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404GoonNotFound posted:The Mark Henry "not medically cleared to compete" moment from DB's attempted cash-in kinda deflates this one. And didn't that end up getting contradicted right after that when Bryan cashed in on an unconscious Big Show?
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I thought the deal with the Henry non-cash-in was that Henry was injured in a match previous to the show with the cash-in, while Big Show had just been KO'd in an angle/match ending minutes prior, so no such declaration could have been made.
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Apr 27, 2013 03:09
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Instead of all that, make the rules simple: The first person to use The big Show as a human club wins. I have learned a bunch of neat stuff: 1)What no-selling, selling and overselling is. That last thing is impossible.  2)Japanese wrestling seems like it's what wrestling here in America should be right the gently caress now. 3)How hilarious/entertaining wrestling is. gently caress this 'I'm too grown up for this stuff' give me wrestling mans please. Also: What's a 'jobber'? Just a schmuck they bring in on a one-time thing?
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Apr 27, 2013 03:15
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Bash Ironfist posted:
Someone who loses a lot, their job is to lose in a way that makes the guy they're losing to look like a million bucks. Think Zack Ryder or Heath Slater. Other related vocab, JTTS (jobber to the stars), a guy like Jericho who beats other jobbers but jobs to main event and guys they're trying to build up.
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Apr 27, 2013 03:17
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Bash Ironfist posted:Instead of all that, make the rules simple: The first person to use The big Show as a human club wins. This is overselling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC6jPR4OyUw
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bobkatt013 posted:This is overselling That's the perfect amount of selling + amazing just like anything else that makes Hogan look like a joke.
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Yuriy posted:Someone who loses a lot, their job is to lose in a way that makes the guy they're losing to look like a million bucks. Ahh okay, that makes sense. bobkatt013 posted:This is overselling That is entertaining as all hell, I say. Yuriy posted:That's the perfect amount of selling + amazing just like anything else that makes Hogan look like a joke. This.
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Apr 27, 2013 03:21
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Yep. Over the top selling or not, that was the best match Hogan had had since WM 18. And if you don't count that match, it was his best match in like 10-13 years.
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Bash Ironfist posted:Instead of all that, make the rules simple: The first person to use The big Show as a human club wins. #3 is such the right attitude to have. People who take wrestling seriously are doing it wrong. Also, don't think anyone explained the terminology where "doing a job" means to lose, and "going over" means to win; this is different to "getting over" which means being popular. Glossary of professional wrestling terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is a pretty great resource for learning what industry terms mean.
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Apr 27, 2013 05:09
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Michael McGillicuty. People here call him SHAH, right? How did he get that nickname?
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Liar Lyre posted:Michael McGillicuty. People here call him SHAH, right? How did he get that nickname? He yells SHAH when he punches.
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Apr 27, 2013 06:18
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Bard Maddox posted:He yells SHAH when he punches. And the Full Sail crowd loving loves it.
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A shameless cash in on Argo's Oscar buzz.
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Paulocaust posted:Are we really going to bitch over an extra 6man ladder match? I will when the end result is to book the winner of said match in such a way that the company feels he can lose as many matches as they want because he'll just win the belt anyway.
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Bard Maddox posted:He yells SHAH when he punches. Thought so, just haven't noticed it. I'll have to look out for it next time I see him.
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HulkaMatt posted:I will when the end result is to book the winner of said match in such a way that the company feels he can lose as many matches as they want because he'll just win the belt anyway. CM Punk's cash-in the first time was great because almost everyone was waiting for it to happen, and the second one was alright because it lead to a great CM Punk heel turn/Hardy feud. Nothing after that has really done it for me. The WWE title is worth too much for a nobody to win a briefcase, and the World Title is so devalued at this point it might as well be the TV Title or European title circa 1999. I take that back actually, there were compelling feuds over those titles. I don't enjoy watching someone lose for 6 months and then suddenly win the title without any build-up, there's not much drama too it. Especially when everyone's auto-turned into chickenshit heels.
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A WWE featuring nothing but heels would be a fascinating thing to watch. Heel announcers, heel wrestlers, heel referees, heel backstage interviwers, heel ring construction employees, heel doctors, heel truck monkeys, etc;etc.
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Gonz posted:A WWE featuring nothing but heels would be a fascinating thing to watch. At least then WWE wouldn't be telling us who to cheer for.
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Of course they would: John Cena.
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Xerzes posted:Of course they would: John Cena. When the biggest face is dropping poop from the ceiling onto his ex-girlfriend, everybody's a heel.
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I honestly don't care much about mitb anymore, but I think they could just as easily do a 6 man ladder match for the US title. There are plenty of good workers to fill that out and it's better than Cesaro losing to Kofi for his millionth meaningless title reign. I hate Kofi, he's sloppy and not that good, he just jumps high so this may influence my thoughts.
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When was the last time a tag team either replaced a member, or broke up and one guy got a different partner for a "new" team? I remember the latter happening several times way back, like the New Foundation (Owen/Anvil) and the New Rockers (Jannetty/Snow), and I remember the former happening to Demolition when Ax got older and Smash/Crush became the new ring team, but I can't remember it happening more recently. The only recent example I can think of is Legacy, but they were a stable. What got me thinking of this was the idea of Dibiase reforming Legacy or Priceless as a tag team with McGillicutty instead.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:All you need to know is that Sting apparently likes changing his look to reflect trends that are at least two or three years past their point of original popularity. Brandon Lee and Heath Ledger power Sting.
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sticklefifer posted:When was the last time a tag team either replaced a member, or broke up and one guy got a different partner for a "new" team? Animal & Heidenreich is the only one I can think of, you mean a new team that's similar to the old one right?
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Marty Jannetty and Al Snow briefly teamed up as the New Rockers in 1996. The Rock & Roll Express and the Midnight Express have both gone through a few other configurations in addition to the most famous ones. EDIT: Eh never mind, I didn't read the question correctly. It was fairly common with iconic teams 20+ years ago but I can't think of any recent examples either other than the short lived Animal + Heidenreich LOD either. Promotions now are much more likely to just give a guy a new partner when necessary but not continue the old team's name/gimmick. Two examples last year that immediately come to mind were when BJ Whitmer replaced Kenny King as Rhett Titus's partner in ROH they were never billed as the All Night Xpress, and in NJPW when Rocky Romero and Alex Koslov formed the Forever Hooligans after Davey Richards left breaking up the NRC. Thauros fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Apr 27, 2013 |
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sticklefifer posted:When was the last time a tag team either replaced a member, or broke up and one guy got a different partner for a "new" team? Would Rick Steiner count for 1998? Not exactly the last time, but it's one I remember that hasn't been mentioned. What about Harlem Heat 2000?
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sticklefifer posted:When was the last time a tag team either replaced a member, or broke up and one guy got a different partner for a "new" team? Does Jericho replacing Edge with Big Show count?
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Rather famously way back in the day, Ole Anderson replaced Thunderbolt Patterson (while they were tag champs!) with his cousin from Minnesota....Arn. More recently, they later did a similar angle with Cody Rhodes while he was tag champs with Bob Holly. Ted Dibiase challenged them and had a mystery partner, and the partner turned out to be Cody himself. They beat the crap out of Bob, pinned him, and Priceless were the new tag champs. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 27, 2013 |
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...that doesn't make sense on so many levels. If Cody was officially on both teams, couldn't he have pinned himself? And then who would be the champs? 
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DeathChicken posted:...that doesn't make sense on so many levels. If Cody was officially on both teams, couldn't he have pinned himself? And then who would be the champs? By eating the pin but also getting it Cody would have forced a draw and no title change would have occurred just as if 2 separate competitors had simultaneously pinned each other. The WWE thinks of everything.
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They actually explained the "cody on both sides" thing in one of the WWE magazines at the time and it stuck in my mind because it made Holly out to look like the biggest idiot. Holly signed the contract for the match without looking at it thus not realising that he was booked in a handicap match for the tag titles.
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Skinty McEdger posted:They actually explained the "cody on both sides" thing in one of the WWE magazines at the time and it stuck in my mind because it made Holly out to look like the biggest idiot. Holly signed the contract for the match without looking at it thus not realising that he was booked in a handicap match for the tag titles. This is a thing that Bob Holly would do, yes.
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Rarity posted:This is a thing that Bob Holly would do, yes. They could have told him the mystery partner was Cody and Bobcore still would jump at the chance to take his jobber frustrations out.
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Gonz posted:A WWE featuring nothing but heels would be a fascinating thing to watch. This is pretty much how I would describe the Attitude Era.
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Bard Maddox posted:He yells SHAH when he punches. I choose to think its his homage to Hack Meyers.
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Gonz posted:A WWE featuring nothing but heels would be a fascinating thing to watch. nwo souled out. it was poo poo
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Alright, I've seen this used, but I don't know what people mean when they talk about Kane 'corpsing.' What is it? edit: Vvv thanks! Deep Thoreau fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Apr 28, 2013 |
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Corpsing is when someone 'breaks character' during a promo or segment, usually by laughing. Like if Kane's supposed to be stoic in a backstage segment with Bryan, but Bryan starts doing goofy things to the point of making Kane laugh, Kane would be corpsing.
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More specifically, it was named for when actors were supposed to be playing dead, but couldn't maintain a straight face and started giggling.
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Here is a documentary on the Extra dvd all about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiRrEDraHqY
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