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TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
Not exactly an email forward, but here's a lovely comment and resulting conversation I noticed from a kid I employed last summer.

It's so cute when high-school aged kids parrot what their parents say without understanding any of it.


Click here for the full 1045x1117 image.


There it is folks, this is the future.:stare:

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TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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Yeah, upon reading it my thought was that it makes perfect sense to search the hell out of a bunch of 18-24 year old males who've recently had access to explosives.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

LaMarre, Landreville & Beam 2009 posted:

This study investigated biased message processing of political satire in The Colbert Report and the influence of political ideology on perceptions of Stephen Colbert. Results indicate that political ideology influences biased processing of ambiguous political messages and source in late-night comedy. Using data from an experiment (N = 332), we found that individual-level political ideology significantly predicted perceptions of Colbert's political ideology. Additionally, there was no significant difference between the groups in thinking Colbert was funny, but conservatives were more likely to report that Colbert only pretends to be joking and genuinely meant what he said while liberals were more likely to report that Colbert used satire and was not serious when offering political statements. Conservatism also significantly predicted perceptions that Colbert disliked liberalism. Finally, a post hoc analysis revealed that perceptions of Colbert's political opinions fully mediated the relationship between political ideology and individual-level opinion.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Tab8715 posted:

I use to have faith in humanity, until I met conservatives who think they simply calling me a "liberal" or whatever buzzword is an acceptable counter argument.

I love how they think "liberal" "progressive" and "socialist" are among the most terrible insults known to man, and somehow invalidate anything you might say.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

XyloJW posted:

Upon meeting with the Taliban who were at the time using plenty of terrorist tactics against our enemy Russia, President Ronald Reagan said they were the moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers. Maybe that's not so far out there? Rich, educated people leading an insurgency to get a foreign power out of their country.

He was actually talking about the Contras, not that that makes it any better.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
The the way the edited version can rail against unions in one line, and decry the shrinking of the middle class in another makes me :psyboom:

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
The moment someone says "In a post 9-11 world..." in earnest, they lose all credibility in my eyes.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Blarghalt posted:

This rings especially true, because the only country who's ever actually invaded us spoke...English.
The Japanese didn't speak English :smug:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Aleutian_Islands


And how about a crazy political letter? I got one regarding a town election ballot question. Specifically the question would result in some teachers getting a pay raise. This line jumped out at me

quote:

Have you received a 13% salary increase since last year? Milford Teachers will if the proposed school budget passes. Send the teachers' union a message that Milford families are struggling in this economy and cannot afford the 13% increase demanded by the union.
Man, gently caress those rich teachers taking advantage of poor families with stagnant wages.

Aren't these the same people who complain that liberals want to drag people down in favor of equality?


VV It wasn't a state yet, but it was a US territory. VV

TerminalSaint fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Mar 9, 2011

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Armyman25 posted:

Can we just get rid of the electoral college already?

We all know college is just full of LIEberal elitists anyway.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
You mean a functional social safety net will prevent people from looting in a bid to keep from starving? Say it ain't so!

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
Thank goodness we have these modern philosophers to come up with fresh concepts like the rule of law. If only people centuries ago had thought of these things.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAyCdfOXvec

You see, setting up a no-fly zone is exactly like a full scale invasion, and furthermore

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
I've never heard of this Right Network before.

Not a single person there thought better of using a red flag as part of their branding?

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
Welp, that's it. Thread's over. Everyone can go home.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Orange Devil posted:

Yeah, if they'd give every taxpayer 10,000, that'd pick the economy right up and it'd only cost a trillion.

I actually ran the math for the hell of it. You could give each taxpayer nearly 10 grand for the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to date.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Habibi posted:

The hilarious thing is that this criticism wasn't true "in the past." Immigrants from Europe had experienced the same sort of xenophobic attitudes over the past 150+ years because the first generation didn't always learn the language. see: Italians.

The response to this goes "Yeah, but MY ethnic group took care of their communities, not like 'these people'."

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
It's quite telling how conservatives practically worship people with business experience.

They seem to think it qualifies your for anything vaguely leadership related, and no other experience or training can compare.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
Better require fertility tests for marriage too.

"Sorry mom, you can't remarry after dad died in an accident all those years ago. You see, you're post-menopausal, and we don't want to go extinct."

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Thenipwax posted:

The fact that "liberal" is often preceded by "bleeding-heart" shows that conservatives try to use compassion and caring as negative character traits. Their mentality is seriously "gently caress everybody else except me and people exactly like me".

It's funny because they'll say "gently caress you, got mine" and then turn around and talk about how liberals are selfish little brats, and conservatives are all about caring for people and taking care of their family, community, nation, etc.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Idran posted:

Speaking of...

I don't know what to believe :psyduck:

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
Oh God no, don't let us end up like the British. What those peasants do in those godforsaken hellholes of islands can scarcely be called "living" by any rational being.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
I've been seeing this pop up other places too. The template seems to be "Even if we took <liberal idea> to the theoretical maximum it wouldn't be enough to fix the budget!" I saw it applied to military spending on slashdot. "Even if we cut all funding to the military it wouldn't fix the national debt!"

They conveniently ignore that liberals propose doing numerous things to a reasonable degree, rather than one thing to the extreme.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Orange Devil posted:

There's also often a heavy conflation of deficit/budget and debt. Debt won't be 'fixed' in a single year no matter what you do, the deficit could be. Ofcourse, given the economic situation, it's not really desirable to do so.

I've noticed that as well. I've just assumed that most of them don't understand the difference and think they're the same thing.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
Cut countless jobs to get people back to work. Got it.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I guess FDR is his favorite president than.

Too soon.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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jojoinnit posted:

This months British GQ had an article stating that political discourse in America has gotten to the point where the gun debate doesn't even pretend to be about hunters anymore. Now they openly admit that they have guns to scare liberals and threaten to overthrow the government.

I suspect that's partly due to the "Why would you need an X to hunt?" arguement. The easy answer is "The 2nd amendment isn't about hunting."

Edit: Oh I agree, I'm a fan of things that go bang myself. I just suspect that's why the debate has shifted. You don't need to make the hunting argument when arguing constitutionality.

TerminalSaint fucked around with this message at 19:09 on May 4, 2011

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

duck monster posted:

Not quite as nefarious as some of the things you folks have parents emailing around...

Ma sent me this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2GZWSqNviU

:confused:

The video is pretty innocuous, but for some reason the mere mention of "Obama" has turned the comments section into a worse hellhole than usual(which is saying a lot for youtube).

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
He was being sarcastic :ssh:

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
I've never understood how easily people put the value of property above that of human life. Even on big stuff, I love my car, but I'm not going to shoot a guy over it.

My cousin took a course to get his concealed carry permit and related to me how surprised he was to learn that you can't shoot a guy who's walking off with your TV.
:psyduck:

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

JD Brickmeister posted:

I got a phone call today from Dick Morris blabbing on and on - somehow they got the idea I am a tea-party patriot and because I had nothing better to do, I listened. Finally a real person comes on and continues telling me about how Obama is wrecking the country, etc. Finally she tells me they are taking a poll and she wants to know which person I most think represents the true ideas that will make America great again or should be running for president or something like that. I pause and think, and then say "David Duke"

I would have said Bernie Sanders; partly to see what her reaction would be, but mostly because it's true.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
There's even a name for it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
I was so hopeful until the last line...

quote:

U.S.A. Homeless go without eating.
U.S.A. Elderly go without needed medicines.
U.S.A. Mentally ill go without treatment.
U.S.A. Troops go without proper equipment.
U.S.A. Veterans go without benefits they were promised.
Yet we donate billions to other countries before helping our own first. Have the guts to re-post this. 1% will re-post and 99% Won't have the Guts. I'm in the 1%

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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Vector 7 posted:

...Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States ."

If only there was some concept dating back to antiquity that the law should apply equally to all persons in a society...

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Juffo-Wup posted:

This is something about the religious ultra-right jingoists that has always mystified me. And it's not just unbridled aggression, either. Even relatively (by our cultural standards) mild violent inclinations seem contrary to Christian belief. Where in the Bible does Jesus even give permission to defend oneself? I'm pretty sure he explicitly denies his followers even that right. How can people reconcile their violent attitudes with their faith?

Well you see, they've been Christian their entire life, so they've clearly got the being Christian thing down pretty well. This means any feelings they have are to be justified by interpreting Christianity in such as way as to make these feelings ok.

Striving to better yourself and be more like Jesus? Well... :effort:

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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CDOR Gemini posted:

Another good topic might be the gargantuan amount of shady-rear end tax dodging that giant American corporations pull off.

Good for them! They've found ways to outsmart the tax-and-spendocrats. Now they can make more jobs. :smug:

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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quote:

What is all this doing in the budget in the first place?

More good than you can possibly imagine.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
I'm working on my immigration paperwork to move to Canada to be with my Canadian wife.

My mother-in-law likes to bitch about "all these immigrants coming in" and abusing the system. She also like to complain about how much bureaucracy and paperwork I have to deal with and how they should just let me in.

I guess I'm just the right kind?

Edit: VVV Yep.

TerminalSaint fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Aug 18, 2011

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

THE GAYEST POSTER posted:

Post pictures of children injured by rocket attacks. If they call you anti-semitic, ask them why they're being anti-arabic.

Palestinians are Semites, so you can call the other person anti-semitic as well.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


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we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
So apparently this fellow pays 100% in taxes and somehow, despite presumably living in a society, derives no benefit from tax revenue himself.

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TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

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Well you have to remember that poor people are poor because they're bad, lazy people who deserve to be poor. I, on the other hand, am a good person who's going through a rough patch and just need a little help to get back on my feet.

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