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Gavok posted:This reminds me of one of my favorite promo screw-ups. Terry Funk yelling, "Foley, I KNOW WHY you turned on Tommy Dreamer! What I want to know is WHY you turned on Tommy Dreamer!" I'm partial to " That's why I kicked your leg out of your leg! " and " The hower power".
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the hard times promo makes almost no sense when you write it out but dusty had conviction enough to sell it
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Aug 17, 2019 01:10
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also that terrible promo taker cut about taking big show out into the desert was good, actually
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Aug 17, 2019 01:10
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In kayfabe WWE doesn't stand for anything.
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Aug 17, 2019 01:13
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lost my old email posted:also that terrible promo taker cut about taking big show out into the desert was good, actually The Undertaker is bad at everything except for looking like The Undertaker.
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Aug 17, 2019 02:01
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For a guy pushed as heavily as he has been for thirty years, 'Taker has been really bad at most things. 1) Promos are bad. 2) His matches only got consistently good when he worked once or twice a year 3) He hasn't made any new stars like ever, and there's been people that probably should have went over on him yet hardly anybody does, and with the exception of Reigns, it was pretty much somebody who was already a top star.
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Aug 17, 2019 02:15
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In Republican Stamford, you stand for WWE.
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Aug 17, 2019 03:26
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'Taker helped make Mankind a pretty big deal right out of the gate
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Aug 17, 2019 03:29
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Are we forgetting about our fellow Going, KANE????
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Aug 17, 2019 03:32
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Taker also had a fantastic match with Jeff Hardy that made the latter big. But honestly, its a fluke, Taker has made maybe 2 people in a career and mostly been involved in poo poo stories. His character is cool and he has great presence, and occasionally he can pull out a great match when someone else who is great is in there with him. Kane is maybe number 3. And look at Kane, he's Taker in miniature. He somehow has worse stories, and nobody ever comes out of a Kane feud looking good. Despite this, there were times where I was the biggest Taker fan.
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Aug 17, 2019 03:32
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In the long run the streak was more profitable. But without the benefit of hindsight, Taker going over Kane in their first (and second!) match was just terrible. That character was the ultimate monster and they permanently chumpatized him with that loss.
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Aug 17, 2019 03:42
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:In the long run the streak was more profitable. But without the benefit of hindsight, Taker going over Kane in their first (and second!) match was just terrible. That character was the ultimate monster and they permanently chumpatized him with that loss. i think i recently heard that kane wasn't meant to be a permanent character and only stuck around because ppl thought he looked so cool (he did) so that might be related.
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Aug 17, 2019 03:49
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Alaois posted:this is like the loving thing where people say Kentucky Fried Chicken officially changed its name to just the acronym KFC because they weren't legally allowed to call what they sell chicken WWF was originally trademarked by World Wildlife Fund ...which the WWE didn't know until they got sued/cease and desisted for it, which lead to the name change.
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Aug 17, 2019 03:53
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TV Zombie posted:WWF was originally trademarked by World Wildlife Fund ...which the WWE didn't know until they got sued/cease and desisted for it, which lead to the name change. before they asked you to stand for wwe, wwe first asked their fans to "get the f out". i was offended, my elderly mother was offended, and we certainly did not stand for wwe
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Aug 17, 2019 03:56
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i stood up for wwe, and then turned off the tv and went to my personal computer to sign up for new japan world (this is a joke because those events happened 3+ years apart, it did not take me 3 years to walk from my television to my computer, sorry for misleading you everyone)
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Aug 17, 2019 04:01
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Undertaker also did good work in making The Great Khali, it was just a real poor investment.
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Aug 17, 2019 04:09
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Taker jobbed totally clean to Vladimir Koslov. As I recall, he caught Taker coming off of Old School, powerslammed him and pinned him right in the middle
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Aug 17, 2019 04:18
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The Koslov and Khali losses were pretty clean, the vast majority of these weren't. It's also kind of a heady mix of "Undertaker put them over well after they were made", "Undertaker 'put them over' while making them look like chumps", and "Undertaker put them over and then WWE decided to stop pushing them". And some that were pretty much fine. People Undertaker Got Pinned/Submitted/Lost a Gimmick Match To In a Singles Match By Year 1991 - Hulk Hogan, Tito Santana (aired only in Spain) 1994 - Yokozuna 1995 - Mabel 1996 - Goldust, Mankind 1997 - Vader, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels 1998 - Shawn Michaels, Kane, Steve Austin 1999 - Steve Austin, Triple H 2000 - Kurt Angle, Rikishi 2001 - Booker T, Rob Van Dam 2002 - Maven, The Rock, Triple H, Kurt Angle, Matt Hardy, Brock Lesnar 2003 - John Cena, Brock Lesnar 2004 - JBL 2005 - Randy Orton 2006 - Kurt Angle, Great Khali, Mister Kennedy 2007 - Edge, Batista 2008 - Edge, Big Show, Jeff Hardy 2009 - Vladimir Kozlov, Big Show, CM Punk 2010 - Chris Jericho, Kane 2014 - Brock Lesnar 2017 - Roman Reigns
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Aug 17, 2019 04:48
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TV Zombie posted:WWF was originally trademarked by World Wildlife Fund ...which the WWE didn't know until they got sued/cease and desisted for it, which lead to the name change. The crazy thing now is that the panda WWF is way more evil and has way more blood money than the WWE.
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Aug 17, 2019 04:53
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What? How? Also, can anyone answer how Cristley got a show on TV? He doesn't seem to do anything.
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Aug 17, 2019 05:32
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TV Zombie posted:What? How? he's rich and this is america, if you want a reality show and you have enough money i assume you just call someone up.
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Aug 17, 2019 05:33
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TV Zombie posted:What? How? Check this out. WWE has done a lot of awful poo poo but "literally murdering kids" is not on the list afaik
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Aug 17, 2019 06:04
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What did people think about Vladmir Kozlov? It sounds like he was on an undefeated streak during that Taker match but I don't think I've ever actually seen people talking about him online (Or I've just assumed he was some 80's wrestler if I ever saw his name, I suppose). Why/How was his push derailed? What happened after that match? It looks like he teamed with Santino?? Sounds like a dire fate for someone they seemed to be high on. Was he just not good?
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Aug 17, 2019 06:37
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His first appearance was endearing because he was this goofy Russian dude they interviewed in the crowd (as a wrestler) who declared,"I LOVE DOUBLE DOUBLE E!" but when they got around to introducing him as a regular member of the roster he was a very serious character with a good look who didn't really have the skills or experience to go with it. After awhile hanging roughly around the mid-card they decided to team him up with Santino as a comedy character which worked better in concept than execution. I literally do not remember when or why he left which probably says a lot about his run in WWE, really. He seemed to be a nice guy that everybody liked who had a good look and a fair amount of potential but never really fully realized it. How much of that was WWE's fault and how much was him just not quite having it I couldn't say, but I have relatively fond memories of him as a low-card/mid-card guy who at least had enough of a character to stand out from the generic looking dudes around him.
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Aug 17, 2019 07:02
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Fauxhawk Express posted:'Taker helped make Mankind a pretty big deal right out of the gate Mankind felt like a huge deal when he first hit the scene. Seeing someone terrorize the Undertaker like that was amazing.
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Aug 17, 2019 07:31
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Has anyone besides Mankind had a different entrance and ending song? Everything was great about the character but that was a really nice extra touch. As a huge musical storytelling fan, I greatly appreciate it.
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Aug 17, 2019 08:05
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TV Zombie posted:WWF was originally trademarked by World Wildlife Fund ...which the WWE didn't know until they got sued/cease and desisted for it, which lead to the name change. Vince totally knew, and had made a deal not to use the WWF initials overseas because of it, but since Vince thinks contracts only applies when he wants them to, he ignored it and (rightfully) got spanked in court.
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Aug 17, 2019 10:44
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Randaconda posted:Vince totally knew, and had made a deal not to use the WWF initials overseas because of it, but since Vince thinks contracts only applies when he wants them to, he ignored it and (rightfully) got spanked in court.
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Aug 17, 2019 10:56
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What's your unpopularly held wrestling opinion? The Rocks music has always sucked. Even the intro... .. ESPECIALLY the intro.
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Aug 17, 2019 15:07
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Gangrel was actually a pretty good wrestler with neat moves
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Aug 17, 2019 15:41
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Judging by ratings not moving, nobody much cared about CM Punk during the summer of Punk or his endless title run. Edit: Same with Bryan Danielson during his mega push
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Draxion posted:Check this out. WWE has done a lot of awful poo poo but "literally murdering kids" is not on the list afaik Yeah, funding extermination squads is hard to top.
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Aug 17, 2019 17:23
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It's not that impressive to make your wrestling look good by actually hurting people. Misawa maybe could've landed on his head less often.
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Aug 17, 2019 17:55
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DeathChicken posted:Gangrel was actually a pretty good wrestler with neat moves He moved really well, he was like a chubby heavyweight Lucha dude
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What's your unpopularly held wrestling opinion? Finn Balor/Prince Devitt is just ok and always has been
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Aug 17, 2019 21:05
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Aesop Poprock posted:He moved really well, he was like a chubby heavyweight Lucha dude what i liked about gangrel is that he had his own way of doing everything. like his elbowdrop was his own weird way of doing an elbow drop. booker T was the same way
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Aug 17, 2019 21:07
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What's your unpopularly held wrestling opinion? It was good when it started with just "Do you smell what The Rock is cooking?" It got worse when they changed it to "If ya smellllll..."
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Aug 17, 2019 23:16
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What's your unpopularly held wrestling opinion? this may not be unpopular, but the G1 winner having to defend a briefcase leading up to the Dome is dumb as gently caress. cheapens the entire tourney.
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Aug 17, 2019 23:41
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_jVOgPQm7g This is the best Rock theme by far, only Hollywood Rock comes close to it.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:this may not be unpopular, but the G1 winner having to defend a briefcase leading up to the Dome is dumb as gently caress. cheapens the entire tourney. Disagree. It just formalises what should happen anyway (the winner shouldn't be dropping singles matches or why is he challenging the champ and not the guy who beat him?) and lets you showcase the winner by having high profile matches with them. In fact, WWE NOT having the Rumble winner (or the MITB winner) do the same lately arguably hurts those concepts because it lets Vince beat those people like a drum because 'well, they won the Rumble/ladder match, so they're over'.
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