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Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

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In tutorials mention that gesso is poo poo and don't listen to anyone who wants to spend hours undercoating instead of minutes.

Also, I have a Trollblood warpack lying around at home that has no chance of selling so I am thinking of painting them in the most possibly offensive way in the eye of Privateer Press fanboys. I am thinking ultramarine colourscheme with upside down omega's.







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Aranan posted:

Haha, do it! That's be awesome.

Question: Do people usually use different brushes for normal and metallic paints?

I have heard of those hard core european painters doing it, but it is a bit extreme otherwise.

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PaintVagrant posted:

I use my old s7 brushes for metallics, and my new ones for non-metallics. Metallics are very harsh on brushes :\

Yeah I have noticed that actually.

I get by with the one set of lovely synthetic brushes that cost $2-3 from the craft store. I should really invest in some s7 windsor and newton brushes. I can get them cheaper online rather than buying locally but I have always been a bit aprehensive about ordering them because I just picture them arriving with bristles poking every which way.

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Feb 11, 2007

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bobvonunheil posted:

As soon as I get my camera working, I am so gonna fill this thread with my crappy paintjobs so as to get some constructive criticism.

First question though: How the heck is blending/feathering supposed to work? I want to do a red cape that fades to orange at the base, my idea so far is thus:
- Basecoat in Mechrite Red, wait to dry
- Coat bottom of cloak in Macharius Solar Orange, then dry out the brush and brush upwards from the still-wet orange paint
- Badab Black up in this bitch
- Drybrush with Golden Yellow

Thoughts? I'm kind of at a loss on how to do this, and want to give it a shot while I still have an assload of Descent models to paint

[EDIT] On testing, it seems that the above method blows chunks, and the best way to go is with judicious drybrushing of orange from the bottom up

Basically the idea with blending is getting a smooth transition of colour by basically mixing it while it is still wet on the model. It is pretty hard to do, especially with foundation paints, and you can get similar results with lots of layering.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

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crime fighting hog posted:

Those metal shoulder pads are smaller than plastic ones. Way to go GW.

Pretty sure this is because they were made during second ed. It is annoying though.

You dudes doing eldar should be stealing these monochromatic schemes, they look amazing.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

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crime fighting hog posted:

What's everyone's recipe for rust? I just use boltgun with increasing amounts of orange, but I figured someone here knows better without buying some weather powders.

Protip if you don't want to buy/can't find weathering powder, use ground up artist pastels (not oil pastels obviously). It is the same poo poo, cheaper, and there is a wider variety of colours.

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Feb 11, 2007

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FROOOOOOOOG posted:

Goons: What's the difference between the different varieties of Milliput?

I am pretty sure it is just how fine it is. A lot of the top painters around (Sebastian Archer et al) like to use regular miliput mixed with water and painted on to fill the imperfection in a model and then sand it back so it is smooth.

Fake edit. I just googled milliput and there are different colours for different uses. I have only hear about grey/yellow and superfine white being used for modelling. Stick to them I would say.

Is there any particular thing you are wanting to do with it?

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Fix posted:

Jesus gently caress:





Those are Jamie Downward's models. Basically they were painted with a mix of airbrush and just brush. He airbrushed on the main colour (the grey green) and then airbrushed on a highlight from above the model to get a zenithal light effect, that he then went and refined with a paintbrush. This dude has won a heap of Australian Golden Demons. No offence meant to PV, but they blow his models out of the water

The dude with the double handed axe and horned helmet was painted by Sebastian Archer, and he didn't use an airbrush. He has won a couple of Australian Slayer Swords and a heap more Golden Demons, I thinka couple in the UK as well.

They both post on Oz Painters, which has some ridiculous number of good painters posting fairly regularly (from around the world, not just Australia)

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PaintVagrant posted:

Anything with good zenith lighting and blends like that = super rad

You got it. I basically take anything that Sebastian Archer says as gospel, and Jamie Downward is hugely influeced by his painting as well, especially in colour choices. I will be trying out some of Sebs techniques in painting the 2000 GD Black Orc for display, and possibly entry into the Golden Demon next year.

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PaintVagrant posted:

Not sure if anyone here reads no quarter (privateer press rag) but there is a "speed painting" article where the painter basically uses primer to created zenith highlighting, then just uses washes over it.

So a coat of black primer, then a light coat of white, sprayed downward on the model. After that dries he uses a bunch of thinned paints/inks.

It looks ballin, and it seems pretty easy to do.

Curse or Beers is a commission painter over on The Warhammer Forum and does something like this as well, up close the models aren't that great, but across a unit or army, it looks amazing.

Here are some links to his threads:

http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewt...t=45082&start=0

PV, does the effect end up something like this? I think me might spray black, base coat, then spray white then do washes though.

High Elves: http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewt...t=45082&start=0

VC with a lot of source lighting, meant to look like an army at night time:
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewt...t=40191&start=0

I think using an airbrush would work better than spray cans, as you should be able to get a finer mist, in some pics of those army you can see splotchy spray, but you should be able to eliminate that with an airbrush.

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MinionOfCthulhu posted:

I have a crazy question. How would I go about replacing the flag on this guy?



I have a unit of Longgunners but they're for my Merc army, so a flag with the Cygnar swan on it doesn't appeal to me. I'm not really sure what I'd replace it with, only that I'd rather not fly the Cygnar colors.

Simply snip of the bannerat the models hand (both the top and the bottom), find some generic warhammer banner (empire or dark elf corsair banners are the first that spring to my mind that would suit the model) and drill a suitable sized hole through the hand and the banner and insert some brass rod to length. Simple.

Big Willy Style fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Aug 8, 2010

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enri posted:

See this is my problem, I used to treat every model this way but realised it wasn't a realistic approach to gaming with a painted army.. but, in my haste to get a painted army, I think I've applied the speed painting logic to everything. I should try to correct that I guess :/

But first.. mad painting project that I can lavish a lot of time and effort on

I am in this boat at the moment. I have to paint a 3000 odd point ork army, 3000+ point Dark Elf army, 2000pt Eldar army and 2000 odd point WoC army. My plan is to do a solid, neat table top standard on them all, then go back and make them prettier when I have them all done.

My only painted army is my Deathguard, and I started them 3 or 4 years ago and the paint job, while good, is a bit dated, and they are painted in a way that I can't really touch up, which is a bummer because my painting is a lot better now.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

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So I have a boring night job where I have lots of spare time, so I have started to take models to work and paint them in the spare time I have. I might start doing nightly updates. Here is my work tonight so far. Some cold ones for my Dark Elves. Gonna be orange and dark grey/green. Undercoated with Fiddly Bits grey primer ($3.50 AUD a can), just a light spray to give the model some tooth. Hoping to have the orange done tonight on them. Pictures are off my phone, so aren't very good, but I can upload directly to photobucket with them, so it is pretty good for updates.





Basecoat of Sanguine base on the scales, fairly watered down, becasue I will be layering blood red over them all. Gonna be tedious. Will update in a few hours.

EDIT:

Yeah, so gently caress layering on the blood red, I dry brushed it. Will layer on the orange and yellow, however.

Big Willy Style fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Nov 24, 2010

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Feb 11, 2007

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So the orange was looking to fake layered on, so I went with a drybrush of it as well, and just a highlight of the yellow, which ended up being half drybrushed anyway. I haven't really drybrushed anything other than bases in a while, but it suits the really small scales for the cold ones.



Orange on



Yellow



And that will probably be it for the night, because I thought the scales were going to take forever and only packed the paints to do the orange, and not the grey.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

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So this is how my cold ones are looking at the moment.



Imagine this x8 for the whole group and you get an idea of what they are looking like. I am thinking of doing one more highlight on the fleshy bits. The flesh is Chardonite Granite (or whatever it is called, the foundation paint) base, adding Coat D'Arms Putrid Green (Rotting Flesh GW) for the highlights.

I still haven't decided how to paint my acrtual dark elves, so that is why I started with the cold ones because. I am thinking black highlighted with green, sort of like the new dark eldar are done, or with purple.

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^^
Really digging those Iron Warriors. I think the models would stand out a bit better if you had a lighter shade of base. Maybe chardon granite drybrushed with lgiht greys then dheneb stone would do the trick.

AbdominalSnowman posted:

That looks awesome, is it just drybrushed? Works well on that sculpt if so. For your actual elves I would go with purple, the cold ones have those yellow undertones which complements purple well. Green might look a little christmas-y.

To the guy a few posts above trying to identify that terrain piece: Looks like a pump to me too, you could probably pick up a few for really cheap from a plumbing supply store. If they don't have them I guarantee you will walk away with something anyway, plumbing shops have so much poo poo that is perfect for terrain and bits.

The scales are essentially just drybrushed/overbrushed, the rest is layered. I am toying with a gold armour at the moment, with green and purple washes and dark purple cloth to compliment I think. It is essentially yellow and purple colour combo then, and that should be fairly striking.

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Tadhg posted:



That is exactly what I need right now; I'm having difficulty choosing/mixing shade and highlight colors. With more experience I'm sure I'll be able to eyeball it better, but being able have some prechosen depth colors for a given paint sounds awesome.

If you are keen on the 3 shade sets, then Foundry do the same thing with their paints and as I understand it, Coat D'Arms makes their paints (and p3 paints) so the quality should be good.

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Killer_Bees! posted:

So quick question, I have got back into the hobby after a couple years hiatus and I need to get my hands on a large amount of spraypaint/undercoat. I walk into my local GW reseller and find GW cans at $22 Aus!!! so what do you Aus warhams recommend for undercoat and priming large amounts of models without being gouged by our terrible Australian pricing. I did pick up some sepia wash and devlin mud, god drat this stuff is like magic.

My go to primer right now is Fiddly Bits grey primer. At around $3 a can I find it hard to go past. Also, you get the easier coverage that comes with a white undercoat, but if you miss a spot it doesn't matter too much because it isn't as obvious as white.

Please don't use gesso, it takes too long to prime and it leaves a chalky residue to the model that is horrible to paint on.

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Calico Noose posted:

Personally i use Fiddly Bits flat black and i've had no complaints. That said i'm an average painter at best and i've never used anything else to prime so for all i know it's terrible and switching it for something else could vastly improve my painting.

Fiddly Bits flat black is ok, it goes on a little thick though, but will work. The problem is that it is not a primer. You want a surface for you paint to stick to and a primer is the best way to do this rather than just a spray paint.

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Tadhg posted:

Anybody have a good source on brown/grey stuff? All that I've been able to find on the web is repackaged brown stuff from GF9, and it's $10 for a tiny amount. I buy my green stuff in long rolls for pretty cheap, I imagine that there must be something similar out there for brown stuff.

The greenstuff bitz I've cast via InstaMold have come out great, but they don't clean up very well thanks to greenstuff still being flexible when it dries. It's like trying to file lines off of vending machine capsule toys. I've been recommended brown stuff, as it dries much harder; just can't source it.

I think you would be best ditching both materials all together. I used Easycast, which is a two part polyurethane resin that starts setting almost instantly. I used it for basic one part and two part molds. When doing a two part mould, simply spray the mould with some release agent, pour in the resin in both sides of the mould and have a toothpick on hand to get rid of air bubbles. When you notice the liquid starting to become white and cloudy (this means it is setting) quickly put the two pieces together. It is a little messy, but very simple. It takes about 10 minutes to dry too so you get quicker production time as well.

Here is where I buy the product in Australia, you would be able to find similar products wherever you are I would imagine. I reckon it owuld work out cheaper than GS or BS

http://www.amcsupplies.com.au/index...Path=19_495_273

Milliput dries rock hard and is easily sanded, and is not flexible at all, it is also water soluble. It is totally different to work with than greenstuff. I am not sure how it owuld preform in moulding.

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P3 Menoth white base is nice, but is a bit darker than bleached bone I think. p3 also make menoth white highlight which is a really nice slightly off white. Coat D'Arms make an equivalent colour that is good as well, but I can't remember the name of it. (The company that make P3 paints makes Coat D'Arms as well as Foundry paints.)

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Feb 11, 2007

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The thing I've always hated with that big cryx wing dude is that the model looks like it is sculpted by a professional and then the wings look like skewers with plasticine awkwardly draped over them by a downy.

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Sole.Sushi posted:

Someone tell me how to make an awesome light-box. I'm sick of my models looking like crap.

Get a cardboard box, remove the opening flaps, cut windows in 4 of the sides (leaving one for the base) and then tape some baking paper/parchment paper or whatever to diffuse the light.

Also, Eyespy, ditch the blue edge, go dark grey or something instead, it is drawing the eye away from the miniature. If you do wnat a blue edge, at least make it darker.

Also, add some flock to the bases.

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Got bored on the weekend, had this guy sitting in my ute for ages, thought I would do a clever little conversion. He is from the 420th Valhallan regiment or something I don't fuckin know military poo poo.

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Hell Diver posted:

E: Or just use it for your elaborate bong jokes!

Thanks!

I tried red eyes, but I need new brushes and the only decent size 1 brush I have was the smallest and the tip was a little bit out of joint.

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Crossposting from the Oath thread







Really happy with the freehand. Pics are just from my phone so please excuse the quality

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Thanks! I used a lot of thing washes and thin 'juices' when layering to build up the colour.

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The Blue Pyramid posted:

I built a razorback today

That conversion is pretty tight. Instead of GS I would have used milliput because you can sand it smooth, you could probably still go over with it if you wished to. Not a bad job mate. The turret sits a little too high for my liking as well.

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Fix posted:

This is probably the best thing I've painted thus far.

What I think this model is really lacking is some contrast. The browns, golds, flesh colours and the loin cloth thing just sort of blend it. I would hit the green in the deep recesses with a wash of darkangels green with a little bit of scab red mixed in. Maybe drybrush the fur up to bleached bone and a few subtle washes on the bird would do it wonders I think. A reddy purple wash on hte gold would go a long way too.

The face on this model is reeeallly good though, the red tinge just makes it. Great work.

And this is what I have been up to recently. My friends are nagging me to get back playing 40k, and I want to play with something other than my deathguard. My orks are going to take aaages to paint, so I have decided getting my 2nd eldar models ready will be a more manageable task. I think I am going to go an old school ulthwe scheme with a bit of a modern flair. I would love to hear people's thoughts on him.




I went with a purple wash on the bone and metals to contrast with the yellow. I mucked around with some spray painting to quicken up the black. What I do is undercoat black, with a dusting of white from above, then give the armour a coat of Coat D'Arms armour wash, this gives it a subtle transition, then I do a few edge highlights in grey. I am still trying to get this right, but my first results are promising.

I would love to hear what you guys think. Bases are probably going to be sand with a few tufts of dead grass, or a craftworld base that will be ivory that I will cast myself.

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Fix posted:

It's kinda frustrating, because I actually did all of that, but I can't get the contrast in the photo. I went with the red contrast into the cape, did a few ink glazes over that to get a little tiny bit of shine, drybrushed the fur up four levels to a cool grey rather than bone, and the bird is actually done with nothing but washes and comes across as completely flat in the pic. I pushed the armor with multiple coats of dark redbrown glaze deeper and deeper into shadow.

Is it the background? Is white loving up the balance on the camera or something? How bright are the bulbs in the lights in your guys' light boxes? My kit has got these little things that don't seem to penetrate my tent, but direct light screws everything in the other direction.

I dunno, as you can see from the picture I posted earlier, I am fairly poo poo at photography. Maybe try a dark grey or black background?

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Hell Diver posted:

I just put the time in to learn how to get to a point and then figured out what I can strip out of the steps in between and still get the same effect. Essentially I just learned how to cheat at painting.

This is my approach as well. I kept hassling myself trying to learn new techniques when I didn't have the simple ones like layering and simple edge highlights down pat. Advice I usually give people is to learn to walk before you run. Learn to paint cleanly (I still have to focus on doing this, I tend to rush small details and not go back and fix mistakes) and evenly, then learn some different techniques like drybrushing, the try out washes and inks, then highlighting, the layering, then glazes etc. Also, learning what colours compliment each other has improved the look of my models tremendously.

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Bavius posted:

Goons, let me ask you something: where is the best place to buy Vallejo model and Vallejo air paints?

https://www.maelstromgames.co.uk

Free international shipping on orders over 10 pounds. I dunno if it will work out cheaper than the warstore or not.

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There is a guy on Warhammer.org who is doing this with new release models. He isn't making much money at all, and lost money in a few instances. And not to be rude, but I don't think your painting is really at that standard yet.

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e: i hosed up

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Love the vibrancy of the hive tyrant, great job

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PaintVagrant posted:



What the hell is that thing on the left meant to be? I think it might be the worst PP miniature I have seen, sans the khador vampire looking dude. The goblins rule.

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dexefiend posted:

Stunted tortured elephant baby.

Of course.

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dexefiend posted:

I just laughed out loud at work because of this song. I can soooo see some drugged out Dark Eldar cruizin' the Warp blasting this.

No, this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVgSMuRsjNg

Big Willy Style
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Whoever was asking about emerald green. Coat D Arms, who used to make GW paints still produce the colour

http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/ind...fcl_pnt_164_000

They do most of the discontinued colours, down to the coloured metallics as well. Very good paints to use.

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So I am taking a break from batch/speed painting to work on one of my old farseers. This is probably my favourite eldar model.


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