posted:You mean the model or the real ship? The model, no, the bowsprit and rigging won't weigh much. Real ships adjusted cargo and ballast to affect trim, to the point that as the journey went on and stores were used up, they re-did it to keep trim in check.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 16:23 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:I love the BA-10. It's so awkward and blocky but with a fuckton of firepower for an armoured car. Then there's the BA-64, but that loses the silly interbellum look for something an armoured car should actually look like. I really need to get kits of these things. I refer to the ones in Flames of War as armored rollerskates.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2015 01:37 |
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big_g posted:So I started the paint job on my crap tank this weekend but I'm not sure I'm doing it right. Looks right to me.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 23:13 |
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That looks great. Are you planning on painting algae or some sort of grime on the dock itself for the waterline?
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2015 18:00 |
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The Locator posted:I also made a stand, that isn't finished, but you can see what it's headed for. I like that the stand looks like a drydock framing thing (no idea what they're called). Like they're ready to knock out those front beams with a sledgehammer and let the ship slide in to the water.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2015 11:06 |
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I watched a video on the serv-o-matic thing, it's pretty cool. As far as breaks, after I broke that piece on my little ship, I put it in the box and haven't gone back. I will. Eventually?
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2015 18:50 |
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Warmachine posted:So what would this thread recommend as material for modeling 1/72 scale trailer hitch testicles? Asking for a friend. Greenstuff. Already looks kind of rubbery.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2015 23:30 |
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For those interested, here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0PyCi_vy7Y E: The Russian one, video is much longer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaJ149UMuNY 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Aug 14, 2015 |
# ¿ Aug 14, 2015 13:08 |
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TasogareNoKagi posted:Does it matter if the OP hasn't posted in over a year? And even longer in this thread? Considering admin have to change it anyway, probably not.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2015 14:36 |
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I have one of those pin cushions (mine's green) but it doesn't have the top part. Neither does my wife's. How did you keep it on!?
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 23:12 |
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The Locator posted:Thank you. I've actually been following your build over there.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2015 15:39 |
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I feel bad, but I know where I'd be aiming my swivel guns if I came across that in a battle.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 12:32 |
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Jeherrin posted:Are the swivel-guns breech loaders? Because I'm wondering how they would have reloaded the one you just moved. Swivel them vertically? Or some poor sailor has to hang out on the ratlines.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 13:37 |
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The Locator posted:The swivel guns are not breach loading. This may be another case of the model designer not building for accuracy, or like many things on warships of that era, the crew just had to deal with it by a combination of turning the gun as far as possible, and swabbing/ramming the gun while leaning outside the ship. The main deck guns are just as bad, as the muzzle will barely come inboard beyond the bulwarks on a couple of them, so they would have to be loaded by either working inside the gun port, or from outside, or some combination. Thank God for flexible rammers!
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 17:27 |
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The Locator: I found a site through MSW that lets you sort ship models in all sorts of ways. They listed a few beginner models that also have planking, and I think I may try my hand at one. The ones I liked are all Caldercraft, who lists Snake as their beginner model, but it's $350. The other site says the Cutter Sherbourne model is also a good beginner one, and it's only $130. That seems like an okay investment to try something. I think you recommended something else in that price range at some point, but the Sherbourne is at least from the era I enjoy. Do you think that'd be a good one?
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 00:17 |
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The Locator posted:I agree with you, the pale color is 'meh'. I much prefer the old yellow ochre color. $129 (plus tools and probably some replacement parts) is easier to swallow than $229 if it's something I hate. Maybe as the second build, though. E: I found the Sherbourne for just under $100 US, and they have the book people seem to like for building it in stock, but then it's $110 for shipping out of the UK. 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Aug 21, 2015 |
# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 12:54 |
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Yeah I think it came to like $145 shipped, which is what I'll do when it's time. Then I can order the $25 book from that site in the UK and pay an additional $25 in shipping maybe. I mean that shipping is insane, I really don't get it.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 14:56 |
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Cool beans. I'll hit you up when the time is right!
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 15:55 |
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The Locator posted:What book do you want? http://www.grbsolutions.co.uk/5.html It looks like I might be able to get it direct from the author for 28GBP shipped, which isn't awful actually. As it is, I have a new coat to sew up, some trousers to make, and some breeches to finish, and then it'll be busy season at work, so it'll likely be next year. Or maybe I'll just buy it sooner because I'm crazy and have too much poo poo going on.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2015 18:15 |
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Trawling (see what I did there?) modelshipworld.com should give you plenty of ideas, but if there's a good beginner guide/book I'd be interested too.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2015 15:29 |
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The Locator posted:The nerd in me chose a name. Yes!
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2015 22:01 |
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The Locator posted:Model Expo ( https://www.modelexpo-online.com ) is having another 50% off anything sale, including the Corel wooden ship kits which they won't even get in stock until September, and of course as with the last one, the entire line of Vallejo paints. Hmm. This looks like it might be a good way to jump in for cheap: http://www.modelexpo-online.com/product.asp?ITEMNO=MS1457 At 50% off, I'm not sure how I could lose. That's cheaper than the solid-hull ship I'm already not building. E: Going to see what others have done with it on MSW to make sure it won't suck to build, since the database website thingy I posted earlier calls it "advanced." E2: Oh it looks like they did a big group build of this model, there's a whole subforum dedicated to it, including a thread by the guy who designed the model in the first place. 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Aug 25, 2015 |
# ¿ Aug 25, 2015 12:23 |
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2024 23:25 |
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Yeah, looking at the build logs it looks complex. It's cheap though at 50% off. I suppose so are all of them at this point. E: Maybe the Rattlesnake. It's less than I was going to spend on the Sherbourne with the sale, lots of people have built it, and although it's "intermediate" I'm not new to model building in general. Wood, perhaps.... 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Aug 25, 2015 |
# ¿ Aug 25, 2015 14:14 |