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the_steve posted:I think the usual counter for that though is that it was transactional.
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I work in public benefits, processing apps and interviews for food and cash benefits, and I have clients all the time who are embarrassed or ashamed to be applying for benefits and I always make sure to tell them that they've paid their taxes and these are their benefits to claim. Anti-communism/anti-socialism has broken a lot of brains.
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Regardless of free health insurance or college or anything else… a shared federal standing army is socialist as all hell ala Keynes
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The Islamic Shock posted:I tell my grandfather he earned his health insurance. Because he did. I simply omit that he shouldn't fuckin' have to earn it Yeah, my father suffered from PTSD for around 50 years before getting treatment because of the stigma of collecting benefits.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Navy but I recognize a fellow traveler. Everyone counts except the Marines. Who do also count but gently caress the Marines
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LonsomeSon posted:Everyone counts except the Marines. If those Marines could read, they could be upset.
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:If those Marines could read, they could be upset. I’ve got several boxes of crayolas I keep on hand, just in case.
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Seems like the skipped the part where they use their money and influence to try to make X illegal.
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No they skipped the part where in the original the character roles are swapped, and it was originally made by internet atheists in the mid-to-late aughts to highlight how Christians find anyone not acting like they want them to act to be a threat.
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Yeah I was gonna say, I'll take that deal. The Christian doesn't have to say being trans or doing butt stuff is good as long as they don't try to ban it. It's also funny because the Christian is doing the same thing as their strawman: getting upset that the strawman won't praise the Christian's behavior.
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It's also skipping over the extent to which conservative Christians refusing to say "X is good" is also an avenue of control. I am less concerned with whether they say a trans woman is good and must be celebrated than with whether a trans woman is permitted to use the women's bathroom and play in women's sports.
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Okay I'd like to knock up a liberal Hispanic woman, change my sex, marry her, take her to get an abortion, pick up some weed on the way home, and years later decide to adopt in that exact order, you ain't gonna try to stop me exactly like you said right
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that's just how they describe "cancel culture" "i want to say the n-word but i can't because you'll judge me." "no one said you can't. go right ahead. i'll just judge you as being a bigot who says the n-word" "no you can't do that!" it reminds me of the last chappelle special when he opened with a..."joke" about how people come up to him and demand he be ok with their gay wedding when ain't no one doing that poo poo. no one wants or needs your approval, we just want and need you to get out of the way of other people approving.
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The Islamic Shock posted:guess what isn't edit quote is woke!!!!
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socialsecurity posted:Seems like the skipped the part where they use their money and influence to try to make X illegal. Yeah the conservative Christian calmly saying "You're free to do whatever you wish" is the most opposite-of-reality thing in this whole stupid meme. There are entire lobbying groups that are actively making being trans illegal and are angling to bring back sodomy laws as soon as they can, the gently caress do you mean?
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Also they're the exact types to take personal offense when Muslim or Hindu or Jewish dietary laws even slightly get on their radar, let alone things like veganism or allergies. Conservative Christian: I want to eat a bacon sandwich. Other Person: I personally think it's wrong to eat that, but you're free to. Conservative Christian: I'm being oppressed by the woke *makes bacon entire identity*
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The bacon thing continues to flabbergast me because my understanding is the dietary restriction is so loose that believers are encouraged to break the restriction if they are served non-Halal foods at a dinner invitation, so as to not be rude. You’d rather need to make up for it later yourself, than refuse hospitality!
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The Islamic Shock posted:Okay I'd like to knock up a liberal Hispanic woman, change my sex, marry her, take her to get an abortion, pick up some weed on the way home, and years later decide to adopt in that exact order, you ain't gonna try to stop me exactly like you said right Now that is a jam packed Saturday.
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Silly Burrito posted:Now that is a jam packed Saturday.
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LonsomeSon posted:The bacon thing continues to flabbergast me because my understanding is the dietary restriction is so loose that believers are encouraged to break the restriction if they are served non-Halal foods at a dinner invitation, so as to not be rude. You’d rather need to make up for it later yourself, than refuse hospitality! A lot of these people barely have a functional grasp of their own beliefs, much less anyone else's. Do you remember all the insane posting during the war in afghanistan/iraq about dropping pigs blood or doping bullets with grease, as if Muslims were some sort of fringe vampire that would vaporize on contact with pork products?
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Ashcans posted:A lot of these people barely have a functional grasp of their own beliefs, much less anyone else's. Do you remember all the insane posting during the war in afghanistan/iraq about dropping pigs blood or doping bullets with grease, as if Muslims were some sort of fringe vampire that would vaporize on contact with pork products? So if a group says to their members, "you shouldn't eat this, it's dirty" reactionaries believe it's an extra insult. Can't get into Muslim heaven if you got shot with a bacon bullet! The US flag is a perfect example of this, look at the reaction on Twitter to seeing some frat boys "protecting" the flag during a protest- they've donated like $50,000 to the fraternity in support of carefully preventing a flag from touching the ground. Stuff like this, to them, is a powerful image and one they rally behind.
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Women are not safe from marches they love parades cept when they don't
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Women are banned from supermarkets in London now because of Sharia law.Panfilo posted:These people operate on Ork logic, in that beliefs, particularly of specific objects, symbols, or totems carry actual significance and weight due to their reality warping psychic gestalt traits. Like the old antisemitic trope that everything with certain kosher symbols donated a few cents from each sale to Jewish blood magic. Or its modern equivalent:  The chicken was inspected to ensure no blood or organ meat, a prayer was said (most likely on a tape player), so it qualifies for a badge that goes in your window so Muslims will eat there, while having exactly zero effect on non-Muslims.
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LonsomeSon posted:The bacon thing continues to flabbergast me because my understanding is the dietary restriction is so loose that believers are encouraged to break the restriction if they are served non-Halal foods at a dinner invitation, so as to not be rude. You’d rather need to make up for it later yourself, than refuse hospitality! Yeah I've worked with Muslims before and if the pork thing ever came up in conversation their response would be that the Quran basically says that Allah knows what's up and isn't super strict about it. If someone put a gun to one of their heads and told them to eat bacon they'd eat it because Allah knows they ate it under duress And yes, people who call themselves Christian often just aren't. Way too many of them are just awful people who have discovered that it's socially taboo to question someone's religious beliefs so that hide behind their proclaimed faith for protection against criticism. They don't actually have any beliefs other than hatred of The Other and they use their religion as a bludgeon And it sucks because while I lost my faith a long time ago and went through the angry internet atheist phase, I've met a lot of very cool people from multiple faiths in my personal life and my career and they're actual believers who try to follow what their religion says and try to be good people. It gave me back a little faith (heh) in humanity but whenever I do something dumb like reading the Freep thread it just drives me insane because those people are all obvious liars about all their religious poo poo
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InsertPotPun posted:that's just how they describe "cancel culture" When I'm in the mood, I'll occasionally ask someone who's going on about it what they think "cancel culture" means and also what "woke" means. Mainly, they seem to think that "being cancelled" means that if you gently caress up or say something hosed up then you're entire career is ruined but they're usually woefully short on examples. I'll sometimes ask them what they think of Woody Allen being "cancelled" and they're generally OK with that. Or Bud Light. Or the Dixie Chicks. Or Bill Maher. Depends on who's being "cancelled", typically. I mean, really, it's just the free market speaking; something they aggressively seem in favor of. Like you pointed out, you absolutely CAN say the same poo poo you always could. Probably more even. But repercussions are nothing new. I'm going way back here to make a point but Sam Kinison, Dice Clay, Al Campanis, Spike Lee, Chuck D, Al Sharpton, 2 Live Crew, Eddie Murphy, Lenny Bruce, LA Law, Murphy Brown...the list is endless of artists, shows, musicians, etc. who pushed boundaries and suffered consequences. SNL. I'll ask a coworker or three that's bitching about "not being able to say/do that anymore" just what, exactly, they can't say anymore that they want to. None of them are racists or homophobes as far as I know. Again, they're generally short on answers beyond a few certain comedy films. They'll mention "All in the Family" or "Married WIth Children" and, again, those shows suffered tremendous backlash at the time. AitF used to run a pre-show disclaimer. It's really just being worried about being offensive but, by and large, we SHOULD collectively try not to do that too much. And NONE of them know what the gently caress "woke" means. It's just "politically correct" with a shorter title and basically means "try not to be an rear end in a top hat" and, if you ARE an rear end in a top hat, expect some pushback, along with trying to exercise some basic, general sense of empathy and compassion. But all I usually get is a mish mash of ______________ being "shoved down our throats". Two of them openly admitted that it was a good question and they;d never really thought about it.
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BiggerBoat posted:Two of them openly admitted that it was a good question and they;d never really thought about it. The level of incuriousness in people never fails to amaze me. "I've never really thought about this thing that angers me quite a lot. I can't say why it makes me mad, and I refuse to interrogate what that says about where I get my information or why I elect to share these abrasive opinions with others unprompted. To be fair, I could pretend I don't examine these feelings because it's a frustrating thing to deal with emotionally, but emotions are for liberals (except rage). Still, if I were honest about it, I avoid introspection because it would causes my vanity and my impotence to clash. What I'm really not afraid of is cancel culture or teenagers, but rather anything that will question my self perception lest another part fall off the jalopy of my terrible terrible life."
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BiggerBoat posted:When I'm in the mood, I'll occasionally ask someone who's going on about it what they think "cancel culture" means and also what "woke" means. Mainly, they seem to think that "being cancelled" means that if you gently caress up or say something hosed up then you're entire career is ruined but they're usually woefully short on examples. I'll sometimes ask them what they think of Woody Allen being "cancelled" and they're generally OK with that. Or Bud Light. Or the Dixie Chicks. Or Bill Maher. Depends on who's being "cancelled", typically. I think Adam Sandler should be cancelled because his movies aren't funny any more.
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LonsomeSon posted:The bacon thing continues to flabbergast me because my understanding is the dietary restriction is so loose that believers are encouraged to break the restriction if they are served non-Halal foods at a dinner invitation, so as to not be rude. You’d rather need to make up for it later yourself, than refuse hospitality! Idk the exact rules of Halal but Kashrut is very much not something you risk yourself for. The assholes will fantasize about pig fat coated bullets, wiping their rear end with Koran pages, and so on. To own the terrorists. From what I understand Islam is like Judaism where if someone puts a gun to your head, then demands you eat the bacon-wrapped shrimp while renouncing God, you do it. He will know your heart. Sometimes I doubt belligerent racist evangelical types actually believe in their professed faith at all. Edit: gently caress beaten hard. But it’s crazy to me how we managed to be nice when only using Torah God. Meanwhile Jesus is the new wave pacifist hippy who somehow became the patron of the bigot and the sword. There are plenty of real good Christians out there too of course, being Christlike. We sadly don’t get to hear about them when they are drowned out by assholes. soviet elsa fucked around with this message at 17:15 on May 4, 2024 |
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Yeah the bacon-grease-bullets thing always said more about the practitioners than it was going to do to the victims. I knew a guy when I was deployed who saved pork-containing MRE items to give to village kids anytime we were on a stop somewhere. He was otherwise a chill dude, in some ways really too kind to be a soldier, but he had this resentment that he had bought a propaganda line and volunteered for this bullshit (same, fam, same) and it metastasized into this will to cause harm that gave the lie to the kinder parts I mentioned. I haven’t thought about him in a minute, I hope he got better. One way or another.
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LonsomeSon posted:Yeah the bacon-grease-bullets thing always said more about the practitioners than it was going to do to the victims. Y'know, I remember many years ago, like back when I was still in high school, a Hindu sued taco bell because they gave him a beef burrito instead of bean, and he didn't realize it until after he had already taken a bite. The damages were because, IIRC, he had to go through this really lengthy purification ritual in order to undo the spiritual harm of having eaten cow. Given that the average racist doesn't know the difference from one brown person to the next, I wonder how much of their "cultural understanding" is based on that or similar cases, which is why they think bacon is some sort of instant kryptonite and not just "a thing you aren't supposed to eat" to Muslims.
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It’s a very high-intensity expression of Conservatives Making poo poo Up And Getting Mad About It: Muslims reject the quintessential Americana which is putting bacon in or on everything, making them Different. Different is Not As Good As, and it’s also an assault on Us. It’s fundamentally the same knee-jerk libidinal bullshit which makes “women need to be punished for having sex by being forced to raise a child” a half-century-long policy project which seems to be blowing the gently caress up in their faces right now in some US places now that they have it.
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soviet elsa posted:Idk the exact rules of Halal but Kashrut is very much not something you risk yourself for. The assholes will fantasize about pig fat coated bullets, wiping their rear end with Koran pages, and so on. To own the terrorists. From what I understand Islam is like Judaism where if someone puts a gun to your head, then demands you eat the bacon-wrapped shrimp while renouncing God, you do it. He will know your heart. That's the terrible dark secret of Halal, that they'll get their hands dirty for the gratuity of all guests but you can also just have a bagel or a grapefruit if that's what you prefer. And that everything is cooked separately and they're definitely not going to be a dick about it, which massively helps with any other dietary requirements or allergies.
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Also, even though they're not certified as halal here, the Filet-O-Fish is still seen as halal enough that the vast majority of Muslims will eat them. It's almost as if these dietary rules are like, spiritual best practices instead of some sort of kryptonite. I remember there was a massive outrage in the right-wing tabloids about a few KFCs that serve more Muslim patrons than the average and the actual grand total of what changed is that the bacon and cheese chicken burger dropped off the menu. And then COVID happened and they took it off the menu anyway because nobody likes it. TinTower fucked around with this message at 23:38 on May 4, 2024 |
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So, there is a lot of talk about kids identifying as cats or dogs “furries”, they call them. Imagine if you can, that one of your kids told you they thought they were a cat? Sitting at the supper table son says: “Dad, I think I’m a cat!” Dad: “No son, you’re a boy! “ Son: “No dad some of my friends at school identify as cats, they call themselves furries, and so do I !! It’s my right and you can’t do anything about it!” Dad: 🤔 “OK!! “ Son: “Hey, where’s my supper?“ Dad: “Your supper is in the catfood bowl in the corner. Now get off the table you mangy cat!” Son: “What???” Dad: hits him with a broom, “get off the table furball!!” Son: in the corner looking bewildered! Mom: “Is that cat neutered”?? Dad: “Nope.” Mom: “I will make an appointment!! “ Son: “What??? “ 😳 Dad: “Your mother and I have decided we don’t want a house cat, so get out to the barn and hunt mice!” Son: “What???” Dad: brandishes broom, “NOW, to the barn you stupid cat!!” Son: “Dad, I think I’m a boy!” Dad: “I thought so, now sit down and eat your supper!!” Now that’s what you call united parenting. Spay and neuter these animals. Stop them from reproducing. Today’s society has enough fruit loops already. End of story!🎤drop
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