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hobo on the news posted:america as it exists today could not be sustained if you cut defense spending in any meaningful way, the defense spending is necessary for america to exert influence around the world and safeguard its foreign interests. i agree uhc should be implemented since it would help businesses by reducing cost for a worker, but cutting the defense budget is the wrong way to go shut the gently caress up
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2009 16:59 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 05:22 |
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quote:Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says he'll ditch bipartisanship in the Senate if it means getting a health care reform bill. reid, growing a spine...?
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2009 01:57 |
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Gazaville Slugger posted:republican plan: good luck, 30 million of you well at least my taxes won't be going to some lazy friend of the family under this one!
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2009 02:48 |
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listen man if i can't get 0% for two years on that new 50" plasma i'll surely die
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2009 04:14 |
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mistermojo posted:http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/daschle-folds-on-federal-public-health-care-plan.html aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2009 18:11 |
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randomnoise posted:noice
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2009 20:51 |
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well i guess here's hoping i can make it to vancouver before i get old and start needing healthcare
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2009 03:05 |
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tacodaemon posted:we in the USA seriously have the shittiest political system profit uber alles
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2009 17:06 |
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here's my health insurance story: Two years ago my wife got a cavity filled, and then a call an hour later that the dental hygienist cut herself while she was working on her, and to go to the clinic that THEY have insurance under to get a blood test. She got her blood drawn, went to sit in the lobby for the results, and started to feel faint. She went to the receptionist, told her she was going to pass out and asked if she had any juice or water or something. The receptionist responded "I can't help you." Next thing she knows she's in an ambulance. She apparently passed out, hit her chin on a chair, then cracked her head on the floor, resulting in a big gash on her chin and bleeding out of her ear. 16 stitches, CAT scan, EKG, IV, etc. After recovering she made some calls to make sure that the clinic's insurance company would be covering all the costs, and they assured her that they would be taking care of it. Fast forward to a month ago, when she does her annual credit check and what shows up but a $3000 bill from the hospital, in collections no less! No calls, no letters, nothing. I figure that since she wasn't billing her insurance company they just figured it wasn't a large enough cost that any lawyers would take the case to fight it (and they were right!) so they'd just throw it on us and see what happens. So now we're stuck in this purgatory of sorts, and what makes it even better is that she's on my insurance now, so now we're trying to either get the dentist's insurance carrier to pay for it or the insurance company that she's no longer with and they have no incentive to pay for it. Right now both are putting their finger on their nose and yelling "not it!" death to insurance companies, death to america ps. lf any advice for this situation would be cool too I suppose
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2009 21:56 |
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it doesn't seem so hard to move to canada if you have a degree vancouver would be a pretty nice place to live
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2009 22:17 |
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oh also to add to the insurance story from before, my wife has called her old insurance company twice a day every day to try to file this as a claim with them: her account person doesn't answer the phone and won't return calls, and if she talks to anyone else they immediately forward her to the account person's phone
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2009 22:51 |
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Der Meister posted:abolish the senate problem solved yeah, when the proportional branch doesn't have the votes to pass a bill WITHOUT a public option then perhaps the senate should pay attention
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2009 15:48 |
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At least the House isn't completely worthless: http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm?ContentID=446&ParentID=0&SectionID=66&SectionTree=66&lnk=b&ItemID=444 quote:(Washington DC) - Members of the Congressional TriCaucus - comprised of the Congressional Black Caucus, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus - along with the Congressional Progressive Caucus, which together make up nearly 120 Members of the House and Senate, today held a press conference to reiterate their call that any Health Care reform must include a public health plan option. The Republicans can be expected to vote against anything that's proposed, so that'd be enough to vote down any bill without a public plan, right?
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2009 17:47 |
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quote:One source familiar with Kerry's unexpected suggestion said that the idea seemed to have little impact on the meeting and that the senators quickly moved on.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2009 19:26 |
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Gazaville Slugger posted:every politician in washington is really underestimating the public clamor for universal healthcare, or at the very least a viable public option. pretty sure the 1.5 million dollars a DAY being spent by lobbyists and the media concern trolling for their advertising buddies are completely drowning out said clamor
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2009 20:27 |
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i think i'm past the point of being angry about this, and i'm now just deeply depressed no matter who we elect poo poo is never going to change in this country
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2009 20:34 |
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Kunabomber posted:why are the rich considered only hardworking hey i worked hard to be born rich
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2009 18:03 |
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Gazaville Slugger posted:The only way UHC will get enacted is if Feinstein or Kucinich has the balls to propose it HR 676, Proposed by Conyers, co-sponsored by Kucinich (and a bunch others) From 2005, lol
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2009 20:33 |
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stun runner posted:hehe just gonna post this relevant poll 17% of Americans think Republicans are too liberal?
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2009 21:23 |
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ahahahhhaaaaaaaquote:Republicans argue that greater government involvement in health care will lead to rationing of care and denial of coverage. A government run health care would place a bureaucrat between “you and your doctor,” Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, repeated at least four times during a recent interview on Fox News. STOP WITH THIS BIPARTISAN poo poo THEY ARE JUST GOING TO VOTE NO ON IT ANYWAYS ps something like 85% of current private plans DO cover abortions and this would cover not only the public plan but private plans on the exchange so this would basically eliminate coverage
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2009 00:29 |
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randomnoise posted:If 70 - 80% of americans really do support government run health care, why has no one ever taken any kind of serious steps in mobilizing them to literally terrorize congress into submission? Seriously look at how much coverage the tea party mongoloids got. A full page newspaper ad, maybe even a half, in a few regions could probably fit in all of the major bullet points for single payer in a decent format as well as contact info for the locally relevant political offices. If someone organized a coordinated "bombing" of congress by telling people to zerg the phone lines for their congresspeople and barrage them with email and hard copy letters on a specific day, it would make national news when the lines and servers got swamped and congress was paralyzed. this is happening right now (DFA, dailykos, moveon, etc) and it seems like they have a decent amount of bombing going on but still not enough they're also running ads in wavering dem's districts, which is one of the reasons why Hagan caved
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2009 00:33 |
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cheap sunglasses posted:it's a camper hooked up to the bookmobile's rear bumper "drive-by abortions" i can see the attack ads now
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2009 04:17 |
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quote:It looks like we can chalk up a victory for the good guys. Stocks soared this week, as Congress gave up trying to enact so-called health-care reform — and the massive new taxes to pay for it — until after their August recess. That means it’s dead. death to the investor class, death to capitalists, death to america
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2009 22:03 |
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edit: never mind read further and answered my own question
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2009 00:33 |
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Pat Boone posted:I know there's a word for government-supported corporatism but for the life of me I can't remember it so what's left to do? move to california, assist the push for state single payer and a constitutional convention then just plug your ears when anything concerning federal government is discussed? spend the rest of your life in a failed attempt to elect members of leftist parties? or just cut your losses and get the gently caress out? god, this place sucks so bad.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2009 22:37 |
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california will have the money to enact single payer before the federal goverment has the votes / desire to
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2009 22:41 |
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dividebyzero posted:I'm working on an Emigration from the U.S. effortpost right now, but am at work/on my blackberry. Please do! quote:Suffice to say, get your rear end into an IT or trade skillset pronto, as in before you hit 30. excellent peace out ya'll
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2009 20:33 |
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This afternoon, Jay Rockefeller said that the new proposal to expand Medicaid coverage for those who are 133% to 150% above the federal poverty line was dropped during a meeting of key legislators this morning. “I was sad this morning,” Rockefeller told me and a few other reporters. “We walked in, and it was 133[%] to 140[%], then it’s staying at 133… So we didn’t get anything.” Negotiators are considering limiting consumers to those who would qualify for high-risk insurance pools already set up under the Senate’s health care legislation. This would mean primarily those who have been uninsured for a certain amount of time, have a history of poor health or are unable to get insurance because of a preexisting condition. [Kent] Conrad said that he’d propose having the Medicare buy-in be treated as “a separate pool” that could have negotiated rates, rather than those set by the existing Medicare program. The Medicare “buy-in” for people 55 to 64 would be available until government subsidies start flowing in 2014 to new health insurance markets designed for people who now have trouble getting and keeping affordable coverage.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2009 02:37 |
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quote:"I've told them that I can't support a trigger--no, actually, to be more explicit: If they say that it's unlikely to be [pulled] then it's unnecessary," Lieberman said. "It's an irritant. And I keep saying to my colleagues: the underlying bill, that I would say 60 of us in the caucus support, that is, the parts that we support in the underlying bill, are so full of progress--let's get that done, and stop trying to squeeze in things that some of us, respectfully, just won't accept." lieberman perhaps the irritant here is u
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2009 22:17 |
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i'm actually kind of hopeful that if lieberman, snowe, baucus, lincoln, landreau, etc all dig in that Reid will just say gently caress it and try reconciliation a bill that only needs 51 votes, provided they have the way to pull it off, is going to be a hell of a lot better
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2009 22:35 |
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dta now and forever
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2009 02:48 |
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randomnoise posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH5ixmT83JE
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2009 02:56 |
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quote:Mr. Reid’s amendment also includes a substantial increase in federal contributions to Nebraska’s costs of providing Medicaid coverage to the poor. hahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2009 17:38 |
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‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.— ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to— ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual. [p. 5]
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2009 20:32 |
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Prince of Dicks posted:i want news in pictures and one snetence per story. come on free market twitter dot com
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2009 01:08 |
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what sucks is that even if we were to be able to add democrats most places that are flippable would only be flipped by a bullshit centrist dem. all the states that can elect a progressive already have a progressive in the senate with the exception of maybe maine?
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2009 01:10 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 05:22 |
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evilweasel posted:connecticut gently caress I was counting joribaman as a dem in my mind when I wrote that forgot about NH as well
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2009 02:09 |