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Was Randy Savage considered a great technical wrestler? I know CM Punk idolizes him, though I guess when you mark for someone as a kid it doesn't necessarily have to be because they're good. The MMA challenge Punk issued to Chris Brown shortly after he brutalized Rihanna is weird to me in this context, given Savage's notoriety as a wife beater.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2013 08:32 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 20:10 |
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The commentary on the Rhodeses / Shield match at Battlegrounds was pretty good, I thought. But yeah, otherwise Michael Cole is a bore with a boring soul patch
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2013 19:56 |
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Makes me miss the AKI wrestling games, it was listed as "Hangman's DDT" in No Mercy. I guess the new WWE game is going to get the Rainmaker and Burning Hammer in a few months, but it's just not the same.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2013 05:09 |
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re: X-Pac heat, Bo Dallas had in NXT for awhile til he turned into a pretty rad Kurt Angle-style "everybody loves me!" heel. The Ascension are surely bound for that distinction as well, though at this point the crowd's more ambivalent than hostile.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2013 13:14 |
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A hot tag is actually when a face is getting kept out of his corner / beat down, and manages to tag in his partner in with his last ounce of strength. His partner then immediately goes on a "house on fire" offensive against the heels. One of the better common pops. Bryan got the hot tag in for Punk last Raw.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2013 03:02 |
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Red posted:It seems like he's the only guy Del Rio can have good matches with. OneThousandMonkeys posted:I am unclear on why Christian disappeared down the rabbit hole after Orton/Christian. I really believe that the guys they're building up at NXT will help out the WWE when the next round of full-time retirements comes around. By all means we can grumble about physiques and NFL washouts and on and on, but I think it's a bit ridiculous to worry that the current main event class is going to be the last to ever be over. Really I think it's out of their hands. The WWE needs something that's going to put wrestling in the general public eye again.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2013 23:43 |
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The answer is always Diesel.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2013 06:00 |
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Not counting Taker's hulking out of the Anaconda Vice?
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2013 05:12 |
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It's the same eternal fandom vs. publisher conflict you see in gaming, right down to the "we only consume the product illegally because we hate it" argument
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2013 01:16 |
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So Taker has a year or two more in him, right? Who would be a legit final opponent, and is it possible that they'd go over and break the streak?
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2013 10:15 |
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It would have to come down to Taker himself I assume. He's definitely not Triple H but it's conceivable (and within his right) that he would like to end his run with the streak intact. I don't even know if the streak is of personal significance to him. Having Taker sign off on the job would also be the only thing that would add legitimacy to the win, tbh. I feel like a lot of people will see / hear about Taker's loss and instinctively feel like they hosed up big time. Nobody likes the full-time main eventers and still fewer people would accept the streak being broken by a rising star ("why him?" etc). And given the WWE's history over the last 10 years or so, no way would they hand a hot prospect that kind of an opportunity. That's the sort of match that you're immediately associated with forever, no matter what you go on to do, or how badly you gently caress up.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2013 11:38 |
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Can we stretch "return" to include Tito Ortiz coming to TNA? I mean we probably can't, but his reveal surely counts among the most entertaining television moments of my life.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2013 07:21 |
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Bryan's or the original? With Bryan's, just like they've been hit about the chest and face with a wrecking ball. Cena sold it superbly the first time out
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2013 09:18 |
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So the CM Punk / Jeff Hardy feud. I wasn't around for it. Was it well known by then that Hardy was pretty deep into addiction? It seems crazy to me that the WWE would not only vociferously deny rumors / facts, but incorporate it into a feud (and make him a face, no less). I understand that was a big point of friction and contributed to his leaving the company (refusing rehab obviously being the bigger factor). What's the deal?
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 07:59 |
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You don't really have to be a nazi to be racist, you know. There's nothing terribly quaint about "spic it up", that's pretty straightforward as these things go.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2013 11:33 |
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I preferred the ponderousness of No Mercy over the arcade-y speed of Smackdown. It gave the character models a feeling of weight and mass despite there being no physics engine to speak of, which made move impacts really satisfying (the sound design helped too). Most modern games made on Unreal Engine 3 don't have that kind of weight. By contrast, in Smackdown you could awkwardly launch opponents over the top rope in any number of ludicrous and glitchy-looking ways. If you hit a ground attack on an opponent while they were getting up they would jerkily slam back on the mat as though they'd just been hit with a powerbomb and bounce halfway across the ring. It was terrible.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2014 07:09 |
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Supreme Allah posted:I didn't forget about this, I'm still looking but any combination of words after 'CM punk promo' bring up pages of talk about his famous promos. I tried 'punk promo bumps match', 'punk promo long', and a bunch of crap. I'll pick it up later because I know it came up in a GDT when it happened.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2014 05:15 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Dammit people, the puppets part of Vince's song has nothing to do with the previous line. It's "PUPPETS! Will find their place in line..."
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2014 21:59 |
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Bigass Moth posted:I definitely remember a gimmicked rubber sledgehammer at some point in the early 2000s that bent when HHH swung it. Regarding Ryder, didn't he have a "proving" promo with Bryan and Punk that he completely whiffed? It seems like Ryder's story isn't the tragedy so many burials are made out to be, he kind of half-dug the grave himself. He doesn't get much TV time at this point but afaik he's still an active low-card face on the house show circuit, getting most of his old spots in before jobbing to Ambrose or whoever.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2014 23:04 |
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I imagine fake punching is much easier on an aging body (that ages harder than most) than chokeslamming dudes, at any rate.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2014 23:25 |
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sticklefifer posted:I've also been surprised that Erick Rowan of all people somehow works really well with Rey Mysterio, despite looking clumsy with nearly everyone else.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2014 02:18 |
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If the WWE scoffed at Ziggler at the top it's hard to imagine anyone in the current midcard going very far. Cesaro was able to super-hoss his way up but I'd call that an exception.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2014 04:25 |
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MassRafTer posted:People in the current midcard also don't go against WWE's wishes in the ring and on social media like Ziggler does.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2014 04:40 |
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I imagine they use kendo sticks because you can hit smack a dude with one and it sounds / looks pretty sick even if it's gimmicked. Safer than a chair, right?
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2014 06:10 |
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A+ Freudian slip there
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2014 21:18 |
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He also worked enough of a different style from his Dead Man gimmick that he kind of showed his limitations imo. As has been said, he had bad matches with Kurt Angle, which is challenging
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2014 05:33 |
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I thought the premise was that Ric Flair injured Rhodes thus effectively putting him out of work (in kayfabe). So he's going to get what's his.
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# ¿ May 9, 2014 01:43 |
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It's pretty simple (A) I'm just like you, the working man, who is experiencing Hard Times (B) If you want to see Ric Flair get his rear end kicked, come pay to see it happen. The ad-lib about Flair is not nearly as confusing as the man who died 10 or 12 years ago.
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# ¿ May 9, 2014 02:00 |
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According to No Mercy it's this totally intentional not-at-all-botched move https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D86u6FzuL5k
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2014 09:50 |
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Luger might have had poo poo luck with booking shifts but he was always a bad promo and aside from the rack I don't remember his ringwork being too good either.RacistGuidingLight posted:It's unfair to compare the Attitude Era to anything else cuz the Attitude Era came at an absolute cultural dirge. There was nothing. Grunge and alternative music went as far as it would go and there was no more new Seinfeld. Nothing worth watching or talking about unless some mouth breather wants to bring up some dumb niche thing they liked at the time that no one wants to talk about. Like the Attitude Era of pro wrestling.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2014 05:09 |
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Adamle?
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2014 05:17 |
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Ventura put over the face talent as a heel commentator, which JBL rarely does and heel Cole NEVER did. At MitB 2011 Cole just screamed NERRRRD whenever focus shifted to Bryan. Ventura would've objected to made-up unfair advantages but would also talk up ability and heart, etc etc. I was watching a steamboat/macho man bout the other day and that's basically what Ventura did, praise Steamboat while fearmongering about how unsafe his striking style was.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2014 12:34 |
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sticklefifer posted:Is Mark Henry injured yet again or is he just doing limited dates now? I feel like he could get away with the latter, or tagging with Big Show as an Attitude Era holdover Twin Towers or something.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2014 12:28 |
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Is there some reason that wrestlers in the 80's tended to use orchestral music in their intros, beyond the fact that they were probably cheap / free to use? I'd assume there isn't. I'd totally forgotten that Macho Man came out to "Pomp and Circumstance" and it does not make any loving sense to me.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2014 02:01 |
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You gotta show the promos in the weeks leading up to it, though, particularly the one that the slaps call back to.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2014 12:18 |
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I think that vastly overstates the importance of TNA at this or any point in its life. I wouldn't think it any better regarded than CZW in terms of salience to the mainstream. Most non-marks will probably be surprised TNA was still in business in 2014, if they remember it at all. The obstacles to Vince's total supremacy are more profound and mundane than a shoestring fed filled with Kurt Angle and various over the hill ex-WWE midcarders. He has to contend with the stagnation of the mainstream business in general and his attempts to reinvigorate it through new media. The death of TNA means nothing. The smark alternative to WWE is clearly NJPW and Vince doesn't care to compete with him, nor should he. They're not in the same market.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2014 10:14 |
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Reks' was basically just an inverted Attitude Adjustment, though.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 06:03 |
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Tokyo Slutty Gal posted:When matches can only end with finishers you need to start kicking out of them to have believable near falls. This is a problem for both WWE and NJPW right now. Anyway, the protected status of a move doesn't really factor in the context of a good match as it's watched anyhow, so it matters little in general beyond a "linear championship"-style arbitrary ranking impulse Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Aug 1, 2014 |
# ¿ Aug 1, 2014 08:32 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What wrestler(s) did you absolutely despise as a kid that you now love and appreciate?
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2014 22:42 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 20:10 |
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Insane Clown Posse used to dub old Japanese deathmatches. It's how the ICP / Terry Funk story came about. Growing up in the midwest I knew a juggalo or two and I think we watched a tape once. I remember Cactus Jack was in it.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2014 06:09 |