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the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
What do you guys say to people who want to hire you for event photography if you've never done something like that before?

I had a friend at a social gathering tell me that they've seen my photos on facebook (from when I tag friends) and that they're "amazing" and that I should do event photography.

I'm a modest person, and I know that people overstate things, so I told them thanks and if they had any people they knew to tell them to contact me.

I've done one wedding before, and I explicitly told the person that they should hire a second photographer and that I would do it for free. I just don't feel comfortable enough in my abilities to do such an event as a "professional."

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Medpak
Dec 26, 2011

Considering what horrible wedding photographers we have all seen our friends hire. I'm sure you'll do fine. Work out way beforehand what they expect/want and price accordingly. The same goes for any event really. I've done 'events' for friends as a backup photographer under the guise that they were just getting either raws or jpgs from me with very little post done to them. If they wanted 'more' than that then it would cost money. It's so situational that it's hard to set a hard and fast rule to follow.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster
:nws: for plunging cleavage, but how is a photo like this taken? just a bright flash at close distance? does it matter on the type of flash? I notice there's a slight vignetting around the edges as well.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

the posted:

:nws: for plunging cleavage, but how is a photo like this taken? just a bright flash at close distance? does it matter on the type of flash? I notice there's a slight vignetting around the edges as well.

mutha fuckin' T-rich in da hooouse.

it's just on axis flash. you can do it by shooting right next to a bare studio head, or with an on camera flash.

I have been experimenting with that style recently and it's a really fun way to distill a photoshop down to just you and the mod.



I shoot about f5.6 1/125 on ETTL.

You can see more of the set at http://blog.smread.com/2012/02/lauren-in-raw.html - hope that helps.

A lot of people use brackets to make the flash even more on-axis

Paragon8 fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Feb 8, 2012

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

the posted:

:nws: for plunging cleavage, but how is a photo like this taken? just a bright flash at close distance? does it matter on the type of flash? I notice there's a slight vignetting around the edges as well.

Ring flash!

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Paragon8 posted:

mutha fuckin' T-rich in da hooouse.


This might not be the right thread for it, but I get really uncomfortable anytime people say good things about Terry Richards.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

a foolish pianist posted:

This might not be the right thread for it, but I get really uncomfortable anytime people say good things about Terry Richards.

Well, this is a general photography question for you then: why does Terry Richards make you feel uncomfortable?

RangerScum
Apr 6, 2006

lol hey there buddy
More important is "Who the hell is Terry Richards?!"

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

RangerScum posted:

More important is "Who the hell is Terry Richards?!"

Terry Richardson's father.

but on a more serious note, I don't think anyone has actually taken Terry Richardson to court or proved anything beyond an unsubstantiated allegation. Certainly his status in the industry might be something that encourages young models to keep quiet for fear of a backlash which is a bad thing. However people have accused established photographers with proof and gotten them convicted and black listed from the industry like Lee Cropper in the UK.

Fashion photography is a bit weird and sexually charged sometimes. I was talking with a girl that shot with a famous fashion photographer who opened up their dialogue with "You look like a girl that cums easy." Okay a bit weird but the pictures look great and that's probably part of his method in getting a model into a mindset where he thinks he takes the best pictures. I mainly ask them about geeky things like what their favourite pokemon is.

Just by the type of people that work with Terry Richardson again and again I highly doubt that every shoot of his is a rape orgy. I could imagine he's a weird guy and to some people that might come off as creepy and weird and they probably don't know how to respond to that and end up feeling coerced to go along with the vibe of the room.

Paragon8 fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Feb 8, 2012

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Paragon8 posted:

Just by the type of people that work with Terry Richardson again and again I highly doubt that every shoot of his is a rape orgy. I could imagine he's a weird guy and to some people that might come off as creepy and weird and they probably don't know how to respond to that and end up feeling coerced to go along with the vibe of the room.

Oh, I wouldn't make any claims as strong as 'rape orgy,' but the stories from some of his models make him sound like he uses his position to get vulnerable younger woman to perform various sex acts for him.

He hasn't been arrested, sure, but there's enough stuff like this:

quote:

This is where I zoom out on the situation. I can remember doing this stuff, but even at the time, it was sort of like watching someone else do it, someone who couldn’t possibly be me because I would never touch a creepy photographer’s penis. The only explanation I can come up with is that he was so darn friendly and happy about it all, and his assistants were so stoked on it as well, that I didn’t want to be the killjoy in the room. My new fake friends would’ve been bummed if I’d said no.

I must have said something about finals, because he told me, “if you make me come, you get an A.” So I did! Pretty fast, I might add. All over my left hand. His assistant handed me a towel.

and this:

quote:

He first asked me to play with myself, and just made really creepy demands.

He said it wasn't pornish because he was shooting still shots, and when I said that I felt like he was seeing if I was just dumb, he handed me the camera and said, "Fine you should [shoot] me playing with myself."

I mean his assistants were like, "Do you think all these celebrities would take pictures with him if it was porn?"

Then he said to take pictures of him touching me.

Eventually, he had me go down on him and took pictures of him coming on my face, which I had never done before, and when I went to the bathroom to clean up I could hear him and an assistant joking about it which is when I decided to never tell anyone.

to suggest that there are a lot more out there who won't come forward for fear of damaging their careers. Further, the defenses of his behavior to tend to look like this:

http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/blog/terry-richardson-raped-me-too/

which is disgusting and dismissive in the worst sort of "I, an older white male didn't get raped, so these girls claiming to feel abused are just making poo poo up" way. I have to acknowledge that the defense isn't from Richardson, though, so it's not his fault.

Anyway, not abusing your position to gain sexual favors from vulnerable young people is a characteristic that I value pretty highly, and Richardson pretty clearly fails that test.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I don't really like Richardson as a person because of most of these allegations and it is frustrating that you are almost obligated to defend him as a person if you like his work which I do.

People can be terrible individuals and still contribute works of merit. Look at Roman Polanski.

I would be wary at trying to crucify a guy for serious crimes based on a Jezebel article however.

Richardson should definitely clean up his act, I know I feel like I have to tread on eggshells sometimes on shoots. At the end of the day I am achieving good results asking about a model's favourite tv show, or about where she's from instead of asking them if they like to gently caress or what their favourite way to cum is so why can't Richardson and some of the other photographers I've heard stories about?

I've assisted on shoots with a lot of nudity and provocative poses and it's been totally professional and the most crass thing on set is "push your bum out a bit"





Paragon8 fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Feb 9, 2012

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Paragon8 posted:

I've assisted on shoots with a lot of nudity and provocative poses and it's been totally professional and the most crass thing on set is "push your bum out a bit"

I showed my wife how incredibly unsexy post-procesing photos of scantily clad women is. Yeah, that model looks good, but pretty gruesome at 600x magnification.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Women definitely don't seem so sexy when you're retouching their pubic razor burn at 300% :(

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Paragon8 posted:

I don't really like Richardson as a person because of most of these allegations and it is frustrating that you are almost obligated to defend him as a person if you like his work which I do.

People can be terrible individuals and still contribute works of merit. Look at Roman Polanski.

I would be wary at trying to crucify a guy for serious crimes based on a Jezebel article however.

Richardson should definitely clean up his act, I know I feel like I have to tread on eggshells sometimes on shoots. At the end of the day I am achieving good results asking about a model's favourite tv show, or about where she's from instead of asking them if they like to gently caress or what their favourite way to cum is so why can't Richardson and some of the other photographers I've heard stories about?

I've assisted on shoots with a lot of nudity and provocative poses and it's been totally professional and the most crass thing on set is "push your bum out a bit"

I actually had a paragraph in my reply up there about Polanski, but I couldn't quite articulate why I think the situations are a bit different. I think I've got it now, though. Polanski's crimes are unrelated to the production of his art, while Richardson's bad behavior (again, I'm not accusing him of the same sorts of crimes that Polanski is guilty of) is tied directly to the way he takes his photographs. Of course, I also don't go see Polanski's films, and I'd be pretty uncomfortable hearing people praise him as well.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Yeah, I mean honestly I don't like it when a photographer's personality or celebrity exceeds their work so I would fault Richardson on that even if his alleged behaviour wasn't as extreme as it's reported. If it is true then I think that definitely sends a message about our culture. I think almost every industry has people that take advantage of power relationships, just with photography it's essentially a stereotype.

It's unfortunate that there is nobody in a position to tell Richardson to cool the poo poo off. Although I imagine on bigger productions there might be. I think it's entirely possible to produce the kind of work he does without being a pervert - I mean Ellen Von Unwerth's work is muuuch more provocative and sexy than Terry's but I doubt most people know what she looks like, let alone her personality.

I still think that it's dangerous to really label Richardson right now as anything more than weird and being a creepy pervert, whereas Polanski can't enter the US because of the strength of evidence against him. I think Richardson is being naive if he thinks that his whacky antics won't offend the wrong person eventually but if he's made it this far I think he's probably savvy enough not to whip his dick out in front of a H&M exec.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Paragon8 posted:

It's unfortunate that there is nobody in a position to tell Richardson to cool the poo poo off. Although I imagine on bigger productions there might be.

I don't think so because if it's a bigger production, that means the people hiring him spent a shitload of money specifically to get him so he could theoretically tell them to gently caress off if they tried to put a cap on it.

I mean as creepy as he might be, it seems like at the very least he's professional enough to turn out decent quality material in a timely manner.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

HPL posted:

I don't think so because if it's a bigger production, that means the people hiring him spent a shitload of money specifically to get him so he could theoretically tell them to gently caress off if they tried to put a cap on it.

I mean as creepy as he might be, it seems like at the very least he's professional enough to turn out decent quality material in a timely manner.

Yeah, I mean I suppose that's a point in his favour. That I doubt if there was hard evidence against him, the huge brands that hire him probably wouldn't. There have some been big names that have been black balled for far less than what Richardson stands accused of.

Hotwax Residue
Mar 26, 2010
I have been asked to photograph some art to be used on a promotional vehicle but I'm not sure how to go about it. The 2 paintings are about 8ft long and the photo needs to be 3ft long @300dpi. My camera is a 5D1 so I guess I'm going to have to do a panorama type thing?

INTJ Mastermind
Dec 30, 2004

It's a radial!
Assuming you have uniform lighting. Use a tripod, mark off a line parallel with the artwork and take a panorama by moving the tripod down the line, keeping the lens perpendicular to the piece.

Tactical Mistake
May 11, 2011

Planning Ahead Strategically
I've got a pretty general question. I'm shooting a restaurant opening tomorrow and I'm used to outdoor shooting. I've got a 50mm, a 18-75mm kit lens, a nice flash and a tripod. What should I be using/doing tomorrow for the opening? How should I be using the flash in a restaurant? They gave me license to do whatever for the party.

INTJ Mastermind
Dec 30, 2004

It's a radial!
I would just take the 18-75 and the flash. 50mm is too tight for indoors. Bounce the flash off the ceiling. A diffuser / bounce card might help if you have it. Gelling to match ambient light temp will make more professional results if you have access to that.

INTJ Mastermind fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Feb 21, 2012

thevoiceofdog
Jul 19, 2009

Terminally ambivalent.
I've got some questions about making a new portfolio, since I didn't see any other threads specifically about designing them.

Ok, here's the deal. I am going for a not-quite-interview-but-still-important-visitation-thing at a government agency. The job is mostly technical/scientific and less artistic but they still want to see a portfolio to 'know that I can shoot.' A few concerns of mine:

Prints: I plan on printing 11x14 at least, 13x19 would probably be too expensive for me right now. What websites do you guys use for online printing? I've never done it before and I'm not really sure where to look. Most people seem to recommend smugmug, but don't you need a membership there to buy prints?

Layout: I know the general rule is to keep everything the same orientation, but the problem with my current set of images is that they're nearly 50/50 portrait and landscape. My instincts tell me I would probably want to pair up some of the portrait images and place them together on the same print, what is the general consensus on this? Should I be printing larger (13x19) if I'm going to be printing portrait images in a landscape orientation?

The actual portfolio: This seems like the most difficult part, at least financially. I don't really want to break the bank on this but I know it's key to making a good impression. I love the look of the leather and metal bound folder-book portfolios but know it'll cost a ton to do that at 11x14 or 13x19. Are there other options that are less expensive but still look professional? I figure I could always upgrade to a nicer folio when I have more cash/apply to a more artistic position in the future. What sites do you guys recommend for portfolios?

That's about it. If there's a better thread for this let me know.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

thevoiceofdog posted:

I've got some questions about making a new portfolio, since I didn't see any other threads specifically about designing them.

Ok, here's the deal. I am going for a not-quite-interview-but-still-important-visitation-thing at a government agency. The job is mostly technical/scientific and less artistic but they still want to see a portfolio to 'know that I can shoot.' A few concerns of mine:

Prints: I plan on printing 11x14 at least, 13x19 would probably be too expensive for me right now. What websites do you guys use for online printing? I've never done it before and I'm not really sure where to look. Most people seem to recommend smugmug, but don't you need a membership there to buy prints?

Layout: I know the general rule is to keep everything the same orientation, but the problem with my current set of images is that they're nearly 50/50 portrait and landscape. My instincts tell me I would probably want to pair up some of the portrait images and place them together on the same print, what is the general consensus on this? Should I be printing larger (13x19) if I'm going to be printing portrait images in a landscape orientation?

The actual portfolio: This seems like the most difficult part, at least financially. I don't really want to break the bank on this but I know it's key to making a good impression. I love the look of the leather and metal bound folder-book portfolios but know it'll cost a ton to do that at 11x14 or 13x19. Are there other options that are less expensive but still look professional? I figure I could always upgrade to a nicer folio when I have more cash/apply to a more artistic position in the future. What sites do you guys recommend for portfolios?

That's about it. If there's a better thread for this let me know.

Hey, I wrote a post about this sort of on my blog - http://blog.smread.com/2011/10/printing-work-is-very-daunting-with.htmlit might be helpful!

door looker
Jan 29, 2011
Hruh
I'm hoping some of you knowledgable folks here can help me. I'm in an...interesting situation.

I work as a journalist and lately the paper I work for has been asking me to provide accompanying photos for the articles I write. The paper is small-time so they don't have in-house photographers.

The problem is I know almost nothing about photography. I'm looking for suggestions on books--I need a book on composition and general techniques and I'd also like a book that talks about the specifics of photojournalism.

I know that my boss would accept whatever shlock I popped out of my camera, but I actually want to do a good job and maybe learn a thing or two.

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

door looker posted:

I'm hoping some of you knowledgable folks here can help me. I'm in an...interesting situation.

I work as a journalist and lately the paper I work for has been asking me to provide accompanying photos for the articles I write. The paper is small-time so they don't have in-house photographers.

The problem is I know almost nothing about photography. I'm looking for suggestions on books--I need a book on composition and general techniques and I'd also like a book that talks about the specifics of photojournalism.

I know that my boss would accept whatever shlock I popped out of my camera, but I actually want to do a good job and maybe learn a thing or two.

Understanding Exposure

The Photographer's Eye

Are the two books that most will recommend for starters. I have them as well and they are quick and easy reads - as well as providing examples.

As for photojournalism, others might be better suited to recommending a book for you.

thevoiceofdog
Jul 19, 2009

Terminally ambivalent.

Paragon8 posted:

Hey, I wrote a post about this sort of on my blog - http://blog.smread.com/2011/10/printing-work-is-very-daunting-with.htmlit might be helpful!

Thank you. No one else has recommendations for printing?

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006
After a quick glance at Paragon8's blog, he basically said what I'm going to, but I'll repeat it anyway: If there's a local lab, use it. You get to talk to a human being, you can ask all the questions you want, you have someone to yell at if they gently caress it up, and you support a small local business.

Don't know if there's a local lab? Pick up the phone, call three commercial photographers (wedding and portrait guys want their margins), and ask them if there's a local lab they'd recommend.

If you've absolutely got to print using an online vendor, I'd probably use WHCC or Miller's. Free candy pushes WHCC over the line for me.

Tactical Mistake
May 11, 2011

Planning Ahead Strategically
Are some polarizing filters better than others? How come some are $3.99 with good reviews and some are $189?

Shmoogy
Mar 21, 2007

Tactical Mistake posted:

Are some polarizing filters better than others? How come some are $3.99 with good reviews and some are $189?

Yes, there are definite differences in quality between cheap and high end filters. The cheap ones are not working using as they will degrade optical quality, have potentially uneven coatings, and are just crap.

Here is a test some site did with a massive amount of filters, you can see the differences between cheap and good ones:

http://www.lenstip.com/115.1-article-Polarizing_filters_test_Introduction.html

door looker
Jan 29, 2011
Hruh

geeves posted:

Understanding Exposure

The Photographer's Eye

Are the two books that most will recommend for starters. I have them as well and they are quick and easy reads - as well as providing examples.

As for photojournalism, others might be better suited to recommending a book for you.

Thanks. That's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.

thevoiceofdog
Jul 19, 2009

Terminally ambivalent.

Molten Llama posted:

After a quick glance at Paragon8's blog, he basically said what I'm going to, but I'll repeat it anyway: If there's a local lab, use it. You get to talk to a human being, you can ask all the questions you want, you have someone to yell at if they gently caress it up, and you support a small local business.

Don't know if there's a local lab? Pick up the phone, call three commercial photographers (wedding and portrait guys want their margins), and ask them if there's a local lab they'd recommend.

If you've absolutely got to print using an online vendor, I'd probably use WHCC or Miller's. Free candy pushes WHCC over the line for me.

I don't know why I didn't do that before, there's one that looks pretty high end very close to me. Hell not even just for the printing I should be applying for a drat job there. Thanks for the reminder!

spf3million
Sep 27, 2007

hit 'em with the rhythm

Shmoogy posted:

Yes, there are definite differences in quality between cheap and high end filters. The cheap ones are not working using as they will degrade optical quality, have potentially uneven coatings, and are just crap.

Here is a test some site did with a massive amount of filters, you can see the differences between cheap and good ones:

http://www.lenstip.com/115.1-article-Polarizing_filters_test_Introduction.html
For what it's worth, I bought the Marumi DHG Super Circular P.L.D 72mm based on this website and I'm not all that impressed. It seems like the review was done by physicists, not photographers.

Malalol
Apr 4, 2007

I spent $1,000 on my computer but I'm too "poor" to take my dog or any of my animals to the vet for vet care. My neglect caused 1 of my birds to die prematurely! My dog pisses everywhere! I don't care! I'm a piece of shit! Don't believe me? Check my post history in Pet Island!
Help please!!!!!!!
im on vacation right now and my lens is stuck! Canon 40d and tamron 70-300. Its the lens at fault, pretty sure its falling apart, i hear something loose inside if i move it around, it got stuck zooming today between 180-300. And now i cant take it off.

No access to random stuff and i would really really like to use my general lens by monday :( SOL?
Im trying to twidt back and forth, pushing, doing it at different angles..piece of paper wont fit in between the mount...switched a/m...

Any ideas?

E. It goes a liiiill bit more if i apply some force (and i hear it click when i move it back that much) i dont know if i should keep going...................

Malalol fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Feb 26, 2012

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Malalol posted:

Help please!!!!!!!
im on vacation right now and my lens is stuck! Canon 40d and tamron 70-300. Its the lens at fault, pretty sure its falling apart, i hear something loose inside if i move it around, it got stuck zooming today between 180-300. And now i cant take it off.

No access to random stuff and i would really really like to use my general lens by monday :( SOL?
Im trying to twidt back and forth, pushing, doing it at different angles..piece of paper wont fit in between the mount...switched a/m...

Any ideas?

E. It goes a liiiill bit more if i apply some force (and i hear it click when i move it back that much) i dont know if i should keep going...................

Are you on vacation in a normal city type place? Go to a camera shop maybe?

Malalol
Apr 4, 2007

I spent $1,000 on my computer but I'm too "poor" to take my dog or any of my animals to the vet for vet care. My neglect caused 1 of my birds to die prematurely! My dog pisses everywhere! I don't care! I'm a piece of shit! Don't believe me? Check my post history in Pet Island!
Im uh, in mexico with family. Weve got a whole itinerary planned with things booked so i cant really go off and do my oqn things,

spf3million
Sep 27, 2007

hit 'em with the rhythm
Anything rattling inside? I'm not sure I understand how the zoom being stuck has anything to do with the locking-barrel mechanism on the lens mount...

Bioshuffle
Feb 10, 2011

No good deed goes unpunished

I'm trying to get the hang of Sunny 16 rule. As the sun as starting to set, I took this shot. There were no shadows, so I put the F-stop at f/ 4.2, ISO 500, and inverse of 500, so 1/500 shutter speed. Absolutely underexposed. What am I loving up here?


DSC_5693 by rustyshackles, on Flickr
1/500 shutter speed, f/4.2, ISO 500.


Seeing as it was underexposed, I decided to bump the ISO to 1000 and it still came out dark.


DSC_5694 by rustyshackles, on Flickr
1/500 shutter speed, f/4.2, ISO 1000.

I finally got something decently useable when I lowered the shutter speed.

DSC_5695 by rustyshackles, on Flickr
1/80 shutter speed, f/4.2, ISO 1000.

Does this mean I just hosed up and grossly underestimated the available lighting? Obviously, I know how to use a light meter but I'm trying to get the hang of the Sunny 16 and I figured I would take the shots anyway and post them here to get some answers and get yelled at for doing something stupid.

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006

Bioshuffle posted:

Does this mean I just hosed up and grossly underestimated the available lighting?

There's no EXIF data for those on Flickr (so there's no ruling out weird camera settings), but probably. Once the sun starts setting, you lose light fast.

The thing to keep in mind about the Sunny 16 equivalencies is that they're all based on midday conditions. A completely overcast day with the noon sun burning behind it? That's f/4. Within two hours of rise or set, that all flies out the window.

Bioshuffle
Feb 10, 2011

No good deed goes unpunished

Molten Llama posted:

There's no EXIF data for those on Flickr (so there's no ruling out weird camera settings), but probably. Once the sun starts setting, you lose light fast.

The thing to keep in mind about the Sunny 16 equivalencies is that they're all based on midday conditions. A completely overcast day with the noon sun burning behind it? That's f/4. Within two hours of rise or set, that all flies out the window.

Whoops, I just fixed my settings, so the EXIF data should be available. This was well after the sun had set, but it was still bright outside. The sun had been setting just as I stepped outside. I guess the only way to learn is to take more shots and play around.

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Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Saint Fu posted:

For what it's worth, I bought the Marumi DHG Super Circular P.L.D 72mm based on this website and I'm not all that impressed. It seems like the review was done by physicists, not photographers.

Some physicists are photographers too :argh:

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