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organburner posted:Took my first dose of concerta about a half hour ago, let's see where we end up Even the lowest dose cancelled my hunger signals so just in case you might want to set an alarm of like “eat/drink a water” at when you usually do, in case you find you forget and then whoops you haven’t eaten in 16 hours.
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I have two settings “literally the 1% top of the exam got a letter about it professor calls on me by name as someone who always has the answers” and “welp what happened cool username you were doing so well” guess where the pendulum has swung
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# ? Jun 24, 2021 08:14 |
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coolusername posted:I have two settings “literally the 1% top of the exam got a letter about it professor calls on me by name as someone who always has the answers” and “welp what happened cool username you were doing so well” guess where the pendulum has swung we are the definition of "bright but doesn't apply themselves" on report cards
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https://twitter.com/MaximumADHD/status/1407550100679897092?s=20
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coolusername posted:Even the lowest dose cancelled my hunger signals so just in case you might want to set an alarm of like “eat/drink a water” at when you usually do, in case you find you forget and then whoops you haven’t eaten in 16 hours. Yeah this one is weird, maybe it'll change, but like I was super hungry until I actually started to make food and then when the food was ready to eat I kinda went "ugh" but managed to get it eaten.
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# ? Jun 24, 2021 12:25 |
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coolusername posted:I have two settings “literally the 1% top of the exam got a letter about it professor calls on me by name as someone who always has the answers” and “welp what happened cool username you were doing so well” guess where the pendulum has swung I feel this.
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# ? Jun 24, 2021 19:43 |
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I worked on it all night and turned it in four hours late at 4am, I'm really hoping the professor brushes that off and still accepts it. I put in for special considerations and hopefully they approve and then that'll cover me, but if they don't, I'm not sure what I'll do. I had such a great average for once this year and then it's just get sick, get insomnia, one bad month and it's all fallen apart on me again. And I've still got one left... But it's not overdue yet thank god. (it is soon though and I haven't started) (please fix my brain)
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# ? Jun 24, 2021 19:58 |
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I really need to brush up on my teaching skills for ADHD. I have some study skills that I recommend to students, and I'm very accommodating of students who struggle with deadlines, but I don't know much those really help.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I really need to brush up on my teaching skills for ADHD. I have some study skills that I recommend to students, and I'm very accommodating of students who struggle with deadlines, but I don't know much those really help. The funny thing is I'm doing a masters of education right now, and this deadline gently caress up is literally in the spec-ed unit. But doctor, I'm diagnosed with inattentive-Pagliacci syndrome!
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# ? Jun 24, 2021 21:27 |
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I really need to brush up on my teaching skills for ADHD. I have some study skills that I recommend to students, and I'm very accommodating of students who struggle with deadlines, but I don't know much those really help. It's a really challenging area, because ADHD pathology involves not being able to use the skills you have when you need them, not just having the skills themselves. So much of developing effective strategies for ADHD involves knowing yourself and having the agency to adapt your environment to your needs and utilize external support structures, which winds up being really idiosyncratic and hard to universalize. Deadlines, for example, might be something that someone struggles to meet, but also often helps people with ADHD to actually get going. It doesn't feel good to be panicking and doing something last minute, but it actually gets done -- so when I work with a patient with ADHD, we might think about something like that and see how structures that resemble deadlines might actually be implemented elsewhere, and in ways that will feel supportive rather than stressful. But how that might look, and what they would find helpful and be comfortable with, is going to be highly individualized. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jun 24, 2021 |
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From the objective perspective, part of the reason I really struggled is other health concerns have hosed me up all month so I wasn't able to implement my usual compensation tools, like changing my study environment. This assessment in particular was also a struggle because the guidelines were pretty vague, there wasn't a clear 'This is what I want' example to mimic for the structure and I find the marking a bit arcane - my high effort first assessment in the unit got a big deduction for being slightly over the word count despite praise for its quality, my second assessment was much lower effort but got higher marks, and that sort of "Okay but I don't know what it should look like and I can't work out what's wanted from me, and over half my marks come from this one thing so if I gently caress up it's going to destroy everything" frustration hasn't helped. I have another assessment due in a couple of days that should theoretically be way more trouble because it's higher complexity and I have basically nothing, and I need it to be good, but the professor is my favourite because he literally gives you a pdf with each section's expectations described down to the word count for different sections, so I've gotten top marks in his unit consistently cause I just tick off the boxes one by one.
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# ? Jun 24, 2021 21:56 |
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On day 3 of 18mg of concerta and I can barely feel any side effects, though I haven't gotten too much good effects yet either. They're there but they are subtle. I was already keeping track of my blood pressure and pulse and while I only have some datapoints since starting the medication they seem better than before so far. I've fallen asleep much faster than usual these past 2 days as well. I kind of want to try upping the dose but instructions were to try the base dose for 2 weeks before increasing to 36mg and then try that for 2 weeks before increasing to 54mg if needed and side effects felt manageable. But man being able to fall asleep is amazing. Once I get my cpap waking up might no longer feel like a tragedy. Side effects I have noticed are like, first day apetite was sort of reduced but that's no longer the case. I feel like I'm woozy but I'm not? Maybe just my brain getting used to thinking slower? because I have noticed I do things slower but better. I have like slight twitches now and then, slight headache and due to the twitches being near my eye I think I sometimes get slightly distorted vision but not anything to get worried about. I've been trying to find a solution for my insomnia for drat near 20 years and if this is the answer I don't know whether to laugh that I finally found it or cry that it took so loving long.
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mobby_6kl posted:For those who haven't been diagnosed as children, how did you determine there's a medical issue and not a normal amount of disorganization or laziness? Never really thought about it until the pandemic gave me a lot of time to think about and find some patterns that might've going on for a long time now and slowly causing issues. Stuff like organization, finishing things, maintaining focus, etc. For me, it's when your life seems to be a series of careless mistakes, bad decisions, and not being able to explain why this keeps happening to you despite your best efforts. I probably would have gone through life wondering why I was such a fuckup if it weren't for a nurse practitioner spotting my ADHD when I rolled into her office with what I thought was anxiety and depression. I woke up the first work day of 2021 only to find myself unable to bring myself to haul myself out of bed and ride my bike to work. I was completely convinced my boss and colleagues would all find out I was a fraud, that I'd be fired in no time, and it didn't matter how hard I tried, there was something inherently wrong with me and I wasn't going to be able to cover it up much longer. The nurse practitioner I saw was originally going to write me a mental health care plan and I think I said something about how I didn't understand why stuff that wasn't hard for other people was so hard for me and she stopped typing, printed off a survey for me to fill in and after checking the results suggested maybe things are harder for me because something in my brain meant they actually were harder. After that, I started to realise maybe some of the stuff I thought was either something everyone had to deal with or were an example me being a failure as a person were actually part of a disorder. Like it's not normal to lock yourself out of your house so many times you keep a spare key in your bag. Or to frequently get so disproportionately angry and upset over trivial things. Or to fail English so badly you can't prove English competency for uni despite obviously being quite literate because you can't sit down to write an essay to save your life. Or to have so many jobs in such a short span of time. Or to get overwhelmed trying to pick which of the 50 varieties of jam to buy at the supermarket. Or knowing on some deep level that you absolutely should not gamble or save your credit card details into your PC browser because you'll end up spending money until there's nothing left. Or basically being dependent on your partner to manage the big life things like paying bills and so on because you know if it were left to you there's a chance it could end in important utilities being disconnected. Or for literally every report card that came home saying things like "Froglet is clearly intelligent but lives in her own world and doesn't apply herself". I'd say it's normal to have any of the above cropping up once or twice every couple of years, or for you to be under such pressure and stress you do all of the above in a short period of time because something else is eating up your ability to juggle competing priorities. It's not normal when it's a pattern in your life that alienates you from your friends and family, that gets you fired from jobs, that leads to your friends calling an intervention on you because you haven't done the dishes in 3 weeks and there's maggots (that one's not me, but I've definitely seen it), that gets you placed on academic probation because you struggle attending classes on time, etc. Edit: As a woman, I've had unique social and family pressures placed on me to keep me in line/train me into my gender role. While I'm still not great at finishing things as well as occasionally lock myself out of the house, I will say my socialisation is probably a large part of why I was able to keep things together enough to skate by undetected until I was 30. I reckon the whole "people with ADHD are inherently disorganised" thing is a myth (at least for me) in that while I can be extremely organised, I'm not able to be organised consistently....And this is why my parents/friends/partner/family all get so incredibly disappointed or frustrated with me - they see my good days, or how colleagues at jobs talk about how great I am, or something urgent spurring me on and think "well why isn't she like that all the time? This is clearly a choice she's making and it says she doesn't care about me/us". All this does to people with ADHD (like me) is make them anxious and depressed - I internalized it and thought I was defective, lazy, and "not trying hard enough". froglet fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Jul 17, 2021 |
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Man I've now been on concerta for like a month and it's weird. To put it in the gooniest of terms, it feels like I went from a dota where I'm merely instructing a character on what to do to a first person shooter where I'm in direct control. For the first time it feels like I'm actually inhabiting my body, and it's weird. I feel like everything sort of affects me more, physically and emotionally and I also have more control. I get angrier than before but I manage that anger way better for example. One issue I am having is social anxiety which is weird. Like, say I'm in a store and I'm looking for something but can't find it. Pre-concerta I would have probably needed 15-30 minutes to work up the nerve to ask an employee. Now if I can't find it I immediately go ask. But then on the other hand if I'm in a store and there's a lot of people there it stresses me the gently caress out to the point that I'll often just not buy half the stuff I needed. This feels like it's contradictory though, does anyone else have similar experiences? Another fun thing, I've been playing Brain Training for the nintendo switch since before I got on the concerta train, and despite feeling like I think slower I'm actually beating my old records. ETA: Also, has anyone tried drinking alcohol while on concerta? It's kind of a thing in the local culture to drink here and if I can just like walk around a party with a can of something or have a drink after work it'd be easier but I can go without if needed. I tried to google it but didn't quite understand what I found.
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organburner posted:ETA: Also, has anyone tried drinking alcohol while on concerta? It's kind of a thing in the local culture to drink here and if I can just like walk around a party with a can of something or have a drink after work it'd be easier but I can go without if needed. I tried to google it but didn't quite understand what I found. Hello, neighborhood local party man who takes Ritalin for his ADHD here! I highly advise being EXTREMELY careful with drinking while on an active dose of any stimulant, mostly because it has a nasty habit of covering up how intoxicated you are and can lead to overdrinking, blackouts, etc. Being that Concerta is a stimulant and alcohol is a depressant, things can get ugly if you're not careful. A drink or two is fine, but anything more I would highly advise against from personal experience. Another thing to keep in mind is that with ADHD, impulse control isn't our strong point, meaning that "not feeling the alcohol" plus "loose judgement b/c alcohol" plus "man I feel great right now" can quickly turn into "dude you were basically incoherent last night". If you have any questions re: alcohol/pot and medication, I am a wealth of information on that front. But also not a doctor, so please, take whatever I say with a grain of salt.
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# ? Jul 23, 2021 14:55 |
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Alcohol + amphetamines (not sure about other stimulants) has weird interactions and can give you heart palpitations and stuff so yeah don't do it
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Yeah amphetamines and related (also LSD, psilocybin (shrooms), mescaline, MDMA etc.) suppress some of the effects of alcohol and it's easy to lose track and drink way too much. Then later when you come down from whatever chemical, you start feeling drunker and drunker, even if you stopped drinking hours earlier. So, if you're going to drink, make sure you keep a tally of how much you've had and stop if/when you reach whatever you know your limit is.
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# ? Jul 23, 2021 16:23 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Alcohol + amphetamines (not sure about other stimulants) has weird interactions and can give you heart palpitations and stuff so yeah don't do it This is also true of some other common drugs, such as caffeine!
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Not exactly the same topic, but Strattera seems to make alcohol hit me harder. I've not had more than one pint of beer at a time on it, but that got me noticeably buzzed. I've always been kind of a lightweight as I'm not much of a drinker, but not quite to that degree.
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# ? Jul 23, 2021 17:02 |
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As someone who was on a wide variety of brain drugs, including stimulants, while drinking heavily, I highly recommend against it!
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Alright, thanks. Like I said it would probably be mostly a beer or the equivalent, +/- 2 depending on the situation. Mostly it's to shut up those that are offended when someone in their company is not drinking. There's usually a 50/50 shot of drinking a lot of alcohol just absolutely spiking my anxiety so I don't drink too much anyway.
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# ? Jul 23, 2021 21:38 |
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There are some great alcohol free beers now. Brewdog Punk AF is good, also Erdinger Alkoholfrei
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# ? Jul 23, 2021 21:43 |
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There are certainly some good alcohol free beers and I'd occasionally have one when I'm driving or something. But really, just feel free to drink water or whatever, no adult should what you drink.froglet posted:For me, it's when your life seems to be a series of careless mistakes, bad decisions, and not being able to explain why this keeps happening to you despite your best efforts. Speaking of the envelope, I came across this on imgur randomly: Certainly feels like the I'm in the picture and I don't like it situations.
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God drat that is spot ON. Wow.
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I've been taking Vyvanse for about 2 years now and about a year in, I've started to sweat profusely, regardless of the temp (only cool blowing air solves it). Prior to this, I was not a sweating person. At all. Even in high anxiety situations. Vyvanse has changed my life. We started at 60mg (didn't really sweat), dropped to 50, and now I'm holding at 30. Right now I'm sitting in my apartment by myself, zero stressors, it's 10pm at night and I'm sweating during the onset. It's baffling and really loving annoying. Everything I've read says to make a dermo appt, obviously, and I have, but in the meantime is there anything immediate I can do? OTC creams?
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96 spacejam posted:I've been taking Vyvanse for about 2 years now and about a year in, I've started to sweat profusely, regardless of the temp (only cool blowing air solves it). Ooh, this might be happening to me
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mfcrocker posted:Ooh, this might be happening to me I had to flip my schedule today to adhere to China's timezone, it's 4:47a on the west coast right now and 62 in my house. I took a break to read for a bit and the moment I was a page in, water just rushes to the surface of my skin. I was dripping sweat off my nose ffs. 3 minutes later it stops and I'm freezing. Vyvanse, you've changed my life for the better but what the gently caress dude
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I got diagnosed ADHD (inattentive) a few years ago, but after a year or so the stimulants triggered a manic episode, which is how we found out I'm also bipolar. My psych dropped the ADHD medication, put me on bipolar medication, and we didn't really talk about it again. I miss having my poo poo together. Is anyone in my situation getting their adhd treated?
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Cheston posted:I got diagnosed ADHD (inattentive) a few years ago, but after a year or so the stimulants triggered a manic episode, which is how we found out I'm also bipolar. My psych dropped the ADHD medication, put me on bipolar medication, and we didn't really talk about it again. I miss having my poo poo together. Is anyone in my situation getting their adhd treated? Bipolar 2 here. Lifetime of your pain. It's only been the last 3 years where I've been able to work with my psychologist and psychiatrist to find a perfect balance of Lamictal (200mg), and Vyvanse (30mg). I can PM you my story as it may give you some context on how to approach your situation. For example, there was a time period where I was also on Klonopin, just .5-1mg a day, but it removed most of the bipolar side-effects until the Lamictal was fully rolling through my system. PM goes for anyone. Mental health isn't your fault but it is your responsibility. Don't be shy. edit; If you know Vyvanse or a stimulant truly helps you, and you aren't an obvious junkie trying to get a script, a good psych will work with you instead of withholding. Having a stimulant trigger an episode is a poor reflection on that doctor, should something of note occurred. His training is telling him to play it super safe with you, I'm assuming. Honesty and trust go so loving far in a doctor/patient relationship. I feel like I have a voice with all of the specialists I've seen over the years (due to moves). 96 spacejam fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Aug 5, 2021 |
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96 spacejam posted:edit; If you know Vyvanse or a stimulant truly helps you, and you aren't an obvious junkie trying to get a script, a good psych will work with you instead of withholding. Having a stimulant trigger an episode is a poor reflection on that doctor, should something of note occurred. His training is telling him to play it super safe with you, I'm assuming. Honesty and trust go so loving far in a doctor/patient relationship. I feel like I have a voice with all of the specialists I've seen over the years (due to moves). In my experience it's best to talk about it and be kind of reluctant to use it again. That's what I've done, and it's true at least in my case, but it has worked. I used to be super overmedicated, and part of that was 70mg of adderall every day. My current psych has me on venlafaxine daily and ambien as needed for insomnia, and I told her I was thinking about trying a stimulant medication again because I am just in a constant fog at work. I informed her of a prescription I got for migraines just so she can check it on her end against stuff, and now I'm basically operating under a promise to my psych to use adderall but not too much, and to never use adderall and ambien in the same day. I gained her trust, and apparrently she believes me when I say I am wary of being overmedicated again. I have access, but as always it's on me not to abuse a medication when I have the bottle in my hand.
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signalnoise posted:In my experience it's best to talk about it and be kind of reluctant to use it again. That's what I've done, and it's true at least in my case, but it has worked. I used to be super overmedicated, and part of that was 70mg of adderall every day. My current psych has me on venlafaxine daily and ambien as needed for insomnia, and I told her I was thinking about trying a stimulant medication again because I am just in a constant fog at work. I informed her of a prescription I got for migraines just so she can check it on her end against stuff, and now I'm basically operating under a promise to my psych to use adderall but not too much, and to never use adderall and ambien in the same day. I gained her trust, and apparrently she believes me when I say I am wary of being overmedicated again. I have access, but as always it's on me not to abuse a medication when I have the bottle in my hand. That is probably some of the best advice, to be honest. It's also the hardest part for most people.
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Thanks all! I'd written off broaching it with my psych as an impossibility, I'll try to genuinely approach it.
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# ? Aug 5, 2021 21:34 |
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Cheston posted:Thanks all! I'd written off broaching it with my psych as an impossibility, I'll try to genuinely approach it. In my experience, a good psych will give a good response so long as you follow their suggestions, are honest, and act genuinely concerned about yourself. If they are too willing to give you a prescription for something you mention, you should be wary of that because they aren't there for you, they're there to get a repeat customer. You should, for example, be able to talk about illegal drugs you've taken in the past and given up, just so they have that information to get a better understanding of how chemicals work on you. You can think about it like someone taking your order at a restaurant, but there's no menu and you have to trust the server after telling them what you like. If you say specifically that you want lasagna, then you aren't really working with them. If the restaurant sucks, they'll bring you whatever makes them the most money, regardless of what you tell them. If they're good, then you tell them as much as you can about yourself, what you've liked in the past, and what hasn't been good. Then you're told to eat something, and if it all goes well then it'll be really good. You will never know if they suck until you give them the opportunity.
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# ? Aug 6, 2021 00:28 |
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To paraphrase Glegarry Glen Ross, your doctor is there to help you, not to gently caress you up.
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I'm about to move in with my girlfriend and it's making me super anxious. I don't want to be the rear end in a top hat who has to be reminded to do the dishes all the time. I've been there before.
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JayMax posted:I'm about to move in with my girlfriend and it's making me super anxious. I don't want to be the rear end in a top hat who has to be reminded to do the dishes all the time. I've been there before. Talk to your girlfriend about it. If you’re living together your ADHD is going to impact your partner to some degree, and open and honest communication is critical to having a healthy relationship anyway. Importantly, your partner has to understand that you’re not an rear end in a top hat, you have a neurodevelopmental disorder. That doesn’t excuse all your problems, but it does mean that tactics that work to get neurotypical folks to do things are just going to be stressful for you, and you’ll need to work together to figure out what else to do instead. Reminder apps? Chore charts? Just being okay with her needing to remind you about stuff a lot? All of these and more are acceptable answers, as long as you both agree on them, and that you can change them if they’re not working out.
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Arcsech posted:Talk to your girlfriend about it. If you’re living together your ADHD is going to impact your partner to some degree, and open and honest communication is critical to having a healthy relationship anyway. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my anxious venting. I guess I struggle to find a balance between my need for structure and reminders and such and not straddling her with all the mental workload. We have been talking about it, but it's still a work in progress.
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JayMax posted:Thanks for taking the time to respond to my anxious venting. I guess I struggle to find a balance between my need for structure and reminders and such and not straddling her with all the mental workload. Don’t we all. I don’t know if it’ll be useful, but I’ve found Due (unfortunately iOS only, though there’s probably something similar for Android) super useful - it’s a reminder app that’ll re-notify you periodically if you haven’t acknowledged the reminder, with super easy rescheduling if you need to postpone something. I use it to remind me to take my medication, trim my beard, and do laundry, among other things. You’ll get there - talking about it is half the battle, maybe more. A good partner will understand and support you as you try to figure this out.
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# ? Aug 12, 2021 00:41 |
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I've been thinking recently about how many unconscious coping mechanisms I developed growing up, some healthier than others. For instance, I was realizing that so many ways I've developed of managing things in my life involves removing as many impediments as possible, regardless of how small. That way, if my brain suddenly flips the switch that makes me think I could do dishes right now, I can just do them. If there's anything I'd have to do first, even really minor things, it creates a false barrier for my brain and I often just wouldn't do the thing. Basically, having to take advantage of my impulsivity to actually start something before my brain changes tack again. Once I started I would generally be fine, because I'd focus in and finish the thing to the exclusion of all else, so long as it wasn't really turning my brain off. Things are a bit better with the medication, though not perfect. Might try to ask my doctor to test a higher dosage and see what happens.
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JayMax posted:Thanks for taking the time to respond to my anxious venting. I guess I struggle to find a balance between my need for structure and reminders and such and not straddling her with all the mental workload. I've found that using my cell phone to remind me to do stuff works out fairly well, except for a few tasks that fell into the vortex of "I don't wannaaaaa" Sometimes I use multiple notifications for cases of, "No, you really need to get ready for this thing." Between that and having a whiteboard with things to do for each day, I keep up reasonably well. (Lists are helpful both to keep the tasks in my field of view and because I feel rewarded by crossing things off. You may want to adapt with whatever would make you feel rewarded.)
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