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What would be worse: watching all of TNA's tape history, or watching WCW from 99-01 over and over to the same length as TNA has existed?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What would be worse: watching all of TNA's tape history, or watching WCW from 99-01 over and over to the same length as TNA has existed? The latter. TNA has a decent amount of bright spots and you get to watch AJ Styles grow as a wrestler, a handful of fun feuds, and the stupid stuff is funnier on the whole, IMO.
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I'd say end of life wcw was worse too but tna was maybe the closest to it if you have an observer sub the Bryan and vinny retro raw/nitros have been hilarious the past couple of weeks as they're getting into the meat of awful wcw.
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Jerusalem posted:I'm angry at whoever hurt them enough that they cannot find joy in KAZE NI NARE
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Regarding ref bumps I've always liked the Tim white hell in a cell bump, number 3 on this countdown https://youtu.be/up9oc3A0OpI
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Coaaab posted:While trying to see if I had the gif of Sandman fan (I didn't), I did find these: 
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Man David Duchovny went through some poo poo in the late 90s
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Who was the first person to point to the Wrestlemania sign after winning the Royal Rumble? Did they always have the Wrestlemania sign there?
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It was The Undertaker, because he was still doing that gimmick where he would come down from the rafters and wouldn't speak and JJ Dillon kept on being a dick about "not knowing" what he wanted unless he spoke when everyone knew
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Nov 18, 2018 00:33
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Cavauro posted:It was The Undertaker, because he was still doing that gimmick where he would come down from the rafters and wouldn't speak and JJ Dillon kept on being a dick about "not knowing" what he wanted unless he spoke when everyone knew I, too, want to see Becky embrace Crow Sting
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Nov 18, 2018 05:23
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I remember in the early to mid 2000s WWE there was a wrestler, tiny guy IIRC, who had like a white trash/hick gimmick. He also had a girlfriend with him. Does anybody remember their names? It was the girl I really wanted to remember. Dunno why, just watching a random WhatCulture video and for some reason she and then the guy popped into my brain for the first time in years.
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NikkolasKing posted:I remember in the early to mid 2000s WWE there was a wrestler, tiny guy IIRC, who had like a white trash/hick gimmick. He also had a girlfriend with him. Does anybody remember their names? Jamie Noble was the guy, and in his 2001-2004 run he was paired with Nidia. As far as I know he's still employed by WWE in some backstage capacity, and she isn't. She wasn't brought back for any of the Evolution stuff, and she was a tough enough winner(?) so I imagine that means she isn't interested in wrestling anymore.
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Nov 18, 2018 09:13
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jamie noble's finest moment was being murdered by sheamus while some dude in the crowd laughed and yelled KILL 'IM SOME MORE BIG RED. WWE should've hired that guy to be sheamus' manager imo.
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Nov 18, 2018 09:31
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Noble had some pretty good matches at the tail end of WCW, iirc.
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Seams posted:jamie noble's finest moment was being murdered by sheamus while some dude in the crowd laughed and yelled KILL 'IM SOME MORE BIG RED. WWE should've hired that guy to be sheamus' manager imo. Was his ROH title run any good? It's a blank spot for me, I've seen before it and I've seen after it but I don't think I've seen any of James Gibson, ROH World Champion.
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forkboy84 posted:Was his ROH title run any good? It's a blank spot for me, I've seen before it and I've seen after it but I don't think I've seen any of James Gibson, ROH World Champion. I think he's most notable as the guy who beat Punk to win the ROH title, and the guy who dropped it to Danielson. A transitional champ, honestly.
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Randaconda posted:Noble had some pretty good matches at the tail end of WCW, iirc. He was pretty well regarded in ROH. Great match with Danielson for the title but like was mentioned he wasn’t really a viable long term champion but he was fine transitionally
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dromal phrenia posted:Jamie Noble was the guy, and in his 2001-2004 run he was paired with Nidia. As far as I know he's still employed by WWE in some backstage capacity, and she isn't. She wasn't brought back for any of the Evolution stuff, and she was a tough enough winner(?) so I imagine that means she isn't interested in wrestling anymore. Bring back J+J security
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Aesop Poprock posted:He was pretty well regarded in ROH. Great match with Danielson for the title but like was mentioned he wasn’t really a viable long term champion but he was fine transitionally Yeah I liked most of his matches as ROH champ, though I haven't watched them in ages. I just googled and found his match where he lost the title to Danielson if anybody is curious to see it. (I don't know this website or if it will give your computer syphilis or whatever though)
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What's the first match where a light tube was used as a weapon?
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Price Check posted:What's the first match where a light tube was used as a weapon?
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Nov 18, 2018 19:50
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Jabroni-wan Kenobi
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Minidust posted:Ha, ok figures there's already an article out there talking about exactly this! Good call on Flair. Lawler is like a triple-digit champion and you almost have to ask "What is the most ridiculous [anything], also mentioning Memphis is cheating for purposes of this question"
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Bigass Moth posted:Jabroni-wan Kenobi Obi-Wan Jabroni
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Price Check posted:What's the first match where a light tube was used as a weapon? In all seriousness, while I don't have a date for it, Tomoaki Honma was the first guy to use them in a match.
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NuclearPotato posted:In all seriousness, while I don't have a date for it, Tomoaki Honma was the first guy to use them in a match. ...did he eat one? That would explain the voice.
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NuclearPotato posted:In all seriousness, while I don't have a date for it, Tomoaki Honma was the first guy to use them in a match. Some guy went back through all the copies of Observer, and the first ever reference to "light tubes" was a 4-way match between Sabu , Cactus Jack, Mr. Hughes and Virgil for NWC in Vegas on 6/24/1995: 
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Mr Hughes is weird enough in that scenario but Virgil is just surreal, and then match being almost 4 stars just makes my head hurt and I need to see this thing
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Aesop Poprock posted:Mr Hughes is weird enough in that scenario but Virgil is just surreal NWC was the same money mark promotion that got Ultimate Warrior to do an indie run in 1995: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3TSh8suBEE
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That makes sense but it looks like someone pressed randomize on a Fire Pro game and it somehow turned out good apparently
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Carlioo posted:Is ***3/4 the highest rating Virgil's ever gotten? He was also in the 1992 Rumble, which Meltzer rated ***3/4 We must find this match!
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There's a lot of NWC on youtube. The Cactus Jack vs Sabu matches were incredible innovative. Note that is an Observer reader's star rating though, the match may have never been released.
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EugeneJ posted:He was also in the 1992 Rumble, which Meltzer rated ***3/4 This made me curious what his highest rated Rumble match was but instead of asking here I just went and looked it up. Big Dave apparently pretty lukewarm on the Rumble most years because they almost never get more than a 3.5. 2008 was the highest at 4.25. The ones everyone points to as their favorites, 92, 02, and 04 he seemed to think were all fairly middling. Personally I think 08 is one of the most boring outside of the Cena return.
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MassRafTer posted:There's a lot of NWC on youtube. The Cactus Jack vs Sabu matches were incredible innovative. Note that is an Observer reader's star rating though, the match may have never been released. IIRC there was a light tube spot in the 1996 Boiler Room Brawl between Mankind and Undertaker and that's where most people saw them used for the first time Big Japan had their first light tube match in early 1997 So credit Sabu for the first spot and then credit Foley for bringing it to a worldwide audience
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Huh, guess I just took the hearsay about Honea being an early innovator in the use of light tubes at face value; that’s some legit interesting stuff there.
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Thanks everyone! The Honma/Yamakawa stuff was the first instance that I could recall but it's amazing to hear that VIRGIL of all people was in on the ground floor.
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dromal phrenia posted:Jamie Noble was the guy, and in his 2001-2004 run he was paired with Nidia. As far as I know he's still employed by WWE in some backstage capacity, and she isn't. She wasn't brought back for any of the Evolution stuff, and she was a tough enough winner(?) so I imagine that means she isn't interested in wrestling anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVRHMZNaKTY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELGvWtNM2JA
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Shiki Dan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVRHMZNaKTY Were the Steiner Bros always assholes? Naturally Scott is infamous now but I know a guy who once told me he had a lot of respect for... I forget, it was either Asya or Madusa who took a powerslam or something from Rick. He said Rick was one of the most stiff guys around and not in any sort of endearing way like Vader, he was just a dickhead.
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NikkolasKing posted:Were the Steiner Bros always assholes? Naturally Scott is infamous now but I know a guy who once told me he had a lot of respect for... I forget, it was either Asya or Madusa who took a powerslam or something from Rick. He said Rick was one of the most stiff guys around and not in any sort of endearing way like Vader, he was just a dickhead. They beat the absolute poo poo out of a young Iizuka at Wrestlewar 92, so yeah.
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