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Shiki Dan posted:Forgot to add: And the entirety of the older fans, who tend to be quite numerous at these shows, go absolutely banana, and the easily led children cheer because everyone else is cheering. At the Smackdown I just went to, a kid was chanting along with everyone else, but kept mishearing, so at one point, he was cheering for "Toby" while Kofi Kingston was getting huge face pops. But don't let that stop ya, pal.
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tzirean posted:Not necessarily. 260 Vicodin and 180 somas? He's obviously not a kingpin, but he could believably be selling to a few people. I like to think he turned down the Undertaker schedule at 7 figures just to make however chump chain selling a relatively small amount of drugs whilst getting high all day
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So prior to last night when was the last decent Lawler match in WWE? (Surprised they didn't mention he's never had a Wrestlemania match) I'm fairly sure it's Summerslam 93 with the whole Bret Hart/excuses and Doink thing which was fantastic. His matches with Mark Henry/Jake Roberts were dull, that Summerslam match with Tazz was horrid. Oh and the whole setup to Booker T vs HHH king vs king of kings. For someone who's been with the company for 17 years he's not actually had that many fueds.
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WeaselWeaz posted:I can't find the original post from Perverted Justice, but it's a website where people set-up sexual predators and then release their names, videos, etc. Oddly enough though, AFAIK he wasn't actually charged with anything, which...I'm not sure I get.
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bobkatt013 posted:Hopefully he would not have Santa on it. To go on a tangent : I dare you to do a GIS for Ultimate Warrior Santa. Possibly with safesearch off. In case it isn't blindingly obvious by my tone, NWS. That ain't fanart either, that's from his own comic. I guess I could ask "how crazy is the Ultimate Warrior", but the answer is already known : Very. Are there any less well-known examples of his insanity?
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He even used RFWrestling as his chat handle. Smart fella.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Oddly enough though, AFAIK he wasn't actually charged with anything, which...I'm not sure I get. I reserve the right to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that most of the guys who get busted by Perverted Justice don't end up getting charged because of the circumstances of these stings.
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Lazy like a Fox posted:I reserve the right to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that most of the guys who get busted by Perverted Justice don't end up getting charged because of the circumstances of these stings. Yeah I guess it's questions of entrapment/stuff being admissible in court.
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Honestly, "trying to date young teenagers" is pretty low on the wrestling scandal list *for wrestlers*.
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I was watching "Rise and Fall of WCW" With my nephew and when they started talking about who came up for the idea for the New World Order Chris Jericho (I Think) said Eric Bishoff got the idea from New Japan. What was the Name of the New Japan group and what were its members?
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BigRed0427 posted:I was watching "Rise and Fall of WCW" With my nephew and when they started talking about who came up for the idea for the New World Order Chris Jericho (I Think) said Eric Bishoff got the idea from New Japan. I believe he meant the UWFi. They kept calling all other Japanese promotions 'fake' and eventually started a big feud with NJPW http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UWF_International
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I'll ask because I'm curious. What do you think is the most offensive skit/angle ever done in wrestling and why? I would have to go with Katie Vick. It was easy to see that the segment was produced solely to shock people and try to drum up controversy. It did nothing to make Kane more sympathetic, made HHH look freaking bizarre and was quite simply, gross. On top of that, the segment spawned another, stupid segment the following week, which, again, did nothing to further the angle. For me, it sucked on so many different levels and in the end, accomplished nothing.
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Writer Cath posted:I'll ask because I'm curious. It led to great matches and I know it was their idea, but the Rey/Eddie Dominick storyline made me feel really uncomfortable. Mostly for personal reasons, but still.
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Writer Cath posted:I'll ask because I'm curious. -Rodman raping a woman until she loved him -Dominick/Rey -King/Jake Roberts -Road Warrior Hawk/Droz
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Writer Cath posted:I'll ask because I'm curious. Eddie Guerrero's death used for a Rey Mysterio push and Chavo Guerrero heel turn.
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Writer Cath posted:I'll ask because I'm curious. Chavo turning into a white guy because he was ashamed of being mexican. I thought it was funny but I could see it being horribly offensive to pretty much anyone.
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ColeM posted:Chavo turning into a white guy because he was ashamed of being mexican. I thought it was funny but I could see it being horribly offensive to pretty much anyone. Mexicools were worse. Kerwin at least had that theme music and mugging titantron.
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Giedroyc posted:Mexicools were worse. Kerwin at least had that theme music and mugging titantron. I agree with this too. They would all come to the ring riding lawn mowers... god drat.
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ColeM posted:I agree with this too. They would all come to the ring riding lawn mowers... god drat. Who doesn't want to drive a Juan Deere?
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Writer Cath posted:I'll ask because I'm curious. Hawk/Puke, nothing comes close
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Stephanie Mcmahon comparing 9/11 to her fathers steroid trial.
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Lone Rogue posted:Melanie Pillman on Raw after Brian died. That was more tasteless/tactless than offensive. Still a horrible idea, though.
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antiloquax posted:That was more tasteless/tactless than offensive. Still a horrible idea, though. Fair enough. Fritz forging his dead sons signature and selling forged prints to WCCW fans. It wasn't an angle or skit, but it was a major part of WCCw.
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WeaselWeaz posted:Eddie Guerrero's death used for a Rey Mysterio push and Chavo Guerrero heel turn. I think Chavo turned heel and became Kerwin White a few weeks before Eddy's death. All of the tribute videos and photographs from that time have him with the bleached-blonde hair. When Eddie died, he went straight back to being a face, and used all of Eddie's signiature moves for his high-spots.
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Lone Rogue posted:Melanie Pillman on Raw after Brian died. I never saw this, just heard about it, any links to it online?
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Tyma posted:I think Chavo turned heel and became Kerwin White a few weeks before Eddy's death. All of the tribute videos and photographs from that time have him with the bleached-blonde hair. When Eddie died, he went straight back to being a face, and used all of Eddie's signiature moves for his high-spots. Then, after Rey had won the title, Chavo and Vickie turned on him.
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El Axo Grande posted:-King/Jake Roberts
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frankenfreak posted:What was that feud/angle about? At this point Jake was "sober" and the King poured JD all over him and he claims that is what caused his relapse. The King also mocked his past alcohol problems, just really tasteless especially coming from a guy that was charged with raping a 16 year old.
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frankenfreak posted:What was that feud/angle about? Recovering alcoholic Roberts getting mocked by the King, including at one point having King pour liqour on Roberts after a match.
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Jakes says he's a good Christian and no longer drinks King says he's a lying hypocrite and still a piss head, ends up pouring whiskey down his throat on PPV. At the time King was the heel. Mark Henry in his all American tights got involved. Edit: Everyone loves 1996 WWF storylines apparently.
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frankenfreak posted:What was that feud/angle about? Roberts was doing a born again preacher/recovering addict gimmick and Lawler claimed it was bullshit. He made jokes about Roberts being drunk constantly, then I think Roberts jumped him. At one point Lawler beat him up and poured whiskey down Roberts throat. Roberts has claimed in shoot interviews, I think even in WWE's DVD, that it was real whiskey and he was not told that in advance. They had a couple matches, one of which was on Raw where Roberts came to the ring drunk with a bottle of whiskey, Lawler made drunk jokes, then when his back was turned Roberts showed he was faking, pinned Lawler, and then poured the whiskey all over Lawler's face.
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WCW and TNA did the same thing with Scott Hall and Rhyno respectively.
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The Jean Genie posted:WCW and TNA did the same thing with Scott Hall and Rhyno respectively. And Austin in his feud with Scott Hall poured beer all over him as well calling him a drunk.
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Ktik posted:And Austin in his feud with Scott Hall poured beer all over him as well calling him a drunk. In all fairness, Roberts claimed to be an addict while I think Hall to this day claims he's not.
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WeaselWeaz posted:In all fairness, Roberts claimed to be an addict while I think Hall to this day claims he's not. Its still not as tasteless as WCW's version of it
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The Jean Genie posted:WCW and TNA did the same thing with Scott Hall and Rhyno respectively. I dont remember the feud bewteen Rhyno and Jarret ever invoved Rhyno being exposed to alcohol though. They just mentioned he was a recovering alcohoholic to build up face sympathy.
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ChampRamp posted:Hawk/Puke, nothing comes close Wikipedia posted:He was involved in a confrontation involving L.O.D. member Hawk's alcoholism. In this confrontation, Hawk was seen by his partner Animal as unfit to wrestle and Drozdov was tapped to take Hawk's place in the tag team. The situation ended with accusations that Drozdov had been the "enabler" of Hawk's problems and had dosed the L.O.D. member to take his place in the team. During this segment, Hawk was shown to have fallen (or more likely pushed by Puke) off the TitanTron. The feud culminated at the UK PPV WWF Capital Carnage when the L.O.D. team of Drozdov and Animal took on The Headbangers. During the match, Drozdov entered the ring to defend Animal who was on the receiving end of an illegal double-team by The Headbangers. While the referee was occupied ushering Headbanger Thrasher out of the ring, Headbanger Mosh rolled up Drozdov, and the referee turned around and made the three count. Animal, enraged that Drozdov got involved, began to brawl with Drozdov before walking away from the ring in disgust, effectively ending Drozdov's run with L.O.D. It sounds pretty bad. So Droz was an unofficial Road Warrior, and apparently got Hawk heavily into alcohol so he could try to replace him? Then Droz pushed Hawk off the Titantron and that's it? There was never any real blow off to their little feud? How long was Hawk gone after the Titantron incident before he returned? Someone mentioned Scott Hall's alcoholism angle in WCW, and that was bad. I can remember a few weeks in a row with Nash going to find Hall at bars and one time sticking Hall's head into a toilet.
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Going by WWE/WWF only, Top 10 Most Offensive Angles in no particular order: --Sgt. Slaughter's Saddam Hussein sympathizer angle --Austin's Satanic Crucifixion by Undertaker and the Ministry of Darkness --Hawk/Droz Drug Dealer Alcoholic Suicide Angle --Katie Vick --Any and all instances of attempted, implied, or actual rape (Viscera attempting to rape Ryan Shamrock, Viscera attempting to rape Rob Conway, DX/Triple H's implied rape of a girl who was supposed to be Stephanie) --Vince McMahon putting himself over God (which even earned him coverage on Keith Olbermann's Worst Person in the World segment) --Any and all instances of attempted murder (Austin/Pillman gun angle, The Rock's attempted murder of Austin by throwing him off a bridge--or was it the other way around???) --Jake's Relapsed Alcoholic angle (as mentioned) --Katie Lea/Paul Birchill's attempted incest angle --Any and all instances of a wrestler's death or family of a recently-deceased wrestler's being used to pop ratings or push someone (Melanie Pillman, Randy Orton: "Eddie's not in heaven, he's in HELL!!!")
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