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Any idea if what you fill out under "Special Skills" on the Registration for the FSOT has any bearing on anything?
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2009 20:14 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 13:44 |
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After doing all kinds of research into what life has in store for me (domestic policy work, grad school, law school, campaign work, or mcdonald's) I've basically decided this is what I want to do. I applied to take the FSOT the other day and should be hearing back in January. I know getting selected as an FSO (Political) is extremely competitive, but I was wondering if someone could tell me in what ways it is competitive. Does it rely a lot on education, GPA, test scores, etc? Does it rely on past experience? I have never been out of the country and my GPA is weak. I am not going to Grad School as far as I can tell. I don't speak a foreign language (Spanish a tad). I really want to work in sub-saharan Africa. Maybe Uganda or Rwanda, etc. Can someone give me any direction on my chances? I've thought about trying to hook up with some NGOs and work in Africa with them for a few years and reapplying if I don't make it. Will this drastically improve my chances? I am stressed out.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2009 23:37 |
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I'm obviously not putting all my eggs in the FSO basket. I am just trying to figure out what to do and I've decided that State is my #1 priority - as in I would drop everything else if I got hired. I'm also applying to the Peace Corps' Masters International program to try and get my Masters and get a couple years of international experience as well in case I don't get in to state so that my app looks better next time around.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2009 03:38 |
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That always baffled me because it's a government org. I knew it was sometimes a barrier to intelligence work, but surely it doesn't effect the clearances for State work, does it?
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2009 05:54 |
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The stressed out part comes mostly from Finals Week after taking 18 credit hours this semester.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2009 07:12 |
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Ah ok that makes sense. I kind of gave my up fascination with the intelligence community after I grew out of Tom Clancy in Grade 8, but it's not something I've completely rejecting. We'll see, I guess.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2009 10:16 |
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Omits-Bagels posted:I think it is 5 years after end of PC service. Yea I just looked into it and according to the Peace Corps Thread, if you've worked in intelligence fields you're banned from the Peace Corps but not necessarily the other way around.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2009 20:36 |
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So when we're talking about visible tattoos, are we talking visible in a suit or visible in a bathing suit?
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2009 09:52 |
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Just got my e-mail saying I've been approved to take the FSOT. poo poo just got real.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2010 22:16 |
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Barracuda Bang! posted:Is that for the generalist position? If you're asking me, yes. I got the e-mail this afternoon so I would assume anyone who applied should be getting theirs soon.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2010 02:42 |
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TCD posted:If you're in Kigali (or somewhere similar in Africa) I'd really love to talk to you via PM or something similar if possible.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2010 23:41 |
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Taking the FSOT on Monday, but due to a scheduling conflict I am busy all weekend. Any tips on how/what to cram on/last minute study tips? I assume I could probably reschedule the test but my schedule is packed. Wish me luck!
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2010 00:27 |
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TCD posted:Kramerbooks is awesome. I loved it there. Did you get my reply to your PM?
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2010 23:03 |
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I am preparing for the FSOT now. I was wondering what your background was? (re: QEP)
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2010 00:51 |
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Pretty nervous about this FSOT Monday. I think I can pass the FSOT but I doubt I will get past the QEP. I have basically no international experience but I am just trying to get experience with the process and hoping to somehow slip through the cracks. I think at this point I would definitely accept any cone offer I got. I applied for political but I think this job would be quite a bit of fun no matter the details.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2010 07:34 |
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Skandiaavity posted:Hey, cool! We're taking it on the same day! Afternoon or Evening? Afternoon. Also: need to study, need to study.. Question: It seems to me that you get a certain offer for a certain cone based on your performance. That is, you may apply for political cone and they may only offer Management or Consular. It's also been said that it is very hard or nearly impossible to switch cones once you're in. If cone offer was a deal breaker* (for instance, if a candidate was not interested in being a consular officer but extremely interested in something else) would it be better for them to reject the offer and try again for a higher score? Or is a rejection basically killing your chances of ever getting reoffered? *I don't care. I want to go political but would probably live with another cone just for the sake of the job and lifestyle.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2010 21:54 |
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Thanks for the tips. I applied for political as it's what I want to do. I was just confused by all the different talk about getting offers. I assume it doesn't matter what I wear to this test, right?
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2010 17:04 |
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Miss Fats posted:I assume it doesn't matter what I wear to this FSOT, right? I ask because it starts in 2 hours and I would rather study than change. I assume it's just some test center worker who doesn't care that I'm wearing sweatpants and a tshirt.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2010 18:56 |
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xanthig posted:doesn't matter a bit. Your assumption is correct. I am testing at the "Moberly Area Community College Career Center, ACT, Room C-2." Sweatpants it is.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2010 20:03 |
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Finished the FSOT earlier today. I'm not sure what's covered on the NDA but I figured you guys could let me know (those who do know) if you have questions and I'll answer with your ok. I was pretty comfortable with the job knowledge and English questions. I am also fairly confident in my essay. The biographical part I have no read on. I think I did well but who knows. Here's to you, Last-Minute-Cramming.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2010 04:10 |
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Pompous Rhombus posted:I honestly didn't expect to make it, but I'd be lying if I said a tiny part of me wasn't really, really hoping. I'll just look at it as saving the cost of a round trip plane ticket to DC and spending a couple of nights on a friends couch This is me. I am basically going through the process now to familiarize myself with it. I don't think I have much chance making it past QEP (if my results come in high enough) but I am doing it because a) hopefully I slip through the cracks on personality, charm, or dumb luck and b) to familiarize myself for the next few years as I try again.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2010 03:34 |
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It's about 3 weeks since I took the FSOT (and many others here). Scores should be coming in soon hopefully.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2010 21:35 |
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This is neat and tangentially related to the current discussion (MSGs).quote:Marine saves injured man after hippo attack http://www.marines.mil/unit/hqmc/Pages/Marinesavesinjuredmanafterhippoattack.aspx
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2010 20:44 |
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Last stat I heard said that Hippos killed more humans every year than any other animal. Hippos coincidentally are one of my favorite animals.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2010 00:27 |
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I also came here to post that I passed. Did we all pass? In my letter it gives a link to launch the PN submission form. I just wanted to check here: This submission form isn't time sensitive right? I want to get the questions but I don't want to open it and have it say "You now have 24 hours to submit your answers." or something. JerkyBunion fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Mar 24, 2010 |
# ¿ Mar 24, 2010 20:09 |
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I was 99% sure but didn't want to risk that 1%. Thanks.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2010 23:02 |
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Anyone have any detailed post for advice on writing personal narratives?
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2010 19:38 |
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I had a quick question about the Foreign Service Officers in USAID if anyone is familiar. What is the hiring process like for USAID? From what I've read it's like getting hired for a regular job - respond to a job posting. In your opinion, is it more competitive, less competitive, or about the same as getting hired for State's foreign service positions? Once hired, what is the training/career path like? In general, how are USAID FSOs perceived by the DoS FSOs? Vice versa? I'm reading Career Diplomacy by Kopp and Gillespie to get ideas for the PNs and prepare for the FSOA and while I knew other agencies had FSOs I didn't realize the management was so departmentalized.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2010 03:12 |
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I applied for POL.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2010 18:52 |
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Good luck. Report back. I'm still coming up with ideas for the PN. Is it ok to discuss PN material here?
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2010 18:45 |
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I heard that in the past you would get a cost of living adjustment for DC assignments (among other places). For instance, you would get a 17% COL bump so while to a lay person a hardship bonus of 15% may sound great it's actually a cut in your salary. I also heard that the AFSA was lobbying to get the DC COL bonus to be standard (or at least bottom floor). Confirm/deny? (I'm not worrying about any of this, I am just curious). I'm also wondering how thoroughly the background investigation goes into online presence. E.g. would they want to know which forums I post on? Would they want to read my posts in this thread? I don't know if it's happening currently but I could see it happening in the future. Finally, I made the "mistake" of taking Spanish in college with absolutely no interest in going to Latin America. I'm going to try taking lessons and cramming in Arabic (yeah right) and French (took 3 years in HS, hoping to brush up to a professional conversational level). Realistically Arabic is a long shot and I won't have anything near proficiency until next round of hirings if I don't get picked up this time, but it may be possible that I get my French polished up enough. There are no bonuses for world languages like French right? Only languages like Arabic, Urdu etc?
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2010 17:04 |
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Two speak on why I'm trying to pick up Arabic AND French: It's because I think I can brush up enough on French to pick up a bonus (Arabic not so sure, doubt I can figure out how to finance a trip to an Arabic country) and I'd like to work in Sub-Saharan Africa for the most part. I figure I speak French, Arabic, and English I should be golden for most of Africa. Speaking of, in case I don't get picked up this round (which I doubt I will) I'm trying to find some sort of aid org or NGO (preferably Africa) to hook up with. Get some overseas experience, a salary, etc. Anyone have any ideas? Is that feasible?
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2010 07:44 |
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Putting the final touches on my Personal Narratives. Due tomorrow at 11:59PM central. Any last minute advice?
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2010 21:54 |
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These PNs are killing me. I'm trying to hit a lot of the 13 Ds but I don't know how strong my narratives really are since I lack pretty much any international experience.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2010 03:14 |
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Originally I was just going to post: "Piqued." (http://www.dissociatedpress.net/2007/02/26/peak-vs-pique/) but then I read the rest of your post and felt like a dick. I think it costs ~$50 to take the FSOT. Turning in the online application is free. With that in mind, I don't see any reason not to at least try. Study up on US History, English, etc and take the test. If you pass, you pass. If you don't, reevaluate and decide whether or not to take it again. You can't win if you never play.
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2010 15:19 |
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My biggest regret is that I didn't do as much research as I should have into the application process. I applied on a whim and my application was finished in 20-30 minutes. I thought the application was only relevant to getting accepted to take the test but as has been said it's not and it worries me more and more the closer we get to learning the QEP results. As a result, I've been working on my Peace Corps Application for about a month. Take your time.
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# ¿ May 4, 2010 16:19 |
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Skandiaavity posted:ditto what she said! He, but it couldn't possibly matter less. Don't ask.
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# ¿ May 4, 2010 16:39 |
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There's an SFSO coming to town in a few days to talk about the Foreign Service. I'd like to go if I am still around.
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# ¿ May 13, 2010 18:20 |
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Still waiting to hear back from QEP. I'm also looking into overseas NGOs and/or other organizations that I could look into working with. I'm finished with school and getting ready to begin the campaign cycle but I'd really prefer something else. I'm also getting ready to submit my Peace Corps Application. This all leads me to a couple questions: 1) If, somehow, I receive an offer of employment from DOS and an invitation with the Peace Corps, is it possible to "defer" the employment offer until I return from Peace Corps Service? I'm assuming that candidacy terminates after 18 months no matter what but I wasn't sure if there was any sort of special clause for Peace Corps. Obviously if it's not possible, I'd take DOS over PC (and the chance of this scenario playing out is laughably slim anyway) but it'd be nice to do both. 2) Since Peace Corps and State are both "plan B" (unless I get an offer/invitation) I'm also looking for both short and long term employment with aid/development organizations and other NGOs. Basically I'm looking for the best way to get foreign experience and help people without having to pay for it (and preferably get paid for it since I am a broke recent grad).
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# ¿ May 26, 2010 22:36 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 13:44 |
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There would really be no chance of me turning down A100. If I got the job offer, I'd go. I was just wondering if there was a very slim chance that there was some sort of "Peace Corps Exception" where you could defer. I assumed there wasn't. I am banking on getting denied by DOS this time around (probably won't get past the QEP) which is why I went ahead and started the Peace Corps process. I figured I can at least try for both, with Peace Corps not so much being backup but more realistic than DOS this time around. Hopefully leverage a successful PC tour into a position as an FSO. Beyond that, I majored in Poli. Sci. with a concentration in International Relations/Comparative Gov. I focused most of my study on democratization and social cleavages, focusing geographically on East and Central Africa (my capstone research was on Uganda since Amin). I doubt there are many NGOs that work in fields promoting democracy, working with grassroots groups, mediation etc. and other types of politics in foreign countries but if there was that'd be cool. If not, I wouldn't mind work in education of some sort. I don't know anything about agriculture, health, or building trades. Beyond that, most of my skills lie in politics as I've been working campaigns for the past few cycles. I'm not sure what types of NGOs work in places like DRC, Uganda, and Rwanda but anything along those lines. Oh, I did do some training in Rape and Sexual Violence prevention as a volunteer in college. Anyway, thanks for the answers.
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