- stun runner
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seizure later posted:
g_mangler is the best poster and i want him to become property of lf.
g_mangler posted:
You are sitting me asking me why people can't easily build their own police forces and military forces and you're calling me dumb? maybe we should have private court systems. I could make my own badge and go arrest anyone I wanted and lock them up. Sounds like a great plan. your post is a shining jewel of collosal ignorance. welcome to your own stupidity.
my coworkers are asking me why i'm laughing so hard
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LF: your post is a shining jewel of collosal ignorance. welcome to your own stupidity.
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how are you gentlemen
all of your private court rooms are belong to us
welcome to your own stupidity make your time
ha ha ha
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you have strawmanned him to a ridiculous degree
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not queer for western digital
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GreenFuz posted:
for every one you kill seven will take its place
why so? whatever that job pays it can't be enough to be worth the threat of being murdered by partisans
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Jul 24, 2009 22:20
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Raptop posted:
why so? whatever that job pays it can't be enough to be worth the threat of being murdered by partisans
not to sound like human scum but the money they're paid is pretty worth possibly being disemboweled by a deranged pensioner.
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- Muddy Terrain
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paradol and g dude for the thunderdome
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Jul 24, 2009 22:33
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o yeah wasn't g_mangler that guy who made the post about how it was his wife's fault for getting raped?
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Jul 24, 2009 22:35
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private bureaucracy is better than government bureaucracy because they are making money off your illness instead of treating it
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Jul 24, 2009 22:54
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pvt bureaucracy can go on pretty much unchecked
its like they hate their stakeholders
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Jul 24, 2009 23:31
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p sure that is the argument against nhc in america
just dont get sick you pussies
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Jul 24, 2009 23:36
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Gazaville Slugger posted:
anyone else want some of this dank gbs posting? guarantee you will NOT see the world the same way after u hit it
i dont want dat poo poo in my spinal chord dog
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randomnoise posted:
I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE SHITHEEL
this morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy.
I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility.
After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.
At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.
After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it's valuables thanks to the local police department.
I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right
I'm pretty sure I missed a few. I wonder what kind of fun could fall out from cleaning it up a bit and tossing it at a few newspapers comments sections
edit: needs some consumer product safety commission somewhere at least
Ok I'm saving this, this is genius, you are genius.
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Xachariah posted:
Ok I'm saving this, this is genius, you are genius.
its seems like its a variation on this email forward
quote:Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.
With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards.
Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards.
He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
there is also the conservative version that i beleive is out there that i cannot seem to find
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please find it please i need to scoff uncontrollably before work tonight
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Bolek posted:
its seems like its a variation on this email forward
there is also the conservative version that i beleive is out there that i cannot seem to find
I've actually never seen that before and just threw it all together myself but it's obviously not shocking new material. at least, not to those of us commie liberals that got anything out of our public socialist education.
I'm kinda interested in seeing just how far it can really be stretched (and still be readable)...like I mentioned the congressionally mandated time zones and standard/savings times and the NIST+US naval observatory keeping BIG GOVERNMENTS claws around time itself
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are you that mainframe hacker guy?
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randomnoise posted:
I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE SHITHEEL
this morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy.
I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility.
After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the national weather service of the national oceanographic and atmospheric administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the national aeronautics and space administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US department of agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the food and drug administration.
At the appropriate time as regulated by the US congress and kept accurate by the national institute of standards and technology and the US naval observatory, I get into my national highway traffic safety administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the environmental protection agency, using legal tender issed by the federal reserve bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US postal service and drop the kids off at the public school.
After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the department of labor and the occupational safety and health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to ny house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it's valuables thanks to the local police department.
I then log on to the internet which was developed by the defense advanced research projects administration and post on freerepublic.com and fox news forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right
I'm pretty sure I missed a few. I wonder what kind of fun could fall out from cleaning it up a bit and tossing it at a few newspapers comments sections
edit: needs some consumer product safety commission somewhere at least
please post this everywhere like reddit and on every comment for every blog involving healthcare reform.... oh what? the politicians went on vacation. alright then, healthcare debate over.
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OneArmedScissor posted:
let it burn...
just burn america to the ground and start over
this is what i said earlier, and this is what i'm saying now.
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BABY FINLAND posted:
private bureaucracy is better than government bureaucracy because they are making money off your illness instead of treating it
right! This is america! america is about free enterprise because we said so!
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SPACE-A-HOLIC
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I was told by a usually non-political coworker that Obama's healthcare plan was to force all docotors to work for the state "like social workers" and getting a doctor's appointment would need six weeks' notice. When I asked him where he heard that he responded, "That's what he said in that television program."
Whatever republicans are paying their talking heads, they're doing a great job!
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jesus christ
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randomnoise posted:
I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE SHITHEEL
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I'm pretty sure I missed a few. I wonder what kind of fun could fall out from cleaning it up a bit and tossing it at a few newspapers comments sections
edit: needs some consumer product safety commission somewhere at least
This is all great except for the inclusion of the federal reserve bank.
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jesus christ
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JonoT45 posted:
the fed could be considered more "liberal" since it supports gving the federal government more power
sorta kinda depends i guess
no
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isnt it a central body governing the control of a fiat currency and its use in the states and world?
and all that business with creating money and controlling prices
im probably wrong so pls tell me whats up so I don't go around being a huge jackass
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Jul 25, 2009 13:39
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- Joementum
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jesus christ
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JonoT45 posted:
isnt it a central body governing the control of a fiat currency and its use in the states and world?
and all that business with creating money and controlling prices
im probably wrong so pls tell me whats up so I don't go around being a huge jackass
the federal reserve is not part of the US government and is opposed to more government power. in fact, it regularly refuses even meager oversight by the government in the form of transparency into its actions.
it's also only "liberal" in the sense that it liberally funnels cash to the chiefs of the finance sector.
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isnt it more quasi-federal?
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JonoT45 posted:
isnt it more quasi-federal?
no
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warwick5s posted:
death to the investor class, death to capitalists, death to america
quote:That’s bad enough, but what I didn’t mention is that the “surcharge” would affect capital gains taxes, too. The rate on long-term capital gains is now 15%. If Obama’s plan is enacted, it would jump to 25.6%.
I can’t think of a surer way to destroy the stock market — what’s left of it — than to raise taxes on capital gains. Isn’t it already hard enough to make money in stocks? 
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The Federal Reserve was intentionally cut off from government oversight and control during its inception, supposedly with the intention of having monetary policy not affected by politics. History shows that it didn't work out too well when ideologues like Greenspan took over.
Of course we know the REAL reason was to concentrate power in the Jew bankers :kyoon:
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t3ch3 posted:
This is all great except for the inclusion of the federal reserve bank.
thanks, there's a few parts I think are kinda clumsily put together like the time one and the fire/police.
I'll probably drop the fed part and include something about a paycheck going to an fdic insured bank account or something, and try to clean up the overall flow a bit before trying to send it off to newpaper comments for fun or make a youtube commercial out of it or something
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Is anyone here familiar with Italy's Servicio Sanitaris Nazionale? In that WHO ranking they come 2nd but I can't find any real info about it since no one really cares about Italy.
Am I understanding correctly that there are some decent sized out of pocket fees for anything beyond seeing the family doctor?
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if people want health care, they should either get a job or join the military.
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never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man
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Marman1209 posted:
Is anyone here familiar with Italy's Servicio Sanitaris Nazionale? In that WHO ranking they come 2nd but I can't find any real info about it since no one really cares about Italy.
Am I understanding correctly that there are some decent sized out of pocket fees for anything beyond seeing the family doctor?
It perked my week up when I got some food at a sandwich place and the guy behind the counter was parroting talking points about socialized medicine. He concluded his spiel with "Well I guess I'll just move to Italy."
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Data posted:
oh my, they may actually have to work for a living
What we need is something akin to the Daily Show's "Republican Talking Points from the Mouths of Fifth Graders", except depict homeless people presenting these arguments about how capital gains taxes prevent them from making money in stocks and therefor UHC == bad.
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Phobeste posted:
It perked my week up when I got some food at a sandwich place and the guy behind the counter was parroting talking points about socialized medicine. He concluded his spiel with "Well I guess I'll just move to Italy."
Sandwich makers get free healthcare, or is he THAT fond of spending money on things that should be free?
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not sure how you all feel about Bill Maher, but he had a nice article at the huffpo
New Rule: Not Everything in America Has to Make a Profit
quote:
How about this for a New Rule: Not everything in America has to make a profit. It used to be that there were some services and institutions so vital to our nation that they were exempt from market pressures. Some things we just didn't do for money. The United States always defined capitalism, but it didn't used to define us. But now it's becoming all that we are.
Did you know, for example, that there was a time when being called a "war profiteer" was a bad thing? But now our war zones are dominated by private contractors and mercenaries who work for corporations. There are more private contractors in Iraq than American troops, and we pay them generous salaries to do jobs the troops used to do for themselves -- like laundry. War is not supposed to turn a profit, but our wars have become boondoggles for weapons manufacturers and connected civilian contractors.
Prisons used to be a non-profit business, too. And for good reason -- who the hell wants to own a prison? By definition you're going to have trouble with the tenants. But now prisons are big business. A company called the Corrections Corporation of America is on the New York Stock Exchange, which is convenient since that's where all the real crime is happening anyway. The CCA and similar corporations actually lobby Congress for stiffer sentencing laws so they can lock more people up and make more money. That's why America has the world;s largest prison population -- because actually rehabilitating people would have a negative impact on the bottom line.
Television news is another area that used to be roped off from the profit motive. When Walter Cronkite died last week, it was odd to see news anchor after news anchor talking about how much better the news coverage was back in Cronkite's day. I thought, "Gee, if only you were in a position to do something about it."
But maybe they aren't. Because unlike in Cronkite's day, today's news has to make a profit like all the other divisions in a media conglomerate. That's why it wasn't surprising to see the CBS Evening News broadcast live from the Staples Center for two nights this month, just in case Michael Jackson came back to life and sold Iran nuclear weapons. In Uncle Walter's time, the news division was a loss leader. Making money was the job of The Beverly Hillbillies. And now that we have reporters moving to Alaska to hang out with the Palin family, the news is The Beverly Hillbillies.
And finally, there's health care. It wasn't that long ago that when a kid broke his leg playing stickball, his parents took him to the local Catholic hospital, the nun put a thermometer in his mouth, the doctor slapped some plaster on his ankle and you were done. The bill was $1.50, plus you got to keep the thermometer.
But like everything else that's good and noble in life, some Wall Street wizard decided that hospitals could be big business, so now they're run by some bean counters in a corporate plaza in Charlotte. In the U.S. today, three giant for-profit conglomerates own close to 600 hospitals and other health care facilities. They're not hospitals anymore; they're Jiffy Lubes with bedpans. America's largest hospital chain, HCA, was founded by the family of Bill Frist, who perfectly represents the Republican attitude toward health care: it's not a right, it's a racket. The more people who get sick and need medicine, the higher their profit margins. Which is why they're always pushing the Jell-O.
Because medicine is now for-profit we have things like "recission," where insurance companies hire people to figure out ways to deny you coverage when you get sick, even though you've been paying into your plan for years.
When did the profit motive become the only reason to do anything? When did that become the new patriotism? Ask not what you could do for your country, ask what's in it for Blue Cross/Blue Shield.
If conservatives get to call universal health care "socialized medicine," I get to call private health care "soulless vampires making money off human pain." The problem with President Obama's health care plan isn't socialism, it's capitalism.
And if medicine is for profit, and war, and the news, and the penal system, my question is: what's wrong with firemen? Why don't they charge? They must be commies.
Oh my God! That explains the red trucks!
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