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Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Congrats, SWATJester.

I have been somewhat following this thread and I think I may register for the exam.

Do you think I should register for the Feb. exam? I am leaning towards waiting for the next one so that I can better prepare, and because whatever I end up doing for my summer internship/fellowship will likely be very useful in the hiring process.

How long do you have to wait to retake the exam if you fail?

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Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


harperdc posted:

Just take it. There's little that can really be done to prepare it's not like the GRE, GMAT or other standardized tests as much of it is things that should be common knowledge and the variety of questions is pretty wide. Plus there's no guarantee you'd get asked to do the Personal Narratives afterwards, so all you're doing if you're interested is wasting time. Plus, there's no better preparation for next time than having done it once.

As well, the hiring process sounds incredibly drawn out. What's the worst that could happen? Having to make a decision after getting through the exam, PNQs, and Oral Assessment? Better to have the decision than "what could have been."

I found the answer to my own question, per State "the test may be taken only once per eleven-month period". The main reason I'm considering waiting is that I am in my first year at an MBA program. I think if I take the exam in the summer or at the beginning of my second year I will have a higher chance of passing the PNQ and OA if I advance to those sections. Also the OA for the Feb dates is "Summer 2011" and I may be overseas depending on what summer internship I get.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


SWATJester posted:

I have big news. Kind of.

Tease...

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


zzman posted:

Why, is there some meaning to it I'm not aware of? It is just a random thing I picked years ago on another forum and use again for sake of simplicity.

He was referring to his own username which he just changed

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Wait, do the IT mafia dislike ipads? I was going to take my ipad to my summer internship rather than my laptop.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Gotcha. I wasn't planning on using either for work stuff obviously, but was hoping to at least have them in the office for mp3s or to use on lunch break, etc. I know some people I can ask.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Homie S posted:

I think he might be referring to the location more than anything. Cause yea iPad for when you're off and want to just relax and surf is perfect.

Gotcha. It's the location we discussed via PM a few months back if you remember.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


ATI Jesus posted:

iPads violate FISMA. You will never be permitted to place government data on it. They do not have any sort of NIST approved encryption, and they are an untested piece of network hardware that requires a piece of software that will never be seen on OpenNet due to its numerous security issues (iTunes).

USAID is using them in direct violation of the law.

Sounds reasonable. Just so we're clear, I specified in my next post that I didn't intend to use it for work things, but for personal stuff.

I would also be interested in a DC-area FS-goon-meet.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Awesome.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Hope you guys have fun at the DC meet, I'm OCONUS for my internship. Was really hoping to meet some of you.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


FYI a hiring process for diplomatic couriers just opened if anyone is interested in that.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Yeah, good luck to you guys. Those of us in the application process are extra boned. At this point I'm just going through the motions and not expecting anything to come from it.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Can't believe I have less than a month before the FSOT. Haven't had much time to prep. Anyone have any good recommendation for biographies or documentaries on Netflix Instant Watch? Might be a good way to take study breaks, rather than watching crappy TV.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


hitension posted:

pamchenko - Would a (paid) internship in DC in Spring in a field that I am very, very interested in be worth it if it means either taking a lot of summer classes or postponing my graduation a semester?

I already delayed one year to do extra research/study abroad/transfer to university from CC. I just want to build more connections at my university so I can have my research advisor set up for senior year. Unfortunately I go to school in Boston, not DC. But this opportunity seems so tempting, do you feel your internship was worth it?

e: I realize this is horribly subjective and it's only a choice I can make. But do you feel like you gained skills that would be useful in your career? Was the work stimulating? Do employers seem impressed? etc.

Did you get a SCEP slot? Congrats. The bureau I want to work for unfortunately doesn't have any SCEP slots open at the moment. I was a summer intern (unpaid) this summer so I can't speak to the resume-enhancment aspect yet, I'll find out soon. If you're an undergrad it might be worth it. I'm in grad school and I found the duties of my particular internship to be a little underwhelming.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Hey Greencard,

Every agency has their own suitability requirements in addition to clearance requirements. But you won't know unless you apply. For less serious offenses, time is seen as a healing factor.

This site has some clearance adjudication appeal decisions that might help you get a sense of what they're looking for.

http://www.dod.gov/dodgc/doha/isp.html

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Well I took the FSOT this week for the first time. Other than the first section I thought it was pretty easy. I think I didn't give myself enough credit in the bio section though.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


gently caress yeah. 174.85 on the MC and a 10 on the essay. Time to start my PNQs.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Thanks man. We still going to the range with Whip?

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Also make sure to check your spam filters.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Thanks for the advice Dameius and nm. Are there any issues with using stories for the PNQs that you also may want to use for the OA? (ie do the OA guys have your PNQs at hand or are they totally separate processes?)

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Yeah I have a feeling I screwed the pooch on the PNQs. Despite being warned in this very thread I waited too long to start them. They're not nearly polished enough.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Shageletic posted:

I've got a question of my own. I submitted my PN's in the middle of November. When should I be expecting word back to see if I got into the oral assesment?

Pretty sure the letter we got that said we passed the written exam said mid-January.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Diplomaticus posted:

Which also means you can have separate candidacies in separate cones.

I also understand you can have one generalist and one specialist candidacy at the same time but if you accept a COE and/or go on a register, the other is terminated, is that correct?

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


TCD posted:

Edit: Also, what the poo poo, come on QEP process.

Seriously. I dreamed last night that I passed the QEP. Not cool when I woke up and realized it hadn't happened.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


^^^ Agreed!

Shageletic posted:

Do they just trickle out the results over a couple of weeks or something?

I assume the OMS QEP is a separate process since it's a specialist role.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


vegaji posted:

Awesome, thank you. I went through and read some of the approvals/denials and got a bit nervous, but I know that I'm just overthinking this. That said, anyone here have experience with internships? I'm sure they vary widely between the bureaus, but I don't have a solid grasp on how federal jobs work and how useful internships are for future applications.

Internships vary like crazy depending on not only bureau but what office you end up in.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Really sorry that you guys didn't make it! QEP is so fuckin' weird. I was prepped for the worst after seeing the responses here because I feel several of you are more qualified/as qualified as me, but I made it through. Hopefully more goons will also. This was a Hail Mary for me, I guess I need to start prepping for the OA now.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


It's not true for entry and mid level jobs either. I'm in grad school and to a person every single classmate of mine has been horrified when I've told them the starting salary range I'm looking at for federal jobs.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


How well written does this drat statement of interest for the FSOA have to be?

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Eonwe - the QEP and the FSOA are the two biggest weeding out phases. This last phase that I went through, IIRC 27k took the FSOT, don't know how many passed, of those 9k were eliminated in QEP, and the pass rate at FSOA is historically around 30%.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Vasudus, unless they've changed it recently, they don't email, they call you.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


If the OP is still being maintained I guess you can add me as "awaiting clearances".

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


TCD posted:


Here in Brazil, it's all about Cachaca in Caipirinhas and these are the best drinks on earth.

the ones I had must not have been well made then, I thought they were nothing special.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


TCD posted:

Were you in Brazil?

The ones I had in DC weren't the best.

I was in Sao Paolo. The foreigner thing may explain it. Compared to the ones I had, I would take a good authentic mojito instead.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Congrats mtreecorner!

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Diplomaticus posted:

If you want to be CS, you really really really should consider trying to get in as a PMF.

Yeah. 15 people from my grad program (including me) applied to PMF this year. One got to the finalist stage. And he didn't take it. Dick.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Macunaima posted:

My fourth OA is on Friday, in DC. Obviously I know what to expect from experience. I've never studied for the OA beyond familiarizing myself with the dimensions and general format - any suggestions for reading on the flight out?

I didn't prepare for mine at all other than a few mock behavioral interviews with friends and reviewing the dimensions the day before. Read something that will help you relax or focus, depending on your personality... Good luck.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


I think I got very, very lucky in my group for the group portion of the assessment. We really rocked it. I personally felt that was the hardest part (because you can't prep for it) and also the part that I had the least control over.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


I actually found CM to be straightforward and finished with plenty of time for editing. I guess everyone experiences it differently!

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Tyro
Nov 10, 2009


Don't worry, I filled out my personal statement the night before too. Best of luck. I'm pretty sure there's a way to get at the Eqip through either OPM or DS if you do need to print an archival copy on site.

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