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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Image dump because I think I'm alright enough to post in here.


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Crosspostin from the warhammer thread.

Finished for now. In keeping with my 'try a new painting technique on each character' I had a proper go at Blending on his cloak. Red to black, to Purple back to black and then Blue. The Purple doesnt really show up because I kept it very dark but you can kind of see it. Was an interesting experiment, I need to plan it a bit better for next time.

I'll probably fix some of the mistakes I've noticed from the photos when I do the base, which I'm thinking will be snow to brighten the whole model up a bit.


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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FirstCongoWar posted:

Never, ever work straight from the pot, it will forever look like poo poo

Wrong. If you're doing rank and file its fine.

If you're doing anything with blending or whatever then you need to thin them down.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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FirstCongoWar posted:

sorry dude unthinned paint looks like poo poo even in the middle of a rank of dudes.

I can appreciate wanting to save time on painting but let's be honest with ourselves.

Oh really?


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Un thinned paints all the way. Straight out of the pot on 99% of that. The only things I thinned were mixes for some of the gems because I didnt have the right colours.

So yeah its very possible. I wouldnt do it again because my painting looks so much nicer now but it can look good if you put the effort in.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Bobx66 posted:

That isn't a casting error. Seriously there is no excuse for not thinning paints especially when it is clear that you have talent. If you had thinned your paints that model would be pristine and it wouldn't like house paint bubbling off the wall.

That was a casting error on the right part actually. It was a hole I filled quite roughly with green stuff. The whole model was full of errors, particularly on the wraithbone parts, most noticeably on the shoulder guard. My whole point was its possible to paint out of the pot if you really want to, and if I hadnt said anything about using unthinned paints no-one would have noticed.

But if you had read you would have seen I said this was the last model I did without thinning paints because it was the first one I had done that looked good. So have some of my better work.


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This one got frosted by a bad coat of spray varnish, which really annoyed me at the time but a 2nd coat almost fixed it so its not that bad now.


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Waffleimages is being a bit poo poo and only loading half the pictures I try and upload so I'll stop now.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Whats the differance between a wash and a glaze?

As far as I can tell they are almost exactly the same but somehow magically do different things.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Skarsnik posted:

A wash is designed to flow off the raised surfaces and into the recesses for shading

A glaze is much much thinner and is designed to cover the whole surface in a transparent layer of pigment.

Getting the thickness of a glaze right can be hard, but you can get glazing mediums that do the work for you

So basically a glaze is a wash without using something to break the surface tension to simplify it?

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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I picked up some of that matt medium so I'll use that thanks for clarifying everything.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Aside from a few touchups and bits i've forgotten to paint that I've noticed in the photos this guy is done. If anyone remembers I've been painting models and doing a new technique on each one to try and teach myself all the gimmicks and whizbangs that you good painters use.

Tried NMM for the first time, some bits worked and some didnt. If I did it again I think I could do everything a bit better but it really was excellent practice for blending so it was worth all the effort. I do the cheaty method on gems so they'll get the shine when its varnished.


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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PaintVagrant posted:

Thats really solid for a first attempt, NMM gold is hard

Tell me about it. The silver halo by comparison was just so easy.

The hardest thing I found was actually getting it to look, you know, gold. Once I figured out that the fake shine was all down to contrasts that bit got easier, but getting it to look gold was a excercise in frustration and many many different wash mixes.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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My Sanguinor is now sitting in the Window display case in my local GW.

As sad as it is, I've wanted a model in the display cabinets since I was 12. The massive list of compliments helped too.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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KingMob posted:

Crossposting from the Warmachine thread.

I learned a couple more things using Army painter stuff with the LLaelese themed Nomad below. First, Strong tone works best for earth tones, not for greys. Second, even if it doesn't feel that humid out, it's better to be cautious than to spray with Matt Varnish if you're not sure. Hence, he has a slight dusting of what looks like powder, but I got much of it off with a damp cloth.



I know this sounds silly, but spray it with the same varnish again. My Sanguinor turned 'frosty' on the back from the matt spray and a second coat sorted it out fine.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Finished the first Sanguine Guard to go with my Sanguinor that I posted what seems like months ago now. Did the gold slightly differently to that and I think it worked better this time.

Also i'd like to reiterate never ever use any spray varnish from GW. Nearly destroyed this model if I didnt know about brushing on gloss varnish to fix frosting.

Anyway, what do you guys think?


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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counterspin posted:

How does brushing on gloss varnish work exactly? Do you do this at the end of the painting process or at the beginning?

Occasionally (always with GW satin spray varnish) if the climactic conditions arent absolutely perfect when you spray satin varnish it doesnt cover correctly and you end up with pits in the varnish. This causes it to look like you've blown sugar over the model and makes people cry.

If you brush gloss varnish over the top it will fill in the pits, smooth everything out again and return the model to how it should look, just with a gloss finish. Spray the satin over the top of that and it should turn out right.

I'm going to brush gloss on every model before I even spray it satin from now on to prevent any accidents.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Reposting because they got ignored in favour of varnish chat


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Fyrbrand posted:

'Anus' the marine definitely should not have been ignored. Cool poo poo man.

Knew I should have made the J more prominent :negative:

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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I want to steal that turqoise for those Forgeworld Tau suits.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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I did mine with black primer. It makes the blue darker and is a lot easier for beginners than white primer.

If you're going to use yellow instead of gold for the shoulder pad just use a foundation grey to make sure it gets that separate brightness.

I'm really not a fan of the bright 2nd edition style Ultramarines though so go with what you feel really.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Since I find myself unexpectedly unemployed I had a bit of time on my hands so I thought i'd do a bit of painting.

First thing I've done in a couple of months and I quite like it so have an in progress shot.


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Finished all but the base. Its amazing how much you can get done when you still get up at the usual time to go to work :negative:


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The gun is most likely going to get a complete redo because it just doesnt look right in pictures. Looks decent enough in person but its just not quite there.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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crime fighting hog posted:

Looks great! How'd you do the wings?

Straight out of the guide in the WD.

1:2 Fenris Grey/Astronomicon Grey basecoat.

1:1 Codex/Fenris Grey wash. Add a little black for another wash thats only in the corners right up in the wings.

Straight Astronomicon highlight, then 1:1 Astro/Skull white then finally pure skull white for the brightest parts.

Key is keeping the highlights very thinned down so you can build up the colour to different strengths so you dont need to do a million layers adding a little bit of extra skull white each time. I also kept each stage in a seperate pallet dimple so I could wet blend the layers if it got a bit too strong and needed the edges softening.

serious gaylord fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Nov 18, 2010

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Finished completly now so I got the proper camera out.


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Finished another one. Only 2 more to go :negative:


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Pfhreak posted:

If I clearcoat my minis because I think they are done, then decide I want more detail on something later, can I just paint over the varnish? (I'm thinking about things like the gems on my Menoth minis.)

I do this all the time. Just varnish them again afterwards.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Big Willy Style posted:

So this is how my cold ones are looking at the moment.



Imagine this x8 for the whole group and you get an idea of what they are looking like. I am thinking of doing one more highlight on the fleshy bits. The flesh is Chardonite Granite (or whatever it is called, the foundation paint) base, adding Coat D'Arms Putrid Green (Rotting Flesh GW) for the highlights.

I still haven't decided how to paint my acrtual dark elves, so that is why I started with the cold ones because. I am thinking black highlighted with green, sort of like the new dark eldar are done, or with purple.

These own.

And yes, use a purple. Green will look too jarring.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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I got one as part of a hobby supply set that my dear old mother bought me one christmas and I can say hand on heart that it is the worst piece of garbage i've ever used. I only used it to try and basecoat a tank and not only did it gobble up a whole pot of paint but most of it dribbled out of the needle because it wasnt aligned properly.

All you have to know is that its probably the only piece of kit the staff wont try and upsell you with because they know it will just come straight back.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Why is the tank luminous yellow and the marines a more orangey/yellow?

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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I do it after the base is done but before static grass. No matter how much you blow off the grass I always get some stuck to the model by the varnish spray.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Why do I always end up after PV's stuff. Life isnt fair.

Finished the first of the 5 Sternguard I've painting in Blood Raven colours. I'll wait till the lot of them and the bases are finished to do proper photos.


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I really enjoyed not trying to overpaint it. Kept things simple with basic blending and sped through it.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Wondermoose posted:

Question about varnishing,

When you varnish a model is is best to use a thin coat like you would a primer, or is it it better to use a thicker coat for the ultimate in protection?

What technique do you guys usually use when finishing your models?

Multiple thin coats. If you put it on too thick you'll end up with it 'frosting' and then you'll cry. Make sure each coat is thoroughly dry before you do the next one.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Joining in!


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Fix you own

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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MasterSlowPoke posted:

Bhyo, can you tell me how tall the Sanguinor figure is? I've been wondering for a while.

2 and a half inches max from the bottom of the scrolls to the Halo. He's smaller than the Sanguine Guard in both height and bulk.

I finished something else today. Been working on it for about a week and a half. Pic dump incoming because I am v.proud of it.


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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Theres a J before the A! I've made it a bit more distinguishable since that photo was done.

Regal Blue, Hawk Turqoise and Bleached bone. Add some skull white for the final highlights.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Stories of models getting broken make me cringe. More so when it's something bizarre like that.

Lol if you've never seen someone pick up an old Hive Tyrant model they've just finished painting, go to put it in their case and have it fall off the base and shatter into 20 pieces.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Bachtere posted:

Dwarf Lord from the oath thread:







This owns owns owns

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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It looks ceramic. It owns owns owns.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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The base doesnt contrast the model very well other that I think they're fine. The OSL is v good.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Fix posted:

The molds got bent or something. Every assembly guide I read bitched about the back mount being bent. I had to wang on mine with a rubber mallet for about half an hour before it was even close, and even then I had to cut plastic off the back of the immolator plate.

Oh, and serious amounts of two-part metal epoxy goddamn I used a lot of glue.

If and when sisters get redone I assume a new Exorcist is top of the list for models.

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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

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Napoleon wasnt actually short! He was average height for the period!

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