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kuffs posted:Next up: Audiophile grade SATA cables! Seriously, why are these people so loving obtuse and simply don't want to understand binary encoding systems and transmission? Hogscraper posted:The higher sample rate matters less than the bit depth in my opinion. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Aug 19, 2010 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:21 |
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Kinda related to the post above, but not to audio... Years back when I worked at a computer parts wholesale, they had a daughter company that built computers. The PATA cables were neatly folded and zipped to the case. Folded kinda like they're being delivered in bulk too. One day I had to help out tech support, I received a call from an electrical engineering student making a fuzz about these folds. At first I thought it was a prank, but he kept going too long at it and even dared me to follow up with his professor about it. Silly people.qirex posted:Because they're coming from a world where dumbass audiophile tweaks were accepted because of the "mystery" of analog audio. The people involved are either trying to sell/promote useless poo poo or they want to be lied to about it because the very thought that a 50 cent monoprice cable is just as good is orthogonal to their entire way of thinking. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Aug 20, 2010 |
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oversteer posted:Sciency type paper refers to cables giving markedly different results Also, if you were to do a reverse FFT of the values represented in these graph, the result would be the booming voice of god having a poo poo fit, so loud, it'd be breaking earth in half.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2011 03:42 |
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Neurophonic posted:http://www.bmicable.com/oceanic_statement And the logic behind it. Even if it is made of magic pixie dust with superconducting properties, I like how every audiophile falling for that poo poo kinda ignores the tens to hundreds of kilometers of power lines, converters, distribution stations and mundane copper hook-up to their houses.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2011 12:46 |
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Gromit posted:You mean you don't have your own Hyperion Nuclear Battery or Toshiba 4-S reactor in the shed generating power for your house?
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2011 17:09 |
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Opensourcepirate posted:You're absolutely right that these cables are way overkill for most applications, but I think that the prices charged are reasonable given the quality of the materials and the cost of American supply and labor, as opposed to the price of Chinese manufactured cables from monoprice and other websites.
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# ¿ May 4, 2011 11:05 |
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I flew over it, and I didn't see any tables or numbers. Much of a study this is.
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# ¿ May 17, 2011 15:52 |
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Sound waves bouncing off things between you and your speakers. Like say, a tile floor right in front of your speakers.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2011 13:02 |
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How do you deal with the cosmic background radiation, that the atmosphere isn't filtering anymore?
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2011 12:33 |
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The photons still might dent the vinyl molecules.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2011 18:12 |
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Socket Ryanist posted:1. There's no such thing as "a sufficient rate to prevent aliasing" because any given analog signal has frequency content all the way up the spectrum... sure most of the stuff way up there is really quiet and just noise anyway, but there's something there.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2011 01:28 |
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Socket Ryanist posted:Luckily it's not what the waves look like that we're interested in.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2011 09:40 |
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Out of boredom, I was googling for my company, who produces cables. I stumbled onto posts of the head-fi forum. There's a lot of poo poo going on, but this one took the cake for now (I guess I should be proud, tho):quote:A little more listening in, in my bedroom system and main system. Definitely a nice cord! Not just for the money, but overall. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Nov 7, 2011 |
# ¿ Nov 7, 2011 21:03 |
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longview posted:Does your cable have stripes or stickers on them? If not that's probably it.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2011 06:48 |
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On a cable reel maybe.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2011 17:17 |
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Waldo P Barnstormer posted:Read the quote below:
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2011 22:43 |
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Since their high-tech AC power cables are supposedly shielded like gently caress, how do they explain that rice paper having any effect at all? These people are so gullible.
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2011 16:37 |
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At some point, you might start getting dragged into their rabbit hole. If you're confronted with so much bullshit, the lesser bullshit may start to seem plausible to you.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2011 16:39 |
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Exists already. Hydrogen Audio forums. It's kinda annoying, too. Even if you're just expressing a subjective preference over something non-technical, there's still always someone going "Auauagh! RULE 8!!!" or whatever number it is.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2012 04:22 |
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100 watts over RJ45 contacts and/or wires? Yea, no.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2012 20:44 |
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There's a PoE standard that allows up to 51W over all four pairs. And that's really pushing it in my opinion. Double of that? In DC? No way. And probably not a typo, since driving a TV is mentioned as scenario.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2012 21:42 |
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That's an instant 8khz lowpass filter with 12dB rollover RIGHT THERE!
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2012 01:44 |
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In the end, it's still just stupid poo poo. Just like these magical power cords, that oh so improve the sound. I like how its users completely disregard the wiring of their house and that, that leads from the main hub to their house. Gold plating serves poo poo, if the wiring and solder points of all the devices in the chain aren't made of pixie dust.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2012 14:03 |
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Nah, I mean from the sound quality perspective. Audiophiles wouldn't care about anti-corrosive properties, because they're probably the firm belief that things like these wear out and have to be replaced every year.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2012 15:02 |
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Nah, but if someone was up for the effort, they could bullshit people on Head-Fi with that thing. Create some huge wire construct and pretend with fake RMAA graphs or spectrums that it works. An ideal lowpass filter with 10 blocks and 1.5m of wire.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2012 15:13 |
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jonathan posted:Here's some audiophile poo poo. I almost didn't buy this condo that I just moved into because the walls are painted a colour, not a shade. I didn't want to have to recalibrate my TVs due to the non-neutral colour scheme.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2012 05:03 |
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Someone's selling an atomic clock as clock reference for your studio gear. "With the Atomic, I'd say there was a 20% improvement which for me is mind-blowing. The image was wider, more solid and the vocal appeared to project towards me!" "I noticed an immediate change in my soundspace the minute I heard the 10M plugged into my OCX-V. The stereo spread out, the edges were more clear, and the center seemed to come forward." (Quotes from industry professionals. I hope they're fake, because if not, ) http://www.vintageking.com/Antelope-Audio-Isochrone-10M
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2012 16:19 |
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Homeopathic levels of improvement in jitter doesn't change the sound of a production. Did you actually read the quotes? --edit: gently caress, I fell for it.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2012 17:19 |
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Considering they're doing stuff like putting them in a freezer before playing them, or demagnetizing them, they're probably putting them under a scanning tunneling microscope first.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2012 15:59 |
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Because some inertia and gravity based degrading playback medium is the poster-child of accuracy. I'll never understand these people.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2012 16:18 |
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It's not like most devices don't have capacitor circuitry to smooth out the current, eh, eh?
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2012 16:50 |
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Vinyls are goddamn hilarious. Disregarding all the inaccuracies that are introduced while manufacturing them (like the master not being 100% clean when pressing the vinyl, density fluctuations in the vinyl platter), the playback is another tier of stupid. You're dealing with a gravity based groove sensing. It all depends on the flexibility of the needle and the pressure of the head, both influencing the inertia and thus the actual read out of the groove. The needle might not be falling into the hole by following the groove, but by using rises as a ramp. Then, because the needle might be jumping around like nuts, the low frequencies are attentuanted to poo poo while high frequencies are raised (see RIAA equalization, and the low frequencies, because they are what make the whole arm jump). That's why you need a preamp, if it's not built-in, to revert this. Considering that audiophiles seem to be all about the most accurate reproduction of somebody's works, vinyl is by definition the worst contemporary transport medium ever.KozmoNaut posted:If you generate a 20kHz perfectly analog sine wave, record it digitally in 44.1kHz 16bit CD-quality and then play both that and the original analog 20kHz source back into a good oscilloscope, you WILL NOT be able to tell the difference between the original analog-generated sine wave and the digital recording. There is NO DIFFERENCE. --edit: That said, sampling a 20khz sine wave at 44khz will result in a whacky digital sampling, that relies on the DAC doing its job 100% correctly (which they don't). Because you won't be capturing the peaks of each undulation. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 11:58 on May 13, 2012 |
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ShamrockShake posted:I'm having trouble actually parsing this sentence, but is that a site administrator banishing all talk of hard scientific methods? Do audiophiles have to resort to wildly attacking simple protocols to defend their fragile world? Amazing. I'm terribly happy that I'll never be an audiophile. And it doesn't even need blind tests, it just needs some common sense (which they obviously lack). I mean, I've posted about this before, but on Head-Fi there was a huge discussion about how super loving great sounding a power cord is, that's manufactured in my company. Jesus gently caress, I work in manufacturing and know the whole production process, and it shows that they have no loving clue about how their magic devices are actually manufactured. And how crude it actually is. I was tempted to take pictures of all machinery used for said product and try to tank the thread, just to see how they're going to explain these away. But that would get me into deep poo poo for industrial espionage. They're generally in denial, anyway, because another company is still in good faith with them, after this happened to one of their products: quote:Yes, a poster on the Head-Fi forums had his fancy-pants power cable disemboweled by his cat, only to discover very little of value inside. Once ripped open, all he found was "a couple of bucks worth of 14 AWG PVC insulated bulk wire (VD's "LiniPur" conductors) and some ferrite powder, (VD's "5 dielectric layers") shoved into some heavy braided-wall PVC tubing to make it appear thick and meaty, and put together with dirt cheap connectors and DIY build quality." Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 11:29 on May 14, 2012 |
# ¿ May 14, 2012 11:20 |
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If Weekend Web taught me one thing, it's that there's A LOT of REALLY loving STUPID PEOPLE out there on the Internet.
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# ¿ May 14, 2012 13:59 |
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Throw this in for good measure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive
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# ¿ May 14, 2012 20:08 |
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I'm not quite sure if you guys are serious.
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# ¿ May 30, 2012 13:30 |
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How the gently caress does single phase AC polarity matter at all?! --edit: Actually "polarity" since there's no actual polarity. --edit: vvvv Must be some voodoo rectifier then. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 15:52 on May 30, 2012 |
# ¿ May 30, 2012 15:33 |
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You don't ground a metal chassis to the neutral lead. If you need grounding, you design your appliance around the assumption that there's a dedicated ground lead. If you don't, you make sure your circuitry is insulated from the chassis. Also, there are quite a few countries in the world that transport current in triple phase AC to homes (one phase acts as L1 and one as N, you connect the phases as you like to balance the load), and they're not third world countries. This is reason alone why this is insane design, because you're in constant danger of shorting two phases, or grounding one of these with your feet. Either way, this is a safety issue, and not really the point to begin with. Single phase AC doesn't have any sort of polarity in the sense of direction of constant flow, like DC current. Actual AC devices are designed with that in mind (essentially just electric motors). Virtually any other appliance works with DC, and a rectifier doesn't care where the main and neutral leads are. The diodes in the circuitry make sure of that. (And then again, there's that triple phase AC to one's home.) Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 22:23 on May 30, 2012 |
# ¿ May 30, 2012 22:18 |
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I don't know. I have them, too, and they're useless, because I have three phase AC to my house.
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# ¿ May 30, 2012 22:28 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:21 |
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I had a bunch of iPods (regular and touch) in the past. Their output is noisy as gently caress due to cramped circuitry, Wolfson DAC or not.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2012 04:28 |