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2000 is really really good. Also 2013, which was a pretty great event.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2014 14:39 |
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 19:10 |
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Smoking Crow posted:It's ok if Regal didn't get really strung out at the end of the gimmick, it would have been revealed that he was gay and compensating by being a lumberjack This is not "ok"
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2014 03:56 |
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What actually is this? I've seen it mentioned but never with any details.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2014 02:31 |
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So I've been going back and reading some GDT, which has been pretty fun. It got me wondering: What's the consensus worst Raw and worst PPV since WH2000 became PSP? I'd be interested in reading the reactions at the time.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2014 22:33 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:That was the episode where the segments aired out of order, so the reveal of Jarrett as one of the Villanos happened half an hour before the actual match took place. Sometimes I wonder how Nitro even made it to air
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2014 19:58 |
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ICHIBAHN posted:Given that he's the best pure striker in the wwe, what was the explanation for the undertaker not taking part in brawl for all? Didny suit his character / push? they didn't want a star to get hurt
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2015 10:15 |
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Has the "Literal King of the Ring" gimmick gotten over for anyone since the Macho King? The silence King Barrett walked out to last night was unbearable.
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# ¿ May 12, 2015 22:26 |
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How is the answer anything but Hogan/Sid? The finish is a DQ from a botched run-in
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# ¿ May 26, 2015 16:41 |
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Smoking Crow posted:What the gently caress was up with the Miss NWO contest at Souled Out? Was it an ironic thing? I assume it was meant to get heat by depriving the audience of sexy women? Maybe? It just made the nWo look even more like posers
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# ¿ May 30, 2015 04:43 |
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Why did Heyman fire them when he could have booked them in a match with the Gangstas? Seems shortsighted IMO
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2015 10:55 |
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The World's Largest Athlete The Big Show Paul "Big Nasty" Wight would have a quarrel with that, dude
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2015 01:36 |
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The real question for me is how does Sable live Does she get to have a phone
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2015 20:07 |
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HHH with Batista should go in there
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2015 21:44 |
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In what universe does that information begin with "to be fair"?
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2015 22:51 |
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Imagine face "doctor of thuganomics" John Cena beating cowardly heel Booker T at Wrestlemania to win his first world title
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2015 23:24 |
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DynamiteKidd posted:Do you have any idea how easily you could have simply searched "david flair titantron" and found out for yourself Actually bc of all the fan versions you cite here it's not so easy to know it's legit from a Google search as you demonstrated yourself But yes the David Flair titantron that is just his name, him standing around, and Ric Flair looking underwhelmed is the legit one used in his one WWE match
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2015 17:44 |
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Tito Santana was nothing but garbage.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2015 05:12 |
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It's weird that came up for Al's toy at the same time the Rock was giving Rock Bottoms to Stephanie on the reg
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2015 21:41 |
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Genius was a fine wrestler in his own right, so while his push may have been above his talent level (1-0 against Hogan!) I doubt that the other wrestlers would perceive his employment as solely a favor to Macho. He'd been in the business something like 15 years at that point. And even if they did think he was just a favor to Macho, why would they make shoot gay jokes about the straight brother of their second biggest star? You're being worked, JACK
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2015 09:28 |
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D-Bry and THE RYBACK were travel buddies, which gave us the great Panera story. Same with Kofi Kingston and CM Punk, who would often refer to Kofi as his "road wife"
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2015 12:40 |
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Trollologist posted:
This makes very little sense and, respectfully, makes me wonder if you really should be running a wrestling business. Workers should be compensated for the revenue they generate for the company. What money was the Brooklyn Brawler generating for WWF in 1988? What money was Macho Man, World Champion, generating? Paying them the same even though one is the centerpiece of your organization and the other is a jobber having two minute matches is only going to have the effect of losing you Macho Man. It's also a ridiculous idea because no, actually, booking wasn't the only thing keeping the Brawler from being a 16 time champion. Sure , they could have done it in theory, but there are tangible skills like work rate and promo ability as well as intangible traits like charisma and image that a champion requires and a jobber doesn't. Brawler didn't have those. A champion Brawler would have bankrupted the company. If you don't understand this, should you be running a wrestling promotion when your other major idea is to make it more like 2000 WCW? E: more specifically with merch, WWF is moving 100,000 Hulkamania shirts because the fans love and admire Hulk Hogan. Why should Brawler get that money? The disparity will obviously be much less on a random indie with mostly no-names, but if you're ever going to be profitable some limited number of your wrestlers will be the draws of the company. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for profit sharing plans and fair payment and the current model in mainstream wrestling is absurdly exploitative of the workers. But suggesting that no one wrestler has more value than any other and thus they should all be compensated the same is also exploitative of the men and women who will end up doing the most work in your company. Pinstripe Hourglass fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Sep 29, 2015 |
# ¿ Sep 29, 2015 20:30 |
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At the end of his US title run Dean was stuffing half of the belt he never defended down his pants. It was awesome.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2016 20:45 |
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Impact isn't on the Network.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2016 08:09 |
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MassRafTer posted:Yes, and as you imply he would still try it and
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2016 19:27 |
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checksin posted:Is there a not-gonna-happen match today that would be greater than Tanahashi vs Cena plucky champ Bryan vs monster challenger Lesnar is a match I'll never get over not getting
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2016 01:30 |
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Helped that, for whatever reason, Hogan sold for him on TV more than he had any heel since Andre
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2016 09:00 |
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Obvious example, but Macho worked 4 matches at WrestleMania 4 including the main event. Liz came out in a different dress for each one, which was a great touch. Mankind and the Rock also each worked 4 matches at the Deadly Games tournament at Survivor Series 98, culminating in a pretty nasty main event against each other, but for both of them that includes a >1 minute squash/flash pin in the first round. "Ladies and gentlemen.... DUANE GILL!"
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2016 22:39 |
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I'll have you know Lanny Poffo is 1-0 against Hulk Hogan!
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2016 09:17 |
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That had nothing to do with any extent that the Goldust character "worked" because almost all of his matches were heatless snoozes. He was entirely reliant on the gay character stuff for reactions, and once they removed that and turned him face he lost any ground he had.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 07:36 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Shocking that wrestling audiences didn't know what to make of a bizarre glam rock throwback character until they were given clear instructions to hate him. The Undertaker matches are all terrible, and the audiences for those matches and the Ramon matches stopped reacting the moment he stopped touching himself and started wrestling. Dustin absolutely put his all into the character, but so did Papa Shango. The instant he toned down the gay schtick (because GLAAD made them) no one cared. A month after he turned face Marlena was more over than him.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2016 16:00 |
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For worst wrestler with no excuse I'd go with Mr. Kennedy/Anderson. He was a decent worker, decent talker, and he got pushed seriously in two companies, but he never made himself a star. It's one of the only clear-cut cases I can think of where a guy was given opportunities, had everything going for him, and never hit home.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2016 04:39 |
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That's insane. Beefcake never meant anything for business; Warrior, Andre, Savage, Piper and even Orndorf did. He was never going to be the number two face while those guys were around. And even if they weren't, Dibiase and Roberts would have surpassed him.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2016 15:18 |
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The Hogan title matches are fun for what they are, Hogan losing to and then slaying the monster. But I'm a big (WWF-era) Hogan apologist.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2016 01:38 |
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Mankind was a masochist, Cactus Jack was a sadist. Most of Mankind's matches were built around him withstanding punishment, Jack's were built around him dishing it out. Dude Love was a loser, and all of his matches were built around him losing.
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# ¿ Jan 22, 2017 21:42 |
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Great Power Uti
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 00:15 |
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THE HELIOCENTRIC COMMUNITY!?
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 22:54 |
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Bret Hart did table spots in several of his big matches starting around 94. They got huge reactions.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2017 07:35 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Here's a question, and I expect MRT would likely know this: did ANYBODY peg Hogan as a possibility of being the 3rd man leading up to BATB '96? Or did WCW get it right when it counted and keep that poo poo on a need to know basis? Bobby Heenan
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 17:50 |
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Luger only had good matches when he was carried by workhorses like Tatanka
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# ¿ May 4, 2017 04:49 |
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 19:10 |
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Shawn's 1996 run drew big houses, actually, just not ratings or PPV buys. So while he wasn't an out and out success, he was hardly a failure like Diesel.
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