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foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

:aaaaa: I never knew there was a name for what I do. Cluttering is a huge part of the reason why Im so anxious socially since when I talk but end up flailing about I just get embarrassed and dont paint myself in a strong light. People have lost respect for me, and some of the issues I have at work is because the main guy who is supposed to train me and Im supposed to work directly with has one of those overbearing critical personalities and assumes im a dumbass.

I'm not sure that I've got exactly the same thing going on, but I definitely lose track of where sentences are going sometimes and have some (rudimentary) strategies for dealing with it:

In more formal discussions, or whenever I've got a while in between speaking (worked best in classroom, but basic idea translates pretty well to meetings at least) I write down a quick, couple bullet point outline of what I want to say right before. Coming in to whatever it is, I also try and just outline a few thoughts about whatever I think will come up. Some of this is just generally being prepared, but I find it really helps to have prep with an adhoc 'script', especially when I'm trying to get across something complicated/with a lot of moving parts. Or just so I don't randomly forget whatever I'm intending to say...

In general, it can also help to just like, walk through/prep beforehand for social situations that come up a lot that are difficult. Like, if there's consistent patterns of ways that you're having stressful/lovely/generally difficult interactions with your boss or whoever, it can really help to just think through responses/what to say (in a structured way, not following a series of anxious what-ifs or what have you).

A good, more formal way of doing that latter thing would be a DBT or CBT program/workbook/group, both types of therapy are very heavy on processes and frameworks to help with this kind of stuff.

Generally it's just a tough thing to deal with, but practice, meds, and just keeping on trying can help, good luck! I'm sorry people are being lovely about it though, that's just about the least helpful thing.

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foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

Do you all think a psychiatrist's opinion is in order? Personally I don't feel like I need daily meds, but there are still days that are incredibly tough to get through and leave me frazzled for almost a week afterward.

I'm inattentive type as well so this might not apply, but otherwise have the same combo. I've found that having meds that you don't take every day, I. E. shorter release stuff can help on particularly tough days, and can be a good supplement to help make it easier to build/maintain good habits. I think even if eventually you don't need need them, or sue them occasionally, it can be worth trying at least to see if it can make things easier.

Sounds like you've got a good plan already, but probably worth trying.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

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Tias posted:

A) Medicine is very cheap here, and I have a cooperative doctor who would probably prescribe me whatever drug I thought could help me. I have formerly used Strattera, which didn't help, and methylphenidate, which gave me bad panic attacks. However, I was an active addict and alcoholic when I last tried medication( clean for nearly 4 years now), and so perhaps it could help at this point.

Nthing that meds help. Also, a lot of adhd meds can have bad interactions with drugs/alcohol (methylphenidate at least will really do bad things if you drink much) so it's likely that trying out different adhd meds again will work better now. Try stuff and see what works imo, it's very good for getting started.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

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BoneMonkey posted:

Yo you guys got any tips on going the gently caress to sleep. I'm doing all the right things here but my real problem is I just don't want to.
And I can not get my brain to stop thinking about every bloody thing that I have had a passing interest in.

Man I really need to sleep.

Seconding sleep specialist. Also, melatonin (you can get gummies or what have you), turning off electronics half an hour before sleep, keeping a reliable sleep schedule, etc.

For me though just dosing myself up on melatonin works, but I think it's also probably making it so I have an even harder time sleeping without it, so idk if I'd recommend that option.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:
I'd imagine it might be less about the exploration and more about the "here's a thing you can sink a ton of time into and feel like you're achieving something as you gain mastery but also you're depressed /have adhd and are doing it in part because you aren't up for doing other stuff".

I think it's less that it's necessarily going to help you but more that it feeds into the kind of problematic patterns of adhd/depression. Back in the day my couple hundred hours of starcraft 2 definitely worked the same way.

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