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grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

KozmoNaut posted:

The "fancy power cable brigade" has gone into a self-sustaining cycle of bullshit posts, describing the changes power cables made to their systems as "monumental", "earth-shattering" and "blew me off my chair". One of them even said that the changes were similarly massive as changing interconnect cables, I guess I can only agree with him on that :v:

I've asked them to compare these effects and rate them compared to something like moving a speaker 1cm sideways or moving their heads while listening to music. If the above-mentioned changes are that massive to them, the phase and time delay changes from moving about slightly while listening must be absolutely galactic in magnitude.

You just can't reason with audiophiles, unfortunately.

However, you can make fun of them and should find a way to leech money off of them because why not at this point.

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grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Whelp, this is fuckin' weird:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/726016/bassaware-a-new-bass-augmentation-device-for-headphones-that-delivers-true-visceral-response

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Sub-20hz tones can affect the middle ear if played loud enough, and that can cause nausea for some people.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

88h88 posted:

True but that thing is so loving tiny there's no way it's capable of outputting frequencies that low. It's a little box with an LED on it, pure audiophile grade toss that doesn't do anything. None of the poo poo on that market does.

I know, just commenting on the whole sub-20hz thing.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

88h88 posted:

I know dude, I just wanted to talk about the box of nothing and yours seemed like a good bit to quote. To create pulses or waves under 20hz requires a bit more firepower than will ever be in that box is all I'm saying. :)

I wonder what's actually inside? I'm guessing an LED, a computer buzzer and a cardboard middle finger.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

KozmoNaut posted:

It actually has a handful of components, at least $10 worth including the PCB.




Doesn't look like I was that far off.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Given that 95%+ of audiophile arguments fall in to the category of "I spent more money so I like it more" I doubt anyone seriously considering purchasing that thing care.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Flipperwaldt posted:

I've found that too much not enough whisky increases jitter.

:colbert:

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
If they can actually sell this poo poo to audiophiles and make money doing it, they're absolutely cool by me. Hell, I might even think them heroes.


KillHour posted:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's good for "Breaking FCC regulations." Was I close?

Edit: That antenna isn't nearly long enough to generate a 7.83Hz wave. Some back-of-the-napkin math is giving me a wavelength of ~38,000 KM.

Double Edit: I reported them to the FCC. :allears:

Though yes, this is pretty funny

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

strtj posted:

Stereophile reviews a setup at a high-end audio show where the cost of the power cables alone is more than double that of the main speakers:

http://www.stereophile.com/content/rmaf-2014-another-class-entirely

Aww, it can't be that...

quote:

Cables: Transparent, Nordost
Transparent Reference XL Digital Cables ($10,885/3 pieces)
Transparent Opus MM2 Audio Cables ($108,630/4 pairs)
Transparent Reference XL Audio cables ($38,365/3 pairs)
Nordost Odin and Valhalla I Power Cables & Distribution ($69,400/10 pieces)

:stonk:

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

BANME.sh posted:

The funny thing about this is that since tapes are analog, they automatically get higher respect than MP3s among a large swath of audiophiles. Never mind the fact that cassette tapes have no more than 6 or 7 bits worth of "resolution" in them on a good day, utilizing the best playback equipment. If you actually tried to carry out this troll, there's a good chance the dealer wouldn't even bat an eye.

Surfin' Bird or GTFO

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Audiot posted:



Behold! For those of us stuck in the past using physical media Furutech has come to our rescue. You can throw out your old and lovely SK-II and order the new and improved SK-III. Now with 10% more Corona discharge fibers! This piece you will remove 300-500v of Frictional Static Discharge on CD's! I have no idea what any of this means, but if it's good enough for the Japanese police force, then it's got to be amazing and not bull poo poo at all.

http://www.furutech.com/2014/08/06/9773/

Somebody overestimated the makeup brush market this quarter

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

hellfaucet posted:

I WANT SICK SOUNDING poo poo TRANSMITTING VIA WI-FI IN MY loving HOUSE, BRO.

Give me solutions instead of being a dick. I'm here because you know more than me.

Try clicking on the link you quoted

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

The Devil Tesla posted:

Anyone post this yet?



I keep thinking it says "porno" and I get unreasonably interested.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

I'm pretty sure Dr. Who fought these in one season.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

jhcain posted:

Hmm. I guess this will be amusing:



You make these threads worthwhile.

Just wanted you to know that.

Can I interest you in a bridge? Or perhaps a piece of prime real estate on the moon?

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

jhcain posted:

Nope, not. What is it, that makes me a fool? My setup is not anywhere near the cost of the gear you folks seem to mock. You're not convincing me, is all - just as I can't convince you otherwise, apparently. An impasse!

You've spent a ton of money chasing audiophile bullshit and we're making fun of you for it. Mystery solved.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

breaks posted:

So he could hang some heavy curtains, or pay an artist to hussy up some acoustic foam somehow. Get some custom built corner traps that match his room and are unobtrusive. If he finds the pono comparable to the dac2/squeezebox/special power supply thing then sell the latter to fund the custom treatments and end up with better sound. It is easy to make things look nice by spending money.

Or get his hearing checked

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Palladium posted:

If you looking for useful info or reviews other than on cheapo gear on Head-Fi, you are at the wrong place.

Joker's review threads are awesome.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Conclusion: Get a Clip or Fiio X1

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Hey, I definitely use my phone for listening, but there is still a niche for standalone players.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
If somebody could figure out a way to sue audiophile companies for false advertising 90%+ of them would be out of business in a week.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Zorak of Michigan posted:

That ensures that the cables haven't burned in to match the components! You can't possibly get the best aspect out of a system without matching and burning in the cables.

I met someone IRL last week who actually believes this. It should be legal to slap audiophiles when they start spouting crap.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

flosofl posted:

I got 4 of 5. I'm curious as to whether someone can actually "miss" all 5 or if they're cynically giving out 5s and 4s. And if they *do* actually accurately report if someone misses all 5 does it say something like, "Begone pleb! Stick to your lovely MP3s and cheap box wine."

I'm pretty sure it's just marketing schtick to get people to sign up for free trials.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

BigFactory posted:

I mean the idea that a student especially can't gain insight into their field by studying a complementary skill or technique is really strange to me. If nothing else, doesn't having some deeper understanding of what the great photographers of the past had to do for their craft have some value?. Is it as valuable as learning photoshop in 2015, I'm not sure. Probably not, but education is a hard thing to define in absolute terms like that. I think they both have value, but as I've said before, feel free to disagree, and if you have to be angry in your disagreement I guess I can't stop you guys!

You're a bloody loving moron crapping all over the thread with a pointless sidetrack. Please stop.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Quoted from the computer build megathread

Woolie Wool posted:

I was going to post an argument, but you know what, I'm not even going to bother engaging with someone who insists that an absolute bargain basement integrated unit similar to the very cheapest thing Schiit makes (the Fulla, which is just like the E10k and priced at $79) with a cheap 3.5mm jack is somehow better than a dedicated DAC three rungs up the food chain with RCA outputs. I shouldn't have even mentioned what sound hardware I was using because goons get all crazy about anything above the absolute cheapest poo poo available with anything that's not reducible to pure numbers of gigabytes, gigahertz, and gigaflops.

$3 interconnects are good enough I read something about James Randi and cables third hand once checkmate audiophools :smug:

why would you want a tube amp solid state is better here look at this line graph :smug:

I honestly can't tell if this guy is being serious.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

RoadCrewWorker posted:

This reads so much like a clumsy parody written by a teen, down to the yahoo.com email address, my first impulse is to tell the guy to tone the joke down more than a bit.

Kinda hard to sympathize with the marks ignoring all the red flags.

Isn't this pretty much how Machina Dynamica started? A 100% parody website that people just started buying poo poo from?

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Don Lapre posted:

Why isn't he using a first gen PS1 for his cd audio playback

Pfft, that's for his stereo setup, not his receiver.


Also, he probably has it covered in three feet of caulking.


Why is it so difficult to tell the difference between shills, people making jokes and True BelieversTM? I read one and a half pages of that thread and I'm already thinking "Nuclear sterilization, yes, that could work."

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Palladium posted:

In PC hardware analogy, a Behringer UCA202 DAC would be akin to Nvidia selling a GTX Titan X SLI for the price of a 8GB USB flashdrive which will be shunned by our game-o-philes who would rather be discussing to death about whether their $10,000 VGA cables makes any difference to the FPS on their lovely 1024x768 TN LCD screens when playing Doom 1.


They improve the emotional depth of the game, duh.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

baka kaba posted:

Either that or they're intentionally using cheap poo poo so you know you're paying all that money for tonez tech. Mmm utilitarian and great value! No need to resort to marketing gimmicks when your core product works so well - just honest engineers charging what it costs to build a quality system, no more no less

"An entire cargo ship full of blow" is the most important part of the R+D process.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
People still take WhatHiFi "reviews" seriously?

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Khablam posted:

That line between parody and genuine advertising seems to have completely slipped away



"Because I am like, so high, man you don't even understand. Like, so high. Oh poo poo I got the munchies gotta go"

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Khablam posted:

You have it all wrong; when it's so good you can't even measure the difference, that's when you know you have golden ears.

Having golden ears isn't all it's cracked up to be. They're very heavy and junkies keep trying to rip them off my head.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
I use a set of Monsoon MM-1000s that I bought 12 years ago for $100 on clearance.

The control puck is dead and the power supply is duct taped together but they still sound phenomenal.

Too bad planar magnetic speakers are so directional.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Or the vendor knows that designing a basic, generally competent amp and adding tubes and blinky lights will lead to sales regardless of how bad it sounds.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Only extremely stupid people think tube amps are anything more than a gimmick.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Woolie Wool posted:

Well some people actually buy 20-year-old V8 Ferraris. A lightly used Corvette will be much cheaper, faster, safer, probably handle better, has some actual cargo room, and the gas mileage is much better, but many people, given the choice between the keys to a C6 Corvette and a Ferrari F355, are going to take the Ferrari. Sometimes the sensible choice is just boring, and tubes are cool. I personally don't give much of a gently caress about my amp's measurements, I know they're worse than the solid-state models from the same manufacturer and I don't care. I didn't get it because I wanted to have objectively the best amp, it's a real live tube amp that actually amps with tubes for less than $400, and it's really cool seeing the heaters come on and in replacing the worn out input tubes with ECC88s that were made before most of the people on SA were even born. Do they sound better than the 6N1Ps sounded when they were new? Who the gently caress cares, how many things do you have that were made in 1965?

So your reasoning basically boils down to "it's old and it has pretty lights on it so I don't care if the amp is objectively a piece of poo poo".

I think I understand it now - audiophiles are basically cats. Doesn't matter if the equipment is garbage as long as it looks pretty (and is expensive).

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Or replace the Ferrari with a Camaro Z that's been at the bottom of a lake for 15 years.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

HFX posted:

As compared to AM radios in general? Did you replace the caps? How are the speakers in the cabinet?

Does it improve the emotional response of the music? What about GRIP? Have you tried brilliant pebbles?

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grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Panty Saluter posted:



crosspostin'

That's cheating. Those cables are clearly anacondas.

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