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Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Arguing with a liberal, featuring Microsoft Sam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwtG8nVpUU&feature=player_embedded

Not quite a political e-mail, but I got this link from Melanie Philip's blog (she's not quite the British Glenn Beck, maybe the British Ann Coulter). This woman writes for multiple national newspapers, she's won a tonne of awards for journalism, and she links straw-man bullshit she finds on youtube. It's absurd.

Although I do quite like the liberals insistence of "We need. More mus. lims"

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Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Orange Devil posted:

Basically, it's a pretty sane hygiene prescription (kind of similar to how eating pig used to be a legitimate health risk), which makes it ironic that the dumb email tries to portray it as some kind of barbaric and unhygienic practice.

Isn't there a pretty significant reverse view as well? "Those filthy westerners, they just use paper! What the hell's with that?"

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Manifest Dynasty posted:

The reasong this is the only healthy family is because "God said so" and there are (vague, never specifically named) studies that support this.


Even though there are other studies that show it makes no difference what gender your parents are. Can't specifically name them, but they got brought up in the Prop 8 trial and the judge completely shot down any "trials" presented by the pro-8 side.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Perestroika posted:

This link (and the rest of conservapedia) always gives me a 403, am I the only one?

I read somewhere that conservapedia blocks re-directs from SA, I guess they felt the business end of a goon rush at some point.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

I think Conservapedia has blocked non-US users from even accessing the site. It's really for the better sort of people who have the good sense to live in America.

How often do they do that? I used to be able to access them from the UK. Looks like I'll have to resort to the Daily Mail for my regularly doses of angertainment.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

ErIog posted:

They hate acronyms.

Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any crazier. What's to hate about acronyms?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Hutla posted:

I thought I had trained my dad out of this poo poo, but he sent me a doozy today. For background, my boyfriend is a phd candidate in history whose past research has focused on Germany. My dad likes to pretend he's a super rational person and is looking for facts when he sends this type of stuff, but really is just trying to provoke a fight.


Uuuuggghhhhh

I totally get the the idea behind the human mic at these rallies, but it does look a little bit cultish.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Plom Bar posted:

Found on Facebook:


Notice how a large portion of these questions can be answered with "It doesn't loving matter".

This reminds me of those stupid YouTube videos where somebody just loops one phrase constantly ("NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN!") I kept thinking it was going to stop any second now. And it just keeps going. And going. And going.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Cardboard Box A posted:

Change it to "had more American citizens assassinated" and it should be correct.

Nobel Committee: Yo we are awarding you this prize for the accomplishment of being Not Bush

Obama: Thanks! *Does Bush Things*

Nobel Committee: poo poo

But..but..*I'm* Not Bush. And I've stayed like that. Am I now more deserving of a Nobel Prize than Obama? Did Linus Pauling finally get the third Nobel he was so keen on?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

RagnarokAngel posted:

^^^ My favorite is the one about private sector experienced cabinet appointees. Like...what the gently caress how is that relevant at all?


People will stop supporting a company that engages in unsafe practices, this is historically proven fact you idiot.

Union. loving. Carbide.
Deathtoll: 4000+
Injuries:40 000+
2009 revenue: 7 billion

I'm convinced!

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Waffles Inc. posted:

Is there an :ironicat: that grows out of the mouth of another :ironicat: that grows out of another :ironicat: that then loops into our nightmares and consumes our souls because goddamn this segment deserves that.

An ironiklein-bottle perhaps?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

seiferguy posted:

If everyone is armed, no one will disagree with each other and shoot each other. You will have to use logic with me if I've got a gun!

So if a guy with a gun equals 4 men with baseball bats (5 if the driver gets out) what happens when everyone in the car also has guns? By my maths that's 25 men, plus the baseball bats they already have, makes 30. I'm now more hosed than before.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Here's a quote from the far left radical Adam Smith in his Proto-Marxist Treatise, "Wealth of Nations":

I get unending amusement from knowing that every single one of the giants of capitalism would be branded a socialist if they were writing today. Even Milton Freidman. Although he's less of a giant, more of a poo poo.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Oh yeah. I meant the posh ones who wrote books and stuff. Not the people who were actually sending Tiny Tim up chimneys.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

pug wearing a hat posted:



Stuff like this really pisses me off, but I have no idea how to debunk it in a way that they'll actually listen to. :(

FARM is just one letter away from FART.

THINK about where your FOOD comes FROM!

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Ror posted:

We've been fools all along. The liberals' best move is to take out Obama ourselves.

"It’s like what Lenin said…you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh…"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlQJ2n2jayU

Also, "America bless God"? Best sign-off ever.

This is the Southern conservative version of Fragmaster, right?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

The Macaroni posted:

Great article about procedure when the First Family goes to a restaurant:

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-03-15/lifestyle/35261330_1_restaurant-manager-potus-flotus/2


Edit: I would love to be the Secret Service Culinary Agent.

Is it weird that I really want to know how Obama uses the bathroom? Do they have send someone in to scout first? Id have a major panic attack if a secret service guy knocked on the cubicle door to hurry me up.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Angiepants posted:



I'm green. I feel like this may escalate. Any backup that isn't Sicko?

I always loved this graph:

http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/...eType=text/html

The American govt contributes almost as much to private healthcare as the UK government spends just GIVING everyone healthcare.

It's mental.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

The moral of the story is that Bud is a deceitful little poo poo who will swing from "Correct, I have 1586 cows in my herd" to "I have no cows in my herd" in the space of two sentences and wastes government time and our tax dollars by deliberately obstructing the government for no reason other than spite.

gently caress Bud.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Phone posted:

Shitttttt looks like the Facebook thread was deleted right before I was going to effort post. gently caress!

What? It's here. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3543357

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

I finally got one in the wild. Just appeared on Facebook.

quote:

POLICE INFORMATION

The first bit is mainly for women, but gents , please read it and send it on to any women you care about. The second bit is a warning to all of us!

Some sound advice for us all, as we all sometimes forget to take our commonsense with us when we go out.
This is from Northants Police Women.....

Please read, and pass on.

An important message from the Police -
please pass this along to all the women you know.....

This actually happened a few weeks ago on the M3 FLEET SERVICES!!!

It was early evening, and a young girl stopped to get petrol. She filled her tank and walked into the store to pay for her petrol. The cashier told her, 'Don't pay for your petrol yet......walk around the store for a while, and act as if you're picking up some other things to buy. A man just got into the back of your car. I've called the police, and they're on their way'.

When the police arrived, they found the man in the back seat of the girl's car and asked him what he was doing. He replied, he was joining a gang, and the initiation to join is to kidnap a woman and bring her back to the gang to be raped by every member of the gang. If the woman was still alive by the time they finish with her then they let her go. According to the police that night, there is a new gang forming here, originating from London . The scary part of this is, because the guy didn't have a weapon on him, the police could only charge him with trespassing....

He's back on the street and free to try again. Something similar to this happened at the Tesco garage on Cardiff Road in Newport recently, but luckily the cashier saw the man get into her car. Please be aware of what's going on around you, and warn your family and friends.

LADIES, you or one of your family or friends could be the next victim. Please forward this on to everyone you know. Please do not discard this message; it is very important that everyone knows what is happening. Please be careful when leaving your vehicle, and make sure it is ALWAYS LOCKED to prevent this from happening to you.

MET POLICE

In light of the recent kidnapping and now murder of Leigh Mathews, I think it is important to read the following info for your own safety. Things women should know to stay safe: Please take the time to read these pointers. There may be just one or two you hadn't thought of. After reading this, forward it to someone you care about. It never hurts to be careful in this crazy world we live in.

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

2. if a robber asks for your handbag, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you..... He is probably more interested in your handbag than you, and he will go for the handbag. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3. if you are ever thrown into the boot of a car: Kick out the back tail lights, and stick your arm through the hole and start waving. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc, and just sit (doing their cheque book, or making a list). DON'T DO THIS! A predator could be watching you and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, and attack you. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

5. A few notes about getting into your car in car park:

a) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, look at the passenger side floor, and check the back seat.

b) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most attacker’s surprise their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.

c) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the shop, or work, and get guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

6. ALWAYS take the lift instead of the stairs. Stairwells are horrible places to be alone, and the perfect crime spot.

7. if the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; and even then, it most likely WILL NOT BE A VITAL ORGAN

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic:
STOP IT! It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women, He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

9. Another safety point:
Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her, 'Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.' The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, 'We already have a unit on the way. Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.' He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded and uses it to coax women out of their homes, thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls from women saying that they hear babies' cries outside their doors when they're home alone at night.

I'd like you to forward this to all the women you know. It may save a life.


It's clearly an American one (predator, store, tank, Ted Bundy) with UK places badly inserted (the Met don't work in Hants, what are London gangs doing in Newport?) and then someone has bizarrely referenced a 9 year old south african murder.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

It's also odd how a 130 year old Scot writes in a way indistinguishable from a modern American.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Laminator posted:

This popped up on my Facebook from a super-conservative Christian I knew in college (oddly enough, he was the most "un-godly" person you could imagine) http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/january-february/my-train-wreck-conversion.html

It reads like a stdh.txt for QUEERS, I mean just look at this poo poo


I mean the overall message is good I guess in that or says that outright hatred doesn't help anything, but the author sure wasn't subtle about how she feels about her "former sinful lifestyle."

There's something so wonderful about "Fervent for the worldviews of Freud, Hegel, Marx, and Darwin". If she was really a lecturer, she was a bloody terrible one.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

FuzzySkinner posted:



Going to go through every last one of these:

Adam Lanza: Emotionally disturbed kid with mental problems, His mother though seemed to be a bit of a gun nut, and seemed to feed off "right wing" propaganda (Alex Jones) about December 21, 2012

Virginia Tech Shooter (Seung-Hui Cho): Emotionally disturbed kid with mental problems, No remote sign of what his politics are, though it could be argued that his parents could be Republicans due to heavily involvement in a church.

James Eagan Holmes: Emotionally disturbed kid with mental problems, Grew up in the middle class, and was involved with a church. Again, could be argued that he could be from a "republican" background.

Jared Lee Loughner: Emotionally disturbed kid with mental problems, made very Libertarian like comments about the Gold Standard, etc in class. Ron Paul fan.

So, no, not one of those was a democrat (Quite the opposite for at least two of them). What the hell is wrong with the people that make this poo poo?

And when Anders Breivek directly quotes right-wing pundits in his manifesto they get all up in arms when you dare link their racist ideologies with him.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Like those kinds of people will ever couple. :downsrim:

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:

Conservatives will never, ever, ever print the rest of her statement, or acknowledge the correct context even if they do.

What was the rest of her statement?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

VideoTapir posted:

This reminds me of something...conservatives and wealthy idiots accusing anyone who criticizes the wealthy of being jealous.

Is there a word that doesn't mean wanting something someone else has, but wanting NO ONE to have something that someone else has?

That's kind of what jealous used to mean. Scrooge was a jealous miser, Smaug jealously guarded his treasure. Then jealous ended up becoming a synonym for envious.

Its also peculiar how conservatives will defend greed as a motivating factor, but being envious is somehow bad. Its like how voting in your own interests is somehow a bad thing if you happen to be poor.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Alien Arcana posted:

Doesn't Europe put the fluoride in its salt instead? Or something like that, I forget the exact details.

Never heard of this, but some after some quick googling it seems some countries do. No idea how well it works - isn't the point of fluoridated water is that it's directly absorbed into the tooth?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:

Does anyone still have that picture of David Cameron dining with gold finery while talking about austerity?

Boom:

I also found one of what appears to him being photobombed by a guy placing a top hat on his head. Love a bit of classism.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

razorrozar posted:

I love the logic, or lack thereof, in making the leap from "Yes, in this bizarre and highly improbable scenario you describe" to "Yes always and without qualifications". It's like saying that because you like Batman you support vigilantism.

Misunderstanding logic AND misunderstanding batman. No hope for them.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

PUGGERNAUT posted:

Someone posted a photo (taken by a phone, of a computer monitor) saying that Obama was raising the drinking age to 25.

I posted the Snopes link showing it was a hoax.

She comments back:


I don't even know how to respond to that. I probably won't. I don't know why I bothered trying to correct her, people don't like being told they're wrong.

I have an unpleasant tendency of running with it whenever anyone starts doubting facts like this (or in the case of my dad "all politicians are liars, but i like this liar") and start waving my arms around shouting about how there is no knowledge, no external reality and we might as well not be having this argument at all you loving solipsist.

It has yet to endear me to anyone.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010


How much does the guy that who made that picture make?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Swan Oat posted:


e: I am a literal alcoholic and do not spend $400 a month on booze.

You're not an alcoholic, you're a drunk. Only rich people can medicalise substance abuse.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

VitalSigns posted:

It's my right to choose whether or not to feed my child. The government passing a law to force me sounds like tyranny.

It's weird how obsessed with rights that guy was, for a conversation that had nothing to do with them. Yes, you have the right not to take vaccines, but to not do so is dumb as hell. Saying it's your right is not a response to someone arguing why you should.

It's like people who cry freedom of speech when their opinions are criticised. If the only defense of your position is that it's NOT ILLEGAL you need better opinions

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Poizen Jam posted:

I had an argument with someone recently who insisted poors shouldn't be allowed to breed. But dammit, for the life of me, I could not get him to propose a system for how 1.) we judge who is too poor to have kids, 2.) how do we enforce the law, or 3.) how do we punish those that break the law.

I also baited the same right-leaning hateful arse into admitting he didn't actually give a poo poo about low taxes, because when I brought up examples of social assistance programs that produce positive returns/save money, and short sighted spitey programs that cost more money (housing first approaches to homelessness, or how stupid drug testing welfare recipients is), he maintained his position of 'gently caress the poors'. This guy didn't give a poo poo about taxes, as I suspect most conservatives/libertarians don't, as long as he got to hate on and feel superior to the poors.

I think he's a goon and if he is I hope he sees this. He probably thinks I deleted him for disagreeing with me on facebook; I deleted him because I can't stand hateful bigots and intellectually dishonest twats. I have plenty of friends with differing philosophical and political opinions. If you're honest about your intentions and principles I can at least respect you. If you say, however, you have a problem with spending tax dollars on welfare programs then backpedal the moment I cite a source saying investment spending can actually save taxpayer money, you can go gently caress yourself.

I work with the exact same Daily Mail reading "something must be done!" Kind of person.

What kind of something? Just SOMETHING!

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

KiteAuraan posted:

Wasn't there a recent experiment that showed that in fact that really could indeed happen if the right conditions are met? Something about certain elements and the right amount of external energy input?

Miller-Urey in the fifties was the classic - ammonia, reducing atmosphere and some sparks producing a whole heap of amino acids. Later ones have managed to make adenine, one of the four bases in DNA, but I confess I haven't heard anything about that beyond Wikipedia

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Hilbert Spaceship posted:

Not that I disagree with your overall point, but the part I bolded is very incorrect and shows a fundamental (and reasonably easily provable) misunderstanding of infinity.

Easy enough for you to share it with us?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Wiggles Von Huggins posted:

Finally. This thread broached a subject that I have more than a passing knowledge of: Poop. I mean...I have nothing to say about it, but it is still nice.

I think most people have a knowledge of passing poop

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

KomradeX posted:

Wait what? How does that work at all?

I'm assuming the same way as Athenian democracy - freedom, liberty and equality, but only for those who count

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Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Quote-Unquote posted:

Very much so, even on these forums. I thought the film generally wasn't very good and Mos Def was criminally underused after like the first half hour.

See also the constant crying over the thought of a black James Bond. Even though the current frontrunners, at least in public perception, are Idris Elba and Chiwetel Ejiofor, who are easily two of the coolest British actors around.

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