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Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

LyonsLions posted:

My question to the people in the thread is, what can your employers and bosses do to make it easier for you to do your job? I know it's different for everyone, but do you have some general suggestions? In the case I mentioned, I felt really bad that I wasn't as understanding as I should have been, because at first I didn't realize she had a problem, and thought she was just a flighty slacker.

Help us be and stay organized. And for the love of god - just tell me what to do. We're bad enough keeping ourselves on-task the last thing we should be doing is telling other people what to do.

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Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
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Rushputin posted:



I don't know if it's just me but it feels like I can focus better when I'm high. Am I actually focusing more? Probably not.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Dolemite posted:

Cool. I ended up going with a small cup of tea that says to have about 46mg of caffeine in it. So far, I feel fine. No withdrawal symptoms. I may just try not having any coffee or anything tomorrow and see how that goes.

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I don't know if it's placebo or not, but I think I am feeling a difference already on the Adderall (this morning I literally took my first dose ever). The focused, ability to concentrate feeling I drink a ton of coffee to get, I am feeling that right now.

But, the ability to focus feels 'stronger'. But, in a smooth way. It's hard to describe. But it's like a stronger ability to concentrate than I get from 3 cups of coffee, without the nasty jitters, upset stomach, and crashing that comes from coffee.

I feel that I can still wander off task, but now I am able to recognize that I have wandered off task and go back to what I was doing with no issues. Before, it took a LOT of effort to resume work after I started loving off on the internet. Then, when I resume work, I can work with the intensity that I could only muster when working on the VERY narrow list of things I enjoy doing.

Heh, that's an excellent description of ADHD and the affects of Adderall. Though, I wonder is an ADHD person with Adderall a normal person now? If so, goddamn all you normal people got it so easy!

EDIT - On the subject of adderall, did anyone absolutely hate Ritalin,Strattera,etc but found adderall was the only one that worked well.

Crosby B. Alfred fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Feb 17, 2011

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

TheGopher posted:

As time goes on, you'll notice less of "HOLY poo poo I FEEL loving UNSTOPPABLE. COME AT ME BROS!" and more of, "Ugh I hate my job, but I have a ton of work to do and I can stay focused on the job at hand so I can get to other tasks later." You will have a more subtle reaction to the medication as time goes on, but there is a striking difference between being on Adderall and being off it, even when it's not completely

I don't know about the rest of you, but I was prescribed 20MG, I break up my pills into thirds and there's still a subtle effect but totally worth. The first time I took adderall, I wondered why I was shaking so much later that evening, it was because I hadn't had anything to eat all day, I totally forgot.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Has anyone here been on Adderall for an extended period of time, as in more than a year? Did you notice any increase in tolerance?

I'm asking because, this drug is like a miracle but what happens when it simply stops working?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

TheGopher posted:

Um, 30mg is the maximum dose for adderall. This is what I take twice a day, and I've been taking it for like 8 months now.

How the hell are you not high as gently caress all the time?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

TheBigBad posted:

Have you guys seen the movie with Bradley Cooper called Limitless?

Yea, it is unbelievably similar to adderall.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
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Effexxor posted:

learn some good coping mechanisms.

Could someone list a few of these they actually use and work?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Yea, that's actually really effective but aside from that you know that little switch on think-pad's that disable the wireless? Holy gently caress, whoever invented that should be given a peace prize.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Account and ADHD? Are you... Serious?

That's like torture...

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Generic Adderall. drat, do I enjoying paying $18 vs. $120.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Thunder from Down Under posted:

I never experienced any crashes like what I hear people talk about.

If you don't abuse the drug, this won't happen.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Has anyone had to do ADHD re-testing?

I've 28 years old and I've been on/off the lowest dose of adderall. I use it when I need it and don't because it's expensive, makes turn me into a bigger rear end in a top hat than I already am and I don't want to develop a tolerance because it helps me tremendously.

My local doctor told me all the sudden I need ADHD re-testing and i'm suppose to have it every 4-7 years. The last time I had it was sometime in '97 and I am pretty certain no one grows out of ADD...

The testing takes up an entire day and costs a $1,000. This is ridiculous, who else has had to jump through the same hoops?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

They told me to give me insurance company codes 96118 or 96119? Google tells me this for Central Nervous System Testing?

Ugh... why does everything have to be so complicated?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

It sounds like, I should do something differently instead like ask for a specialist but how do go about this exactly?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Often when I write emails, a post on SA, paragraphs fill in themselves. I know the difference between there, their and they're but when I'm typing it just doesn't ever get implemented. Sometimes I just miss words and the first time I re-read what I wrote it looks great but the second or third time I'll notice that I'm missing a few things.

I also have a unhealthy amount of unfinished projects and I have an incredibly low tolerance towards any kind of noise while I'm working. I also prefer public speaking as opposed to any kind of meeting. The second I leave any meeting I'll notice I missed a ton of little things I just missed or should have said. When I'm on the phone or with a group of people it's often confusing to me when it is or isn't my turn to speak.

Is this ADD?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

What kind of career choices are recommended for those with ADD?

I'm IT but it feels like I just simply get bored with whatever position I have after a year or two. I considering bouncing to analytic position at a bank just to try and find something that continually interests me.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Whalley posted:

It's a shame it doesn't pay well at all, because being a barista was great for me, what with constantly changing people, staff, and only having super short tasks to do, each one being slightly different. Since I've started taking meds, I've been learning programming, and I can see web development being something I will do for a long time, because ultimately, technologies are constantly changing and you get near-instant gratification with your work, but I've also talked to other people with ADHD who loving despise the idea of coding a web app and all the weird little controllers and dependencies you wind up shifting around for every single project.

I actually don't mind programming but that means I'd have to start my entire career over and going back to school. That's a hard sell when I'm nearly 30.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Marv Albert posted:

You need to get your ADHD well medicated before you should even ponder the question "what's a good ADHD job?"

The reason I brought this up, was due to this article A Natural Fix for A.D.H.D.

I ended up dropping out of college but somehow managed to climb through various IT jobs to the point where I don't need to go back and get a degree. In retrospect this was a terrible idea but again it's worked out for me.

I used to be on the lowest dose of adderall but my general doctor says I need to take test 96118 or 96119 before she can prescribe me adderall again. I tested positive for ADD when I was kid and I'm little skeptical of her claim but my insurance will cover testing so...

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

What's the name of your ADHD specialist?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

When not on Adderall I work differently.

I'll see an email, read it, start typing a response but get distracted by another email that just came in and start reading that. Then out of the blue I'll remember there's a server I need to check on that's rebooting, then I'll start looking through the server logs from last week with that other application problem. Suddenly, I'll remember that email I didn't finish start working on that then remember one of my co-workers just got back from vacation and I should see how it went.

When I'm on Adderall, I'll start doing stuff like this but I'll notice more often that I'm getting distracted and stay on one thing at a time.

I'm also never hungry, any kind of minor noise pisses me off immensely and I'm more of a emotionless rear end in a top hat.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

I guess I never had that problem. I never got angry to point where I couldn't control my anger but I felt more agitated by small interruptions that wouldn't typically bother me.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

It's not going to make you irritable but any kind of psycho-stimulant may potentially increase or decrease certain feelings such as anger, sadness, depression, etc

For the record, I took the lowest dose? I think at one point I started splitting my pills in two. This had all the focus benefits without feeling cracked out.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

I only took my adderall during the work week mostly because I'm concerned about gaining a tolerance.

It works wonders and I'd hate to see that go away.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

That's about right and I also schedule a hell of a lot more things nearly months out. Not sure if that's an ADD thing but I need more consistency in my life.

This can drive a lot of my friends and family mad but it works well.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

I don't know about the rest of you but I don't mind driving excluding rush hour or mind-numbing interstate driving where it's just perpetually empty.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Does anyone have any tips for getting stuff done, aside from pills. I feel like my life essentially consists of a bunch of half finished projects

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
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Begby posted:



When I am really into something, like hyper focusing and really kicking rear end, then I know its time to set back and do something else. This is actually pretty hard for me to do and takes some will power, because at that point whatever I am doing is fun as hell, even cleaning a sewer could be fun if you are focused and just getting poo poo done. However if I force myself to stop, the next day I find that model tank to still be compelling, or that coding project for work is easy to dive back into. When that wall comes, its really hard to get back into it.

Just so I'm following you, when you're super into something and getting work done you prematurely stop yourself to maintain interest?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Also, I took either 96118 or 96119 two weeks ago and according to my doctor I show clear symptoms of ADD/ADHD. I get my pills back.

I'm also $1,000 poorer.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

http://imgur.com/gallery/nVJqnSl

Does anybody else find this kinda worrying? The jist of the story is the 7 year old kid can't fit in due to his Adhd and other disabilities so the parents got him into starcraft and streaming. He's now 9 years old and still playing them, from the sounds of it, several hours a day. The parents basically use it as a reward for when he does chores.

I understand it's a kid thing where it's fun and hopefully harmless, but on the other hand I basically was left to my own devices with games and grew up to be so addicted to mmo's that I've lost probably over a year of my life to them alone. It also feels like they're setting him up to fail instead of getting him interested in something more useful later in life, even just physical exercise or some sort of hands on hobby away from the computer. The OP even admits that the kid is still struggling to fit in at school. To me it sounds like the kid is just going to get even more stunted socially as time goes on and will waste a lot of his more important years developing into a 4chan online nerd.

I'm probably projecting my own failures on the kid's future so what does everyone else think about it?

We all have our quirks and video games are a legitimate hobby it depends on how much time they let him play.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

How much are you guys being charged for Adderall? Does your insurance cover it?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Well, gently caress medica

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

I don't have problems getting up the morning but the rest are definitely an indication.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Baby Babbeh posted:

On therapy: Yes. CBT is great for ADHD it helps you to recognize when your mind is going off in unproductive directions and reign it in before it's too late. It's not a replacement for medication, in my opinion, because when you're not medicated you might not have the capacity to pull yourself out of a dive even if you notice it happening. But it can help you to make the best use of the space that medication affords you. Try to find a therapist who specializes in ADHD, because they can also usually help you with organizational strategies and suggest small tweaks to your routines that will make a big difference. If your psych does a lot of ADHD treatment, they might have suggestions of local people who are good.

I've been on several ADHD/ADD medications and the only one that's ever been worth a drat is Adderall. A single 5MG pill, the lowest does, in the morning has made a huge difference. While this worked wonders for me it may not work for you, talk to your doctor.

On another note, my health insurance sucks is there a way to get CBT through a book?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Trying to treat ADHD by training your working memory is like trying to treat muscular dystrophy by doing pushups.

You might be better of than you would be without doing it, but it's not going to solve your issues. You're probably going to be happier accepting your limitations and finding ways to work around them than by putting in ten times as much effort to make something that's broken slightly more functional.

Going by that train of thought no one with any kind of illness, disorder should seek treatment.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Mechafunkzilla posted:

What I mean is that when you have organizational problems due to ADHD, trying to fix them by improving your working memory rather than finding organizational strategies that acknowledge your impairment and work around it is like swimming upstream.

Where did you see anyone suggesting we improve our working memory?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

Does anyone have any way to budget?

All my necessities such rent, cell phone, car insurance are auto-deducted from my bank account but luxurious like electronics, booze are put on the CC. That's paid off at the end of the month forcing my to recognize the crap I'm buying. Of course, I'm responsible enough to always pay off the CC.

AllPraiseToAllah posted:

So uh, what's a good job for someone with ADD?

Anything that takes a lot of attention to detail but you're able to press CTRL-Z!

IT/Programming tend to work well as you're able to "test" what you're doing before you actually do it.

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

Have you told your doctor about that? I'd stop using it ASAP.

Question for the thread, is there a difference between a 5MG and a 10MG Adderall prescription? I didn't up my dosage but the pharmacist recommended 10MG as I may split the pills and it's cheaper but I almost feel like the effect is gone?

It's like I received bunk pills and someone told me I could have been given a trial. Would my doctor even do that for someone who's been diagnosed as a child and as an adult for ADHD?

Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
Cosby B. Alright

What goes on at a ADHD Support group?

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Crosby B. Alfred
May 20, 2006
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Anyone ever have to sign a Stimulant Medication Agreement?

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