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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

killer_robot posted:

Are we forgetting Franken? We ran the guy out without even bothering to run an investiga...

Oh wait wait wait wait. I get it, we're not even supposed to INVESTIGATE a claim and see if the person bringing it up has a record of being a lying 'garbage person' or not with a political chip on their shoulder the size of Delaware and some seriously suspicious conflicting allegiances and a timeline full of impossible holes.

Try harder.

yeah al franken was exactly the kind of bullshit we're talking about here. he got pushed out because he's in a 100% blue seat and not important to the DNC, a no brainer PR move.

now that it's the guy who the DNC rigged the primary for to get rid of bernie panders tho? suddenly a completely different song. need to do an investigation. not into the allegations of course, that'd be preposterous, the only thing getting investigated is the victim, because they might have gotten a date wrong.

biden is kavanaugh.txt for libs at this point. "welp, nothing on my calendar, i probably didn't exist that day"

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killer_robot
Aug 26, 2006
Grimey Drawer
Rigged again. The most ridiculous primary where the DNC bent over loving /backwards/ to accommodate a whole slew of candidates all pushing to be more progressive than thou that got knocked out one by one until Bernie was the last survivor with barely enough delegates to get your hopes up before the voters told him to bugger off. Rigged. Yes, so very sorry. We somehow managed to get a bunch of non progressive socialists in the democratic party and didn't do a good enough job of telling them that voting for the other party made them enablers of garbage people and forbidden. That seems to be the only sort of primary you'll accept.

We /gave/ Reade the 'investigation' you insisted we give Ford. Turns out she's a liar! Funny that. But that doesn't change anything even when the facts are strongly against your side. When you say 'investigate' do you mean ignore the evidence against the woman's credibility and ability to tell the truth so she comes out smelling like roses and we toss the accused, no matter how shoddy her actual claims are, out the window?

Being a Bernie Bro must be so hard, what with seeing everything with that weird 180 degree vision of yours.

Have you considered, for a moment, the ratification of a system where a woman can cry rape, be substantially proven a liar, and we STILL have to agree with her?

Have you, perhaps, considered the idea that People Just Don't Want Bernie?

I know it's a hard fact to swallow, but the sooner you do the sooner you'll get rid of your anger and stop seeing conspiracies around you when it's actually a matter of you wanting the world to work in a way very quite different than what it actually does.

killer_robot fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jun 1, 2020

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
We get it, you REALLY want a rapist as your president.

E: is this some performance art piece where you post random YouTube comments as your own content? I can't tell

killer_robot
Aug 26, 2006
Grimey Drawer
no. you don't get it. I want some proof that Biden raped Reade. Apparently, the only person who insists he did was a garbage person who defrauded a ton of people before and after she worked for him!

Except, the only way you're going to feel validated against your hatred of Biden is if you can pound the 'he's a rapist!' alarm good and loud despite your crumbling case.

Lying liar that lies. A lot:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/15/tara-reade-left-trail-of-aggrieved-acquaintances-260771

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jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
We get it, you REALLY like rapists. I'm seriously concerned for the women in your life.

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killer_robot
Aug 26, 2006
Grimey Drawer
I know you are but what am I?

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Not the thread for this. Post more crazy emails.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

killer_robot posted:

no. you don't get it. I want some proof that Biden raped Reade. Apparently, the only person who insists he did was a garbage person who defrauded a ton of people before and after she worked for him!

Except, the only way you're going to feel validated against your hatred of Biden is if you can pound the 'he's a rapist!' alarm good and loud despite your crumbling case.

Lying liar that lies. A lot:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/15/tara-reade-left-trail-of-aggrieved-acquaintances-260771

Wow, this lady's landlords didn't like her? Must be a pathological liar

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

killer_robot posted:

Are we forgetting Franken? We ran the guy out without even bothering to run an investiga...

Oh wait wait wait wait. I get it, we're not even supposed to INVESTIGATE a claim and see if the person bringing it up has a record of being a lying 'garbage person' or not with a political chip on their shoulder the size of Delaware and some seriously suspicious conflicting allegiances and a timeline full of impossible holes.

Try harder.

Joseph Robinette Biden's long history of being a lying garbage person is, of course, irrelevant because he's the man #BelieveMen #HimToo

killer_robot posted:

no. you don't get it. I want some proof that Biden raped Reade.

There's more evidence of Reade's claim than there was of Dr Blasey Ford's

Dems are the mirror image of Republicans, when it's their guy, hey if the woman didn't get the assault on camera with both of them holding up two forms of ID, it didn't happen.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Jun 1, 2020

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
"On April 12, a New York Times article reported that the publication had conducted interviews with Reade, several of her friends, lawyers, nearly two dozen people who worked with Biden in the early 1990s, and seven women who accused him of kissing, hugging, or touching them in ways that had made them feel uncomfortable."

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
She told people about it at the time.

Several people.

I've never understood how this gets ignored.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
The Crazy Forwarded Emails are coming from within the thread! :gonk:

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Guys, primary/general/biden stuff should go in the GE thread please.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

killer_robot posted:

Rigged again. The most ridiculous primary where the DNC bent over loving /backwards/ to accommodate a whole slew of candidates all pushing to be more progressive than thou that got knocked out one by one until Bernie was the last survivor with barely enough delegates to get your hopes up before the voters told him to bugger off. Rigged. Yes, so very sorry. We somehow managed to get a bunch of non progressive socialists in the democratic party and didn't do a good enough job of telling them that voting for the other party made them enablers of garbage people and forbidden. That seems to be the only sort of primary you'll accept.

We /gave/ Reade the 'investigation' you insisted we give Ford. Turns out she's a liar! Funny that. But that doesn't change anything even when the facts are strongly against your side. When you say 'investigate' do you mean ignore the evidence against the woman's credibility and ability to tell the truth so she comes out smelling like roses and we toss the accused, no matter how shoddy her actual claims are, out the window?

Being a Bernie Bro must be so hard, what with seeing everything with that weird 180 degree vision of yours.

Have you considered, for a moment, the ratification of a system where a woman can cry rape, be substantially proven a liar, and we STILL have to agree with her?

Have you, perhaps, considered the idea that People Just Don't Want Bernie?

I know it's a hard fact to swallow, but the sooner you do the sooner you'll get rid of your anger and stop seeing conspiracies around you when it's actually a matter of you wanting the world to work in a way very quite different than what it actually does.

You should really source your quotes so people don't think that you're the sort of blithering idiot who actually believes those words you're posting.

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borkencode
Nov 10, 2004
Let's get back on topic here.









DrHammond
Nov 8, 2011


It's a doozy but there's some nuggets in here. Owner of the company I used to work for...

quote:

This year started with a virus which the main stream media and social media have continually censored and militantly blocked the truth of, while simultaneously cultivated and developed a ridiculous level of fear and angst over, which ultimately has led to the largest over-reaction by world governments in the history of humankind, destroying economies and wrecking havoc on the world over by imprisoning people in their homes and causing them to freely give up their rights and liberties through manufactured fear.

And then, after the powder-keg of isolation, self-imprisonment, and job losses reached a critical mass of frustration, a true and real tragedy occurs by a few corrupt cops who kill a man over a fake $20 bill and the world goes nuts all over again and start to destroy their own cities and the small businesses of their neighbors who had nothing to do with the act in the first place.

What's sick is that many people feel these violent protests are justified, that somehow three corrupt officers represent the integrity or lack thereof of 687,000 full-time sworn in officers in the USA, the overwhelming majority of who truly believe and understand their oath to the constitution and to serve and protect the public.

What's sick is that many people feel that violence against police right now is somehow justified. They think that burning down small businesses is somehow justified. They claim that looting and stealing is somehow ok because its a natural progression when peaceful protests go unheard or unaddressed. They speak of ethnic guilt or a ridiculous feeling of privilege that they have simply because they can't reconcile having when others have not even though the actions they took in their lives led to having while the actions of those others led to not having. But their humility and gratitude over their blessings has spilled over into a self-loathing, self-sabotaging ideology which leads them to be morally complacent with the outrageous rioting and looting that is taking place in the country right now...

Every race and ethnicity shares its own privileges and limitations in a physiological perspective, a societal perspective, and a geographical perspective. To assume or make the claim that any specific race or ethnicity shares any more privileges or limitations than any other in modern times in the United States of America is not only factually untrue, it cannot be substantiated by even anecdotal means. To assume or make the claim that systemic racism exists (meaning ACTUAL systems with ACTUAL rules, WRITTEN DOWN, which are ACTUALLY enforced and embraced by a society) is not only factually untrue, it cannot be substantiated by even anecdotal means.

Simply put, the myth of privilege and racism are used as shields by the immoral to trick and rationalize crimes against others.
Does Privilege exist? Yes. Does racism exist? Yes. Does evil and tragedy exist? Yes.

HOWEVER, privilege exists with those who are offered a shortcut that others don't receive, to those who are offered no limitations where others are offered nothing but limitation, to those whose actions or persecutions are never under a magnifying glass and never recorded by a thousand cell phone cameras, posted, inflated, and twisted by main stream media on a continual basis, to those who can burn down cities, loot, steal, and commit thousands of crimes in response to one without receiving punishment or recourse, and to those who can alter science to fit their desired realities and force others to learn and practice doctored science.

Yes, privilege exists, but not where you are brainwashed to believe it exists. True measurable privilege exists largely with those who claim to have no privilege, while true measurable persecution exists with those who are purported to have the privilege.

Yes racism exists, but not where you are brainwashed to believe it exists. True measurable racism exists largely with those who PROVIDE the privileges to those who they believe are lesser, to those who believe they are lesser and ACCEPT those privileges only to be enslaved by them and believe the false narrative that they are lesser that everyone else is more, and that they are entitled to shortcuts where others should be denied the same luxury, offered limitations, and brainwashed into believing that they deserve to start the race behind others, limited in their winnings, and embracing of guilt and shame for reaching the limits in which they are permitted to. In other words, the truly racist are those that so often accuse others of racism and demand others live in shame, guilt, limitation, and privilege exclusion.

What happened to George Floyd was terrible and watching what those police officers did was horrible. But nothing justifies what people are doing right now in his name and let's not pretend for a second that this is about him at all. How does stealing Louis Vuitton bags honor George Floyd? How does breaking into a pharmacy and stealing drugs honor George Floyd? How does burning down buildings and tearing down cities honor George Floyd?

None of what is happening is about George Floyd. George Floyd was simply a catalyst for the powder keg of isolation, self-imprisonment, and job loss.
It's why the WORST of all the violence, rioting, and looting, is in LIBERAL states, and LIBERAL towns, ran by LIBERAL democrats. These states had the WORST lockdowns which created the MOST PENT-UP ANGER, and gave away to the MOST OUTRAGE at ANY reason people could find to get out of their homes and RELEASE their rage in a fury of anarchy.

SO, good job democrats. This is what your world looks like. You wound and maim some races with privilege, make them believe they are unprivileged, convince them that everyone else who is truly unprivileged is actually privileged, and finally, cover and manufacture news in a disproportionate manner as to make the world believe that racism and persecution of others is the rule instead of the exception...

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

quote:

HOWEVER, privilege exists with those who are offered a shortcut that others don't receive, to those who are offered no limitations where others are offered nothing but limitation...

Hey, yeah, that's a pretty good definition of privilege so far! I'm sure this won't turn into a gender critical rant about reverse racism! Now let me pause for a big sip of water before reading

RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
Its sad. You never see any white people in positions of power.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

DrHammond posted:

It's a doozy but there's some nuggets in here. Owner of the company I used to work for...

Please get the owner to elaborate on my "racial physiological privileges" because that sounds like a minefield of self-embarrassment for the doofus.

All I can think of (as a northeast-euro American honky) is the bonus +3 to vitamin D production. I would love to know more about any upcoming or dormant racial abilities to unlock!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

quote:

To assume or make the claim that systemic racism exists (meaning ACTUAL systems with ACTUAL rules, WRITTEN DOWN, which are ACTUALLY enforced and embraced by a society) is not only factually untrue, it cannot be substantiated by even anecdotal means.
Why does it only count if it's written? Does it count if it was written in the past or do the effects of things disappear the moment that they stop being written down? Does engraving count as writing? Many questions.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

DrHammond posted:

It's a doozy but there's some nuggets in here. Owner of the company I used to work for...

On one hand, these killings don't represent all police officers.

On the other hand, these riots represent all protesters.

Sure thing bud.

DrHammond
Nov 8, 2011


As further contextualization, here's his FB profile background.

Lots of black faces in that spread. See, he respects them!

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

DrHammond posted:

As further contextualization, here's his FB profile background.

Lots of black faces in that spread. See, he respects them!



The banner's label of "45th and 46th" president suggests...?

Civil war? Total dissolution and reformation of the country? Time travel or somehow phasing in and out of existence? Rapture of the entire line of succession followed by God throwing Trump back as an accidental +1.

sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jun 3, 2020

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
theyre just stupid.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer

sweart gliwere posted:

The banner's label of "45th and 46th" president suggests...?

Civil war? Total dissolution and reformation of the country? Time travel or somehow phasing in and out of existence? Rapture of the entire line of succession followed by God throwing Trump back as an accidental +1.

Remember when Obama let 9/11 happen and started an unnecessary war in Iraq and the whole 'Mission Accomplished' thing? He was the 43rd president at the time.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug
I actually really hope it's that SovCit person-hood BS about the legal entity DONALD TRUMP as opposed to the person Donald Trump.

Like, not only will their magic trick work in court (depends on flag fringe), but it will also sidestep impeachment and removal!

I know it's just the guy being dumb though :/

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

sweart gliwere posted:

The banner's label of "45th and 46th" president suggests...?

Civil war? Total dissolution and reformation of the country? Time travel or somehow phasing in and out of existence? Rapture of the entire line of succession followed by God throwing Trump back as an accidental +1.
45th president Donald J. Trump, 2017-2025 & 46th president Johnald D. Trump 2025-whenever the fake mustache falls off.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Kent State gunpoop girl for prez

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!

quote:

It's why the WORST of all the violence, rioting, and looting, is in LIBERAL states, and LIBERAL towns, ran by LIBERAL democrats. These states had the WORST lockdowns which created the MOST PENT-UP ANGER, and gave away to the MOST OUTRAGE at ANY reason people could find to get out of their homes and RELEASE their rage in a fury of anarchy.
Unfortunately all the "nonliberal" states with "nonliberal non Democrats" released their stay at home orders preemptively, even before getting close to the President's recommended phase one opening criteria, thereby ensuring their population would die at much greater rates. Liberals also conveniently march and protest, and in those cities they can do so without fear of immediate Confederate-flag-waving civilian gunfire. In other locations, protesters expect to be shot by the police and those groups on the very first day.

(On the other hand, the gun crowds have done a terrible job with this opportunity. The founders would have expected family-run businesses, often connected to the home or as a portion/room of a house. Family doctors, craft workers, supplies, non perishables, hotel owners, "worked in their homes". Trespassers would have been blunderbussed. Looters of Chang's Market would have dispersed when the first body fell. The Militia would have been called up to protect the town.)

The writer also ignores repeated observations that protesters and looters seem to be different groups of people. Looters were planned and well organized Sunday; they seemed to know that the police and guard would be busy spraying protesters with water, so why not got to the nearest mall and steal everything.

PhantomOfTheCopier fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Jun 4, 2020

borkencode
Nov 10, 2004








I think my cousin might be a white supremacist.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Is anyone more outraged that he went to church than that he had cops teargas the priests to get there?

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

borkencode posted:









I think my cousin might be a white supremacist.

You're right. But I did see that last meme posted with a slightly different caption by a person of color in my news feed who is very much in support of the demonstrations. I think rather than "anti-white post" it was something like "post against racism on social media" or something, and I got the vibe that it was more meant to poke fun at slacktivism.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
Also, the church wasn't set on fire and the staff were actively helping the protesters when they were driven off for Trump's photo op.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

They literally gassed clergy on the patio of the church, and leaders of Episcopal church have directly condemned Trump for both clearing the square and making his photo-op there for political purposes.

quote:

“What President Trump did in front of St. John’s Episcopal Church, Lafayette Square, on the evening of June 1 was disgraceful and morally repugnant,” the bishops of New England wrote in a statement. “Displaying a Bible from which he did not quote, using as a mere backdrop an Episcopal church where he did not pray, and – more callously – ordering law enforcement to clear, with force and tear gas, a path through demonstrators who had gathered in peace, President Trump distorted for his own purposes the cherished symbols of our faith to condone and stoke yet more violence.”

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

I knew murder hornets weren’t going to be June, but I frankly did not expect ‘Episcopal Archdioceses issues scathing condemnation of US Presidential Administration in response to “soft-kinetic” strike on Church aid station in DC,’ landing them on the right side of an insurrection to be part of it.

tek79
Jun 16, 2008


I'm curious to know how exactly they define "anti-white" in this instance. I'm assuming "anti-white" just means "in support of black protesters and black lives" here. In which case yeah your cousin is a Nazi. If not, your cousin is still probably a Nazi.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

tek79 posted:

I'm curious to know how exactly they define "anti-white" in this instance. I'm assuming "anti-white" just means "in support of black protesters and black lives" here. In which case yeah your cousin is a Nazi. If not, your cousin is still probably a Nazi.

Likely some combination of "Black lives matter."
Or any post about checking ones privilege.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

pretense is my co-pilot

Its Always Projection.

The only reason they can imagine to post Black Lives Matter or any similar thought is sucking up or otherwise currying favor.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Even something like George Floyd's killing on screen is getting the conspiracy nuts out



quote:

LOTS of puzzling Questions about the Floyd George Incident:
1. Why does one photo from behind show the man on the road is not handcuffed and the video from the front that he is handcuffed?
2. Why is the cop car in the restaurant surveillance video different than the one Floyd was lying behind (different car numbers)?
3. Why were the cops in the surveillance footage that arrested him different than the police in the actual incident?
4. Why does the video show the diesel fuel price as 99 cents instead of the regular price in the area of $2.49?
5. Why does the police car have a non-municipal license plate with "Police" on it?
6. Why does Derek have a completely different police badge on top of a second police badge matching his partner's if they work for the same precinct?
7. Why is it not odd that both Officers Tou Thao and Derek Chauvin have both previously been investigated for excessive use of force and not charged by State AG Amy Klobuchar?
Additionally, Officer Derek Chauvin is married to his partner's sister Kelli.
8. Is there any cop dumb enough to continue kneeling on someone’s neck for 8 minutes when surrounded by people and being video recorded?
9. Is it possible for the deceased’s cousins and fiancé to be completely tearless during interviews?
10. Why does the main cop have one hand in his pocket most of the time he’s kneeling?
11. Why did the kneeling officer appear completely cool and calm, as if he was posing for the camera?
12. Doesn’t it seem strange that Floyd and the officer that kneeled on his neck worked security together on the same shift at the El Nuevo Rodeo Club, the officer for 17 years (both were laid off because of the COVID-19 virus)?
13. Why do the neighbors of this officer say they didn’t know he was a cop and never saw him in uniform?
14. Why has the same attorney been hired as with all the other big supposed police killings of blacks? Attorney Benjamin Crump. The same attorney that worked on previous cases that resulted in busses bringing in rioters from outside the city?
15. Why does store surveillance video show Floyd calmly and submissively walking with the officer and not resisting arrest while the officer gently allowed him to sit down on the side walk, and multiple officers calmly chatting with him? Is this the kind of suspect that a police officer would feel the need to put on the ground and place his knee on his neck?
16. Why did the EMT workers (wearing police uniforms including bullet proof vests) roughly handle and dump the unconscious George on the stretcher? This is not how trained emergency workers lift a person with a possible neck injury. Why did they not attempt triage or try CPR?
17. Can someone really not breathe when someone kneels on his neck and is the victim really able to speak for considerable periods of time if he can’t breathe?
18. Post killing: Why is a white man that looks like an undercover (St. Paul) cop in black and a riot gear mask carrying a black umbrella walking around breaking windows (and others dressed similarly starting fires) and instigating a riot? Is this reminiscent of “umbrella man” during the JFK shooting?
19. Why were almost all the rioters leading the destruction of the neighborhood at the beginning of the riots “white” and not from Minneapolis? In a black neighborhood after a police killed a black man?
20. Why did the Chief of Police make it a point that those inciting the riots and arsonists were not from Minnesota?
21. Why was a CNN News Crew not only detained but also Arrested?

What did I miss???

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Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

Medullah posted:

Even something like George Floyd's killing on screen is getting the conspiracy nuts out



I mean some of them are very good questions, but the answers are just like racism and cop worship

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