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CityMidnightJunky posted:What's your unpopularly held wrestling opinion? I dunno. Nothing leaps out. I'd go with "Attitude Era was actually mostly bad" but I don't think that's very controversial nowadays. ECW on the WWE Network is unwatchable and I'd rather watch degraded 5th generation VHS rips with original music and promos because they were such a large part of the presentation of the promotion. But even that doesn't seem particularly unpopular an opinion.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What's your unpopularly held wrestling opinion? I like every individual member of the Elite to varying degrees but I think as a group they're loving insufferable, and it's mostly due to the Young Bucks. There's just something about the way their personalities combine with the other 4 that makes me like the Elite far, far less than I would individually or even just minus the Bucks. I was initially a little disappointed when they all left New Japan because Cody's last few months were a terribly uninspired feud with Juice and it meant Hangman wouldn't be in the G1 again despite being one of the few highlights of the A block last year. However now that they've been gone for a good 8 months I can say that apart from really liking all of Kenny's matches with the New Japan main eventers I genuinely don't miss them. I hope AEW does well and makes Vince even more shook than it already has, because their success can only be good for the industry, but it's pretty far off my radar unfortunately.
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Aug 18, 2019 00:38
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What's your unpopularly held wrestling opinion? Early 2000s Test was a pretty good in-ring performer destroyed by his bad booking.
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Gaz-L posted:Disagree. It just formalises what should happen anyway (the winner shouldn't be dropping singles matches or why is he challenging the champ and not the guy who beat him?) and lets you showcase the winner by having high profile matches with them. No, no, no, it's the talent's fault for not grabbing the brass ring! No talent in the history of the industry has needed booking behind them to get over! god, WWE has been a loving trash fire for like fifteen years
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Aug 18, 2019 00:42
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Claytor posted:Early 2000s Test was a pretty good in-ring performer destroyed by his bad booking. Yeah, Test before he stopped giving a poo poo after being destroyed by the lovely booking was alright.
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Aug 18, 2019 00:43
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Claytor posted:Early 2000s Test was a pretty good in-ring performer destroyed by his bad booking. I don't disagree w/this. The match with Kane at No Mercy '01 is very underrated.
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Aug 18, 2019 00:44
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Claytor posted:Early 2000s Test was a pretty good in-ring performer destroyed by his bad booking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2S1GD_NbIQ That finisher was so legit the audience thought he had a chance against Lesnar. One of my favorite finishers ever.
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Aug 18, 2019 00:57
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Why don't more guys do the thigh slap for the big boot, tbh?
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Aug 18, 2019 01:07
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Randaconda posted:Yeah, Test before he stopped giving a poo poo after being destroyed by the lovely booking was alright. Didn’t just about everyone think Test was was going to be huge after the Shane match?
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Aug 18, 2019 01:27
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Yeah, that Triple H-Stephanie-Vince storyline pretty much neutered his chances of becoming a potential main eventer. I remember him being ungodly over in that Shane match.
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pseudodragon posted:Didn’t just about everyone think Test was was going to be huge after the Shane match? There was some thought he could be a legit main-eventer. I wouldn't go that far, he never really had mic skills, but he certainly could have been a legit upper-midcarder who occasionally challenged for the title on a b-show or whatever.
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When you're the size of Test, once you're over you don't need mic skills. You just need that goddamn boot.
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Mine is that gimmick match themed pay per views are interesting in concept.
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Aug 18, 2019 02:06
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What's your unpopularly held wrestling opinion? bullet club are good and should stick around. also, chase owens is good and very underrated due to being kinda fat. UnlimitedSpessmans fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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Aug 18, 2019 02:08
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:also, chase owens is good and very underrated due to being kinda fat. This is just a fact. Chase is a very capable hand, he knows his role & excels in it, he makes the guys he faces look good, but he looks garbage. In fact I'd argue with his haircut he plays into the garbage look.
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forkboy84 posted:This is just a fact. Chase is a very capable hand, he knows his role & excels in it, he makes the guys he faces look good, but he looks garbage. In fact I'd argue with his haircut he plays into the garbage look. rolling around in the garbage to cement yourself as garbage
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:bullet club are good and should stick around. Wholeheartedly agree, he was my local indy's top heel for a while before NJPW started using him full-time, and he had a good match every show. Guy can go, he just happens to be surrounded by people who are even better
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Aug 18, 2019 02:55
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NikkolasKing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2S1GD_NbIQ I've always loved The Barbarian's Big Boot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqCexYJoYTM&t=183s
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lost my old email posted:what i liked about gangrel is that he had his own way of doing everything. like his elbowdrop was his own weird way of doing an elbow drop. booker T was the same way
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Aug 18, 2019 03:45
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I know that Wrestling, (like most professional sports), has an ingrained culture of "play through the pain" when it comes to injuries. Insomuch as it's "I don't care that you broke a bone in your wrist. Tape it up and go out there and do your moves. What, you sprained your ankle? Well you have 5 more matches to do this week, so lace your boots up a little tighter and you'll be fine." And this attitude can come from both the promoter forcing the wrestler to wrestle, and the wrestler themselves not wanting to miss dates etc. Does this translate to illness? I am not talking about the sniffles, (although when in a tight sweaty locker room, viruses like that would spread very quickly. SO it is probably something you don't want around.) I am talking stuff like a full on flu, or fever. Does the same "suck it up princess" mindset still apply?
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Aug 18, 2019 11:58
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NikkolasKing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2S1GD_NbIQ 🤜🤛. I loving love Test's Big Boot.
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Aug 18, 2019 12:49
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BrigadierSensible posted:I know that Wrestling, (like most professional sports), has an ingrained culture of "play through the pain" when it comes to injuries. Insomuch as it's "I don't care that you broke a bone in your wrist. Tape it up and go out there and do your moves. What, you sprained your ankle? Well you have 5 more matches to do this week, so lace your boots up a little tighter and you'll be fine." And this attitude can come from both the promoter forcing the wrestler to wrestle, and the wrestler themselves not wanting to miss dates etc. Don't know how true it was, but the story was Bret Hart had a 102 fever when he lost the IC belt to The Mountie.
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Davros1 posted:Don't know how true it was, but the story was Bret Hart had a 102 fever when he lost the IC belt to The Mountie. Then the corpse of Gotch walked up, crying, saying Bret was the best wrestler he had ever seen.
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Randaconda posted:On the new Hot Ones episode, Austin tells a story of making GBS threads all over himself during a match with Yoko in South Africa. That episode is so great, Austin pausing for a moment like the heat has gotten to him before revealing he's actually checking his pulse was 
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Davros1 posted:Don't know how true it was, but the story was Bret Hart had a 102 fever when he lost the IC belt to The Mountie. He dropped the belt because Vince thought he was going to WCW/Bret was exploring the offer Atlanta had made him, Bret talks about it in his book.
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forkboy84 posted:I dunno. Nothing leaps out. I'd go with "Attitude Era was actually mostly bad" but I don't think that's very controversial nowadays.
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Aug 18, 2019 20:21
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What's your unpopularly held wrestling opinion? Vince McMahon having Dusty Rhodes wrestle in polka dots was really not a big deal.
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Aug 18, 2019 20:59
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Why is Scott Steiner persona non grata in WWE?
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I'm not entirely sure it's just this, but he has never been one to mince his words about how much he hates the McMahons, Trips in particular.
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LividLiquid posted:Why is Scott Steiner persona non grata in WWE? He publicly said that they rushed him into working w/HHH knowing his foot was still injured, said that'd he do a drug test if HHH would do one at the same time (and that they backed off immediately after), said HHH is an overrated dick, publicly shat on Hogan, and I think he threatened to hurt a woman in the same interview (Linda, maybe? Fuzzy on this part).
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El Gallinero Gros posted:and I think he threatened to hurt a woman in the same interview (Linda, maybe? Fuzzy on this part). It was Hogan's 2nd wife; she said Steiner went up to her at an airport and threatened to kill Hogan, so that got him banned from the 2015 Hall of Fame.
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Aku posted:It was Hogan's 2nd wife; she said Steiner went up to her at an airport and threatened to kill Hogan, so that got him banned from the 2015 Hall of Fame. Ah, okay. I knew it was something like that.
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Has Steve Austin ever seriously considered a return to the ring, even in a one off, since he retired? He was pretty beaten up by the end but they managed to shove enough money at Shawn Micheals and I assumed he was done forever. Then again, Austin probably makes plenty from residuals, his podcast and whatever TV shows he works on.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Has Steve Austin ever seriously considered a return to the ring, even in a one off, since he retired? He was pretty beaten up by the end but they managed to shove enough money at Shawn Micheals and I assumed he was done forever. No, his neck is hosed up so it'd be a bad idea for his health. I doubt he makes much off residuals anymore, the Network basically killed off that revenue stream. Licensing money for the toys and video games are still there though. But he's got money either way.
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MassRafTer posted:No, his neck is hosed up so it'd be a bad idea for his health. That's what I figured. I can't believe he managed to come back from that piledriver in the first place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCXfezz4BB8 This video is what brought it up to me.
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He's never really said why, as far as I know. All we can do is speculate. Austin went out on his back putting over Rock and he was hurt, and I'd imagine he never came back for a one-off because of his experience being a guy whose time it was to shine but got derailed by an un-retired Hulk Hogan.
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I think Austin could theoretically do a match in the Goldberg vein (not the Undertaker match, more the Lesnar, KO and Ziggler squashes) where he comes in, hits the Thesz press, some stomps, the stun gun and the stunner, but I think he's said he's not interested in doing that, that he'd only come back if he could work at a high level and he couldn't when he left, and the older he gets, the further away that is.
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Austin has spinal stenosis. Goldberg is the perfect example of why he shouldn't come back to do even a short match. You can get injured really badly just doing a short match.
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RIP Test
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