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DEAR RICHARD
Feb 5, 2009

IT'S TIME FOR MY TOOLS


bradzilla posted:

Taker/HBK at Wrestlemania is the WWE style to a T. Minus the Sim Snuka camerman botch, of course.

I was also thinking that anything with Chris Jericho today defines the style. You know what you're getting with him: a solid, well planned, well executed, safe, exciting match. I mean, when was the last time he a)had a bad match, and b)injured someone?

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Super Dan
Jan 26, 2006



Strenuous Manflurry posted:

This was a classic WCW IT'S A SHOOT BROTHER!

Even Flair's family, if memory serves, was told the heart attack was real, and the situation can be added to the numerous attempts of WCW higher-ups trying to work the boys/smarks for no discernible reason.

So, yeah, this was a classless, tasteless work.

To add to this, a week or two later they had an interview with Flair's doctor, who revealed that blood tests showed some kind of toxin, implying that Bischoff had poisoned Flair. Then Flair beat Bischoff in a match for control of WCW, and the entire heart attack/poison angle was dropped.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

I choose to expose myself

Batmanuel posted:

I was also thinking that anything with Chris Jericho today defines the style. You know what you're getting with him: a solid, well planned, well executed, safe, exciting match. I mean, when was the last time he a)had a bad match, and b)injured someone?

I almost never find Jericho matches particularly exciting. He seems to move in slow motion, even when he's flying through the air. I never figured out how he manages that.

Matlock
Sep 12, 2004

Childs Play Charity 2011 Total: $1755


he's full of hot air

Zack_Gochuck
Jan 3, 2007

Stupid Wrestling People


Maybe he avoids getting injured by falling slowly.

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

It's always Heath's fault.

Plaster Town Cop

Supreme Allah posted:

I almost never find Jericho matches particularly exciting. He seems to move in slow motion, even when he's flying through the air. I never figured out how he manages that.

Clearly he's Proto-Morrison.

Justice Grieves
Feb 26, 2007
If I must die, I shall welcome Death as an old friend, and wrap mine arms about it.

He's got great psychology. Jericho/HBK is one of my favorite matches of all time.

He's been around for a long time; I don't mind him being a medium-flyer. He's still doing all those dropkicks (and the whip-to-ropes into running bulldog, which I swear I never saw anywhere before 2009 but really often now).

dont even fink about it
Oct 9, 2005

The right reading for this is the one I'm giving.

A WWE style match is getting your ringwork down to a good routine designed for a mass audience that takes at most 25 minutes to finish, and probably less than ten. Everyone has an established routine that an audience can follow along with, and there's a definite beginning, middle, and end. All matches are based on this basic framework.

Also there's a shitload of Irish whips.

The Paradol
May 26, 2009

by Ozma


Is the Austin/Booker supermarket match on any dvds? It's one of my favorites.

DM Punk
Aug 24, 2004


Does anyone know the last wrestling PPV to have an actual intermission? I remember WM 7 had one after the Warrior/Savage match. I can't remember one after that?

ZoDiAC_
Jun 23, 2003



DM Punk posted:

Does anyone know the last wrestling PPV to have an actual intermission? I remember WM 7 had one after the Warrior/Savage match. I can't remember one after that?

These only stopped once we got women's matches.

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

It's always Heath's fault.

Plaster Town Cop

Kayfabe wise, which Diva has the worst taste in men?

Maria is pretty bad: Carlito, Santino, Ziggler... all these dudes who treat her pretty badly.

Kelly Kelly isn't terrific either: Miz, Balls Mahoney, Knox...

its me glenda
Oct 20, 2006

"hello!"


Writer Cath posted:

Kayfabe wise, which Diva has the worst taste in men?

Maria is pretty bad: Carlito, Santino, Ziggler... all these dudes who treat her pretty badly.

Kelly Kelly isn't terrific either: Miz, Balls Mahoney, Knox...

Sunny. By far.

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.


Writer Cath posted:

Kelly Kelly isn't terrific either: Miz, Balls Mahoney, Knox...

Don't forget Randy Orton!

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

It's always Heath's fault.

Plaster Town Cop

Karmine posted:

Don't forget Randy Orton!

At least she didn't get punted.

sportsgenius86
Jun 17, 2008

THE STREAK IS OVER


Writer Cath posted:

Kayfabe wise, which Diva has the worst taste in men?

Maria is pretty bad: Carlito, Santino, Ziggler... all these dudes who treat her pretty badly.

Kelly Kelly isn't terrific either: Miz, Balls Mahoney, Knox...


Chyna/Stephanie McMahon/Sable tie for the top spot

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...


think Debra wins that one

Rusty Shackelford
Feb 7, 2005


FishBulb posted:

think Debra wins that one

Kayfabe wise? Grody was right when he said Sunny - she was passed around by all of the tag teams.

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.


Rusty Shackelford posted:

Kayfabe wise? Grody was right when he said Sunny - she was passed around by all of the tag teams.

Actually she was just following the tag belts.

Rusty Shackelford
Feb 7, 2005


Karmine posted:

Actually she was just following the tag belts.

Yeah, at a time when a lot of teams had the belts.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...


Wait I forgot about Woman.

Little Mac
Jan 3, 2006

Super Mario Bros 3

grody but still def posted:

Sunny. By far.

Yep.

Brian Lee/Skip/Phineas Godwin/Both Smoking Gunns/Faarooq

nyratk1
Jul 24, 2006

by Tiny Fistpump


Writer Cath posted:

Kayfabe wise, which Diva has the worst taste in men?

Maria is pretty bad: Carlito, Santino, Ziggler... all these dudes who treat her pretty badly.

Kelly Kelly isn't terrific either: Miz, Balls Mahoney, Knox...

Terri Runnels

Rusty Shackelford
Feb 7, 2005


Matt Cruea posted:

Yep.

Brian Lee/Skip/Phineas Godwin/Both Smoking Gunns/Faarooq

LOD 2000.

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE


nyratk1 posted:

Terri Runnels

Yeah, gonna have to go with Terri; Goldust, Meat, the Hardys, Saturn, Raven...yipes.

Then again, Sapphire picked Dusty Rhodes, so maybe she's the winner.

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008

HUSS
HUSS
HUSS


CombineThresher posted:

Yeah, gonna have to go with Terri; Goldust, Meat, the Hardys, Saturn, Raven...yipes.

Then again, Sapphire picked Dusty Rhodes, so maybe she's the winner.

Sapphire also picked the Million Dollar Man.

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE


KungFu Grip posted:

Sapphire also picked the Million Dollar Man.

Before or after Dusty? Because if she left Dibiase for the American Dream, my point still stands.

Ziggy Tzardust
Apr 7, 2006

The only free choice is refusal to pay



CombineThresher posted:

Before or after Dusty? Because if she left Dibiase for the American Dream, my point still stands.

And would also explain why DiBiase hates Rhodes from DiBiase's guest hosting of Raw. I still say that the best thing this guest host nonsense has brought is Cody Rhodes singing "Common Man" to Ted DiBiase Snr.

Justice Grieves
Feb 26, 2007
If I must die, I shall welcome Death as an old friend, and wrap mine arms about it.

Sable. She sued Mr. McMahon for harassment and came back to the fed as his mistress. That also counts as the worst lawyer in wrestling.

Question: Say Big Show enters a big feud or falls off a cliff or something. Who would you team with Jericho for a long term, heel dominant run? Who would you choose to beat them, and how far out would you put it?

Personally, I think Jericho/Regal would be an amazing tag team. They've both proven they're brilliant on the mic, they're seasoned submission wrestlers, and they're both arrogant pricks. I'd give'em six months with it and maybe drop it to Miz/Morrison in a TLC or other huge-term PPV event.

Justice Grieves fucked around with this message at Aug 8, 2009 around 22:52

Dr. Ass
Apr 21, 2008



Edge definitely had the best taste in women.

EDIT: To answer the prior question, Jericho as a one-man tag team, as was speculated for a while, would be an interesting diversion for a month or two. But if he somehow manages to coax heel Punk out of the title picture and into his smarmy grasp they'd make an unbelievable team.

Dr. Ass fucked around with this message at Aug 8, 2009 around 23:29

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

BITCOIN BATMAN

I remember a while back, somebody posted a clip of Stephanie McMahon ripping off Sable's top in a parking garage.

This was on Smackdown, a taped show, and was a vinette, also pre-taped. How the hell did Rena Mero's boobies make it to air?

Rusty Shackelford
Feb 7, 2005


CM Junk posted:

Edge definitely had the best taste in women.

EDIT: To answer the prior question, Jericho as a one-man tag team, as was speculated for a while, would be an interesting diversion for a month or two. But if he somehow manages to coax heel Punk out of the title picture and into his smarmy grasp they'd make an unbelievable team.

That would be an interesting bit of trivia.

Jericho would have held 2 belts at once (WWE & WCW), 4 belts at once (WWE & World Tag), and was also a co-holder of 1 belt (IC Title with Chyna).

AkumaHokoru
Jul 20, 2007



LividLiquid posted:

I remember a while back, somebody posted a clip of Stephanie McMahon ripping off Sable's top in a parking garage.

This was on Smackdown, a taped show, and was a vinette, also pre-taped. How the hell did Rena Mero's boobies make it to air?

The answer is...that happened on raw. not smackdown.

Ziggy Tzardust
Apr 7, 2006

The only free choice is refusal to pay



AkumaHokoru posted:

The answer is...that happened on raw. not smackdown.

No it didn't. The entire segment was based around Stephanie taking back Smackdown. Also, John Cena was in the segment.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another.


Ziggy Tsardust posted:

No it didn't. The entire segment was based around Stephanie taking back Smackdown. Also, John Cena was in the segment.

July 24, 2003 to be exact. And apparently this show also involved Stephanie asking Cena to spank her.

I absolutely do not remember this episode, and I'm not sure if this is because I didn't see it or that I did and scoured it from my memory.

To answer Livid's question, I can only assume that no nudity was actually shown and because of this they could get away with it and hope that it enticed more young horny people and old creepy people to watch.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Sauerkraut, onions, mustard... that's a damn good dog.


Plaster Town Cop

Rusty Shackelford posted:

4 belts at once (WWE & World Tag),

Uh, that's still one belt there, sonny. They're unified so it's only one belt, even if the WWE and World tag belts haven't been replaced. Same thing with the WWE & WCW title, it became the WWE undisputed title as soon as he won both.

bradzilla fucked around with this message at Aug 9, 2009 around 13:22

Justice Grieves
Feb 26, 2007
If I must die, I shall welcome Death as an old friend, and wrap mine arms about it.

Bradzilla: Ultimate killjoy.

He had two physical belts.

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

But First...We train!

here the segement in question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STKbBs4qy2g

they black bar it

the end

Ziggy Tzardust
Apr 7, 2006

The only free choice is refusal to pay



The Croc posted:

here the segement in question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STKbBs4qy2g

they black bar it

the end

I beg to differ:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...035853103006947

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DEAR RICHARD
Feb 5, 2009

IT'S TIME FOR MY TOOLS


Ziggy Tsardust posted:

I beg to differ:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...035853103006947

Think shes wearing pasties, but the video isn't clear enough to tell.

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