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Mechafunkzilla posted:Yeah, circadian rhythm stuff can co-occur with ADHD. Talk to a sleep specialist. I was in my nations largest sleep lab, got told to gently caress home because my issues weren't large enough to treat. Anyone been in the same situation, and what did you do?
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I've found a lot of helpful advice, tips, etc at https://www.additudemag.com. It's also helped me to understand my own ADHD better.
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I started medication last week at the age of 36. Amazing how easy my job is, when I can just think what I need to do and then just be able to do it. I have no idea how I survived this far without medication. The difference is just so unbelievable. It's a lot to process right now. What are things I can leave behind because I do not need to compensate anymore? And what are things I still need, because sadly I can't be on drugs 24/7.
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You are in the honeymoon phase right now. I think of it as walking around with weights on you all your life. The first few months without, you are fit as hell. But you will adjust to the new normal. It won't be as bad as it was before. (Hopefully) and you may or may not need to up your dose. But don't get rid of any stratigies that work for you, you may still need them in the future. Or not, everyone is different. BoneMonkey fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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Chazani posted:I started medication last week at the age of 36. As a fellow adult who was only diagnosed in the past couple years, keep an eye out for behavioral changes. One medication i was on, biphentin worked great until out of nowhere one day it made me really short tempered. The extra time I also now had caused me to have a lot of time in my own head which made my depression which i had compartmentalized for years start kicking my rear end all of a sudden, which is incredibly common with adult ADHD treatments. Make regular month or two check ins with your doc if you can to discuss any changes you've noticed before they snowball.
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I'm still on a very low dose of Concerta at the moment. The dosage will be upped this week. Some of the best highs are clearly gone by now, but the ease of starting and finishing things has remained. I am bit less energetic in the evenings, but good enough to study. Before medication this would have been completely impossible. I still feel that my job is really easy to do, and that might be a concern later on. Luckily, I work in a project, so there isn't a long-term job in this anyway. I've managed to spot and drop a lot of habits that are mostly a method of procrastination or maintaining control in a chaotic environment.For example, I can handle less structured mornings better, and I do not become totally useless, if something is at different place it's supposed to be. I do still use, and plan to keep all my scheduling and memory aid tools. I can do chores and remember stuff during the day, when my meds are full on, but in the evening it's obvious my working memory starts to suffer. It's also much harder to plan actions later in the day. That's why I probably won't be able to give up my notebooks and reminders, but that's alright. It's a good habit in general. Emotionally I've been quite stable, but I can certainly see why some get depressed on meds, or how it brings up all the old bad stuff. Lots of things I used to enjoy aren't that exciting anymore, but luckily most of that stuff wasn't particularly good for me anyway. Trading enjoying video games to enjoying books and studying is a good trade. The capability to focus on yourself tends to bring up lot of things from the past, but I've had to deal with all that before for other reasons. I do have good coping mechanisms and have a great possibility to talk about my emotions to my SO. Excited to see how the dosage increase affects me. Side effects haven't been too bad so far. I do need to learn to regulate myself though. I still have the tendency to take too much of stuff at the same time. I study math 2 nights per week, have courses on Computer Science at open university and currently applying to become a teacher. All while having a full-time job. I have like no skills at taking breaks or saving my energy. I'm not used to being able to take a small break and actually continuing what I do. So I just tend to work full speed for 4 hours and then wonder why I am tired. Hopefully I get to my senses soon about this, and figure out what I want to do when I grow up.
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Does anyone else with ADHD have trouble with day dreaming? Sometimes, it’s like I just can’t stop fantasizing about all sorts of things from just going to the bar with my friends to what my life will like when I’m homeowner in decade.
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Considering that's basically the stereotype for adhd inattentive type, I imagine you'll be in good company. I'm more shockingly forgetful type. I do day dream a lot.
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Oh......... I didn’t think that counted as daydreaming. Welp
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Yeah me either until I started meds and realised I wasn't doing that much any more, I framed it as I was just thinking about things.
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Knobb Manwich posted:Yeah me either until I started meds and realised I wasn't doing that much any more, I framed it as I was just thinking about things.  I've been thinking about a good way to explain that sort of thing to people who dont have ADD/ADHD. The best analogy I can come up with so far is my brain off meds acts like I'm walking a dog that's never been trained: it's constantly trying to run off in every single direction at constantly pulling me after. Whereas when I'm on my meds, it's like a trained dog that keeps my pace and, while it does occasionally pause to sniff at a tree or something, it still keeps calm and steady.
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I remember trying to explain this to a friend, years ago. "When I'm talking to somebody, it's like I just can't stop thinking--" "Oh, well, you certainly wouldn't want to THINK while having a conversation!" Thanks, dude.  It's so embarrassing. One time I was in a drat court room and the judge asked me something and I just said "Yes" because my mind had wandered away, and the whole room laughed. 
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Its like your brain is a beehive and all of bees are your thoughts and all of the bits of honeycomb are your memories and if you can get all the bees to do their goddamn job you feel like a genius. However your bees will never be organized because they're being assaulted by a bear yelling an ad jingle you heard once two years ago. The first symptom of ADHD is trying to find a good analogy for ADHD.
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YggiDee posted:The first symptom of ADHD is trying to find a good analogy for ADHD. Yeah. The first one I got was brains are horses, getting you where you need to go. With adhd, your horse can be fast as gently caress and it can run forever, but it's an absolute willful rear end in a top hat that only goes where it wants. Sometimes that lines up with where you're going, most times you're being taken for a ride. And humanity thinks they're centaurs. It came out better the first time I swear. I think that the time between when you first became aware adhd was possible and the time you started seeking diagnosis is an indicator. Been talking with family for a loving year now and they're still like "yeah i should do that! "
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Ha, my go-to analogy is that my mind is like a team of sled-dogs, and each one of those dogs is a really good runner but the driver is terrible and there's no harness connecting the dogs together. If, by some miracle, two of the dogs decide to run in the same direction, we might actually start making progress towards the goal....until one of them gets too tired, or another dog gets a whiff of something interesting behind some tree, or the driver freaks out and jumps off the sled. Meds harness the dogs together. I still have to train the dogs and the driver, and set the course.
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So, what's a good book for adult ADD? Is there a good book out there on ADD that involves thinking about careers, or where ADD is a plus in a career?
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Nebakenezzer posted:So, what's a good book for adult ADD? Is there a good book out there on ADD that involves thinking about careers, or where ADD is a plus in a career? All stuff I've seen so far has just been your regular career psychology stuff, with Big Five and nerd horoscopes. Most of the stuff in the books is about reflection and recognition. What is hard for you, what you are good at etc. If you aren't yet familiar with that stuff , picking up a book from a psychologist on the topic will be helpful. The one-liner that I use a lot in all career counseling, is aboyt focusing on career, not a job. My choice has been working on short projects in close enough fields. By the time I get bored, the project is close enough to end and I can just struggle through. Now is there a career where ADD is a benefit? Being a primarily ADD-type myself, I haven't yet found one. Some are just easier. I work in education/service design at the moment and it works for me. I get to fiddle with my plans and designs plenty enough, but I also educate and support people weekly. This gives me variance and working with always brings up new exciting stuff.
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From the combined experience of myself and other people, adhd hinders more than it helps in any job track. Even jobs where some traits of ADHD are desirable still has to contend with our very poor executive function, which is never desirable.
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Like Clockwork posted:From the combined experience of myself and other people, adhd hinders more than it helps in any job track. Even jobs where some traits of ADHD are desirable still has to contend with our very poor executive function, which is never desirable. This has pretty much been my experience; you can absolutely find a job where some of the ADHD traits are adaptive, or where your weaknesses are minimized-- the best example I can think of is any job where you're responding to urgent, novel situations frequently, especially if somewhat novel problem solving is required. That loops in at least two of the things that motivate ADHD brains (novelty and urgency, and possibly challenge). Anything we're passionate about will be easier to succeed at, because it motivates us by interest. Finding something where we're reliably motivated by at least one of those four things most of the time is our best bet. I'm an archaeologist, which is a mixed bag, but it's a very project based profession, so I'm rarely working in exactly the same place for more than a few days at a time, and I get to crunch my brain on interesting questions and challenges pretty frequently. (Actually, anecdotally, archaeology is completely stuffed with ADHD people; I'm not sure if there's some factor there other than the ones I noted but it's definitely a thing.) Ultimately, though, no job is going to motivate you all the time, and the other traits of your brain are going to be a hindrance at times, so building good coping skills and getting treatment are important on top of making sure you're in the right home and work environments. Quorum fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Makes sense, peeps, thanks. I ask about the career thing because I realize part of my problems in this area are not appreciating my strengths and interests, so I'm offically done trying to dictate to myself what I should be interested in. If there's any grain with ADD, I want to go with, not against, that. So what do people like in books for ADD? I definitely need to train my dogs
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Nebakenezzer posted:Makes sense, peeps, thanks. I ask about the career thing because I realize part of my problems in this area are not appreciating my strengths and interests, so I'm offically done trying to dictate to myself what I should be interested in. If there's any grain with ADD, I want to go with, not against, that. I like Russell Barkley's stuff, he's got both kids and adult versions of his book Taking Charge of ADHD. The original flavor was aimed at parents of kids with ADHD and has received an update since, but the adult one should still be fairly up to date.
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My favourite is sadly in finnish, but it might be useful to someone else later on: https://www.tammi.fi/kirja/anita-salakari/adhd-aikuisen-selviytymisopas-2-0/9789520406424
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Nebakenezzer posted:Makes sense, peeps, thanks. I ask about the career thing because I realize part of my problems in this area are not appreciating my strengths and interests, so I'm offically done trying to dictate to myself what I should be interested in. If there's any grain with ADD, I want to go with, not against, that. When my doctor and i first suspected I had ADD, I got Delivered from Distraction and liked it a lot. It made me feel seen. It deals with both child and adult ADD so it might not be fully what you're looking for. Still a nice, compassionate read.
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I've been seeing my psychiatrist about my ADHD for over a year now, and it's been going well. But I'm suspecting I may also be an aspie and I'm not sure how to broach the subject. I've been reading on Asperger's, and I fit some of the stereotypes (taking things too literally, not looking people in the eye when talking) but I feel like some of the other stuff could simply be my ADHD: - Difficulty reading people's emotions -> could be your ADHD making you jump to conclusions and miss important details - Wanting each thing to be in its proper place -> could be a learned strategy to compensate and work around your ADHD - Overwhelmed when there are too many people/too much noise -> could be your ADHD making you want to process all those inputs at once (ie not being able to filter and concentrate on the important stuff) I don't really believe in self-diagnosis, and that's why I want my psychiatrist opinion on this, but I want to do it right. So I wonder if goons have any input on the whole ADHD/Asperger comorbidity.
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Bourricot posted:I've been seeing my psychiatrist about my ADHD for over a year now, and it's been going well. But I'm suspecting I may also be an aspie and I'm not sure how to broach the subject. They can be co-occurring and differential diagnosis with high-functioning ASD is always challenging. Just ask about it.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Makes sense, peeps, thanks. I ask about the career thing because I realize part of my problems in this area are not appreciating my strengths and interests, so I'm offically done trying to dictate to myself what I should be interested in. If there's any grain with ADD, I want to go with, not against, that. Thomas Brown's book Outside the Box is my favorite (or the older edition, which is called Attention Deficit Disorder: The Unfocused Mind in Children and Adults). Most of the other books stray a little more into self-help, whereas Brown's book is just an incredibly comprehensive and educational overview. I recommend it to both patients and other clinicians.
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I think I am going to discuss ADHD with my GP in the New Year. 2-3 months ago I was frustrated with losing interest in something and googled "why can't I stick to a hobby?" and the first result was about ADHD, then reading on from there things really began to strike a chord with me. My biggest concern right now is around work. I honestly feel like I waste half my time at work and eventually it'll catch up to me. I have a good job but day-to-day there is very little accountability to anyone which is a real problem area for me. My main reportable deadlines are every couple of months and the work for those can be done in a couple of days, so it's done the couple of days before it's due and I probably work at a level I feel like I should be doing all the time. The rest of the time I will open a file and in the time it's taken to load I've switched to the browser I have open and fired up a new tab and go round the various forums I read, or I've picked up my phone and gone on Twitter/Facebook etc. I honestly feel like I could be (and should be) offering work so much more but I can't seem to do anything. I have loads of big projects I am trying to implement but they seem insurmountable most of the time, or they have a lot of tedious work to do initially and it takes such a long time for me to do. The issues at work are a reflection of how I've been going back as far as I can remember - where I have accountability only to myself I never put in the work needed. I was always fairly bright so through primary school and the first few years of secondary school I was near the top of class just on general ability. As the work needed outside of class increased my grades deteriorated. At GCSE I got 3 A's, 5 B's, a C & a D. My parents response to that was basically "you could have done better", which probably sounds harsh given they're a reasonable set of results seen in a vacuum, but they were right, I could have done better. A-Levels followed a similar pattern, I got D's in my main subjects. Somehow still got into my uni course with these results (It was before things got as competitive as they are now). University was even worse. I passed a resit exam in my first year when the exam was cancelled half an hour into a two hour exam due to a bomb scare - I'd literally answered everything I knew how to do by that point but the examiners decided if I'd had the full time I'd have answered enough to pass (I wouldn't). I ended up switching course from Astrophysics to History because it required less rote learning and essentially it was much more rewriting existing information. Most of my dissertation was done in the 36 hours before the deadline. I ended up passing with a 2:2 but I just looked at how much time my now wife put in to her studies and think about what I could have achieved with that level of work. I had 2 week spells where I didn't go to a single lecture. Somehow from there I got a job as a trainee accountant in a small accountancy firm. This type of work seems to suit me quite well, there are budgeted amounts of hours to stick to, you are regularly getting work reviewed and have accountability around that, along with regular deadlines. I have always been good with numbers too which helps. I didn't do particularly well with my exams again, failed a couple. A big firm would have got rid after failing one so I was lucky there (as I was with pretty much everything up to that point). The less said about my desk at work or my organisation at home the better. I desperately want to be organised but it just never happens. I will eventually get so fed up with the state of something that I will spend hours sorting a thing out, but probably only get 90% done then it just descends back how it was and the cycle repeats. Having a wife who doesn't seem that bothered about clutter and two young children really doesn't help - it gets increasingly frustrating to me as things get more messy but I can't ever stop it getting that way even if I do sort it out. I often find myself looking at my phone whilst in conversation with people, sometimes even in meetings at work, which I know is bad but again I can't seem to help myself. I guess I just wanted to vent a bit with my post. I feel like I'm just going to get told I'm just lazy or something and to be more organised, but I can't say how many different organising/self help systems I've tried and forgot to do after about a week. Even stupid stuff like remembering to do stretches as I have some issues with muscle tightness is a challenge. I just about remember if I am in pain but when I'm pain free it is literally out of my mind until I'm somewhere I can't do them (usually driving or in the shower). It's so frustrating.
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Nebakenezzer posted:So, what's a good book for adult ADD? Is there a good book out there on ADD that involves thinking about careers, or where ADD is a plus in a career? From earlier conversations I’ve had... You want to be in situations that are new, intense or energetic but also where you don’t have to be accurate the first time. You have to have some kind of cushion. It’s difficult to describe but I have to force myself to stay on the ball yet it works! I purposely schedule big work projects in advance so that I know I can’t not focus but what’s so weird is doing simple things like expense reports take me hours because it’s just so tedious.
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poshphil posted:I think I am going to discuss ADHD with my GP in the New Year. 2-3 months ago I was frustrated with losing interest in something and googled "why can't I stick to a hobby?" and the first result was about ADHD, then reading on from there things really began to strike a chord with me. Your experiences sound very similar to mine when it comes to work and studies ( also hobbies, but I do not want to talk about the money I have wasted on those, I am not yet ready for that.) It is definitely worth talking about it with your GP. It's not uncommon that "high-functioning" people manage to stumble through university without diagnosis. I started a PhD before I realised that I actually need help. For me the main reasons I went for the diagnosis were the feeling of underachieving and massive exhaustion after studying. Underachieving is of course always a relative matter, and that is why I like to use the term feeling of underachieving. Compared to many ADHD peers, I have a decent situation, but I still get the feeling that I could do much better. This is important because sometimes medical professionals can ignore your need for help, because you seem to do well. Those specialised to ADHD do it way less, but generalists often do this mistake. The feeling isn't harmless, because it can easily cause depression, stress and make you avoid improving your life. I also shared the issue of forgetting important exercises. My problem is with joints, which can basically take away my ability to walk for few weeks if I skip the routine. I never did it after the pain was away. Then I picked up again when walking starts to hurt. Chazani fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Dec 27, 2019 |
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YggiDee posted:I just moved to a new building and somewhere in the process I lost all my pills. I just bought those. I finally found those pills! I mean, they expired two years ago but it's the principle of the matter.
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Chazani posted:Your experiences sound very similar to mine when it comes to work and studies ( also hobbies, but I do not want to talk about the money I have wasted on those, I am not yet ready for that.) It is definitely worth talking about it with your GP. Thank you. I also have the same issue with money spent on hobbies and gadgets (The other day I picked up my iPad that is only a year old but generally gathers dust, it said my screen time was up 8,117% for an average of 4 minutes per day!). I think things have gotten worse in the last year especially. We moved house 12 months ago and with it being a new build there were various snags that needed sorting, I'll go 2-3 months at a time before I get round to chasing them up. Our youngest daughter started school but is in a different one to our eldest, so we are now having to juggle collections with a couple of other parents, plus after school activities for both of them and I am just in perpetual worry that it'll be me that should be fetching them from somewhere and they'll be left uncollected. Work is my bigger concern. Although I technically have a boss to be accountable to we really operate as a team and I am left to my own stuff. The two-monthly reporting reminds me I have some things I need to chase up but I am busy doing the reports and then it falls off the radar again. I now just worry constantly that it's going to catch up to me eventually. We have also talked a bit about me doing some more qualifications, possibly an MBA, but I don't want the company to spend that money if I know I'm not going to put the work in. The feeling of underachieving definitely strikes a chord with me. I saw a counsellor through work this year and described these feelings and they pointed out I was doing well, which from the outside I am, and I am lucky to be where I am, but I know I can offer more, and I just want to be more productive at home and at work.
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Chazani posted:It's not uncommon that "high-functioning" people manage to stumble through university without diagnosis. I started a PhD before I realised that I actually need help. That's good to know Though, as I completed my masters with diagnosed ADD and a poo poo-ton of mental health problems on top of that I still want a medal from the university
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poshphil posted:I think I am going to discuss ADHD with my GP in the New Year. Hi, Posh Phil. Your experience is really similar to my own and I just want to offer some support. Firstly your "should have done better" attitude to your grades is really unfair to yourself and I went through the same thing; if you weren't swimming against the tide you would probably have got better grades, but your brain literally wouldn't let you get started. People told me for several decades that I was lazy but in reality that wasn't true. Secondly you would probably be surprised by how crap people are at their jobs and how little they get done. If you're like me you will normally have procrastinated right up to the wire, and then become a hurricane of effort and energy when the consequences of loving up overcome the inertia of procrastination. It's easy to assume that should be your normal work rate or that other people's work rate is similar. It's not. Just ticking a few things off the list every day seems to get way more poo poo done than my colleagues. The key is getting started (and medication). You should definitely see a doctor about your brain. Personally I paid out of pocket for a private psychiatrist (in the UK), the cost wasn't too high and it was very straightforward. I used to be a constant ball of anxiety about gradually loving up my life but really don't feel like that nowadays.
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knox_harrington posted:Hi, Posh Phil. Your experience is really similar to my own and I just want to offer some support. Firstly your "should have done better" attitude to your grades is really unfair to yourself and I went through the same thing; if you weren't swimming against the tide you would probably have got better grades, but your brain literally wouldn't let you get started. People told me for several decades that I was lazy but in reality that wasn't true. Thank you for the support. I am booked in at the Doctor's Tuesday morning so hopefully that's the start of something! From a work perspective I have a staff member I manage who for me is amazing - they just get things done, and have to be honest taken over some things that I probably should be doing. I'd be struggling worse without them. I have a lot of things that aren't critical, I don't really need to report on, but in longer timescales are important to sort. But I never have the deadline pressure that I need. In my last job I ended up going so far as to edit the HOSTS file in windows to block various websites I didn't need to go on. Now I have a pomodoro timer that blocks access, but I never quite remember to start them...
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So I just finished a clinical drug trial for ADHD (and I got the placebo out of a 1/3 chance) and am in the long term open label version of the study now where I get the actual study drug. https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03605849 I've never had any meds before so I can't really compare it to any of the stimulant meds, but this stuff is really, really incredible. It's a pretty mild so far but it makes everything 20% easier with no side effect. It's just a little bit easier to avoid my mind wandering off, things happen in a slightly more orderly fashion, I'm less prone to ignoring important things (tasks or projects or whatever) and changes to my routine feel like less of a big deal. The most ADHD part of this whole thing is I have absolutely zero idea how I was matched with the study. I got a call from a patient placement company that I apparently signed up with and they just transferred me over to the research company that runs the trial in this area.
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Hypnolobster posted:The most ADHD part of this whole thing is I have absolutely zero idea how I was matched with the study. I got a call from a patient placement company that I apparently signed up with and they just transferred me over to the research company that runs the trial in this area. That rules, buddy! Hey, drop is a lone when that med goes public, then we can trundle up the the pharmacists and tell them a goon had a hand in making it! Anyways, I quoted that specific portion of your because it reminds me of a question i had pop up in my mind: does anybody else have memory problems? I feel like in these last few years I have been having a hard time keeping new memories locked in my brain, while some specific details just get etched in the ol' noggin in a way that I'll never forget them. Theres no rhyme or reason to what I remember and what I dont. I've always had these issues but I suspect they've gotten stronger in these last two years or so.
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Hypnolobster posted:So I just finished a clinical drug trial for ADHD (and I got the placebo out of a 1/3 chance) and am in the long term open label version of the study now where I get the actual study drug. Having looked up the study it's for a drug with a lower abuse potential than stimulant drugs. That may be fine but a) stimulant drugs work and are around the most effective of any treatment for any disorder; and b) I worry a bit that this will get in the way of some people getting the best possible treatment because "stims bad".
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knox_harrington posted:Having looked up the study it's for a drug with a lower abuse potential than stimulant drugs. That may be fine but a) stimulant drugs work and are around the most effective of any treatment for any disorder; and b) I worry a bit that this will get in the way of some people getting the best possible treatment because "stims bad". True, but there are already what.. 3 or 4 non stimulant ADHD-ish meds being prescribed instead of stimulants for that reason. At least this one is a full blown SNDRI instead of a worthless antihypertensive or other unrelated drug.
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It probably works great since cocaine is also a SNDRI and if there's one thing I've learned from working with people with ADHD it's that they fuckin love coke
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