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Hello everyone. I find myself in a situation where I'm moving across Canada from Toronto to Vancouver in October, and am looking at getting a vehicle that can tow a Uhaul trailer full of my stuff. Once I get there, that vehicle won't be needed, and will either be kept for maybe a year as an occasional use recreational vehicle, or sold for something else. Given the price of renting a Uhaul truck, I can afford to lose several thousand dollars just buying it and selling it on the other end and still come out ahead. My problem is, I know nothing about good towing vehicles. Decent fuel economy would be nice. Proposed Budget: up to $20k CAD New or Used: Used (might consider a two year lease, but that's probably not economical), 2007 or newer, ideally under 150k kms. Definitely under 200k. Body Style: SUV, maybe pickup? Cargo capacity for the move is important. I had a 2010 Subaru Forester a few years bakc, and while it could tow, it wasn't great. There are several large hills between here and there. The NA 2.5 would struggle. Does anyone know anything about ~2010 VW Touareg TDIs? I hate diesels, but sometimes they can make a good case for themselves.
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Sep 14, 2021 11:29
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JnnyThndrs posted:How much stuff do you have? The larger double-axle Uhaul trailers are fairly heavy(about 2Klbs unloaded); if you need that size, you’re most likely going to need a full-size pickup/body-on-frame SUV. If you only need the smaller single-axle trailer, you most likely can use a larger crossover. Boxes, mainly. Not much in the way of furniture. Nothing particularly heavy, volume will be the driving factor for trailer size. I'm hoping I can get away with a 5x8 single axle plus what fits in the tow vehicle, but might need to go to the 6x12 dual axle one. I'll know once I'm packed! I'll be driving solo for most of the trip, and not hell bent on making the best time possible. 6-7 days should cover it. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:pros: more reliable than the V10 TDI Yeah I don't know what I was expecting but that sounds about right.
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Sep 14, 2021 13:19
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Nitrox posted:Sounds like your best bet is to buy a 26 ft cargo truck and not bother with the trailer all together. But I question the logic of doing this instead of hiring a moving storage service like Pods. Or simply renting the 26' truck from a rental agency like U-Haul and leaving it at the destination. Unless you can somehow buy below market value and sell for more later, the entire plan hinges on you selling it at a certain price point. A small Uhaul cube van is minimum $3500 one way. Add a car trailer for my Prius and about grand in gas and I'm in for at least $5k and I get a car on the other side. A mover wants $6k just to show up, and I still have to drive across. If I swap the Prius for a SUV, a trailer costs $1500, I burn probably a third less gas, I still have a practical vehicle on the other side (even if it isn't as fuel efficient as the Prius - doesn't matter since it won't see much use). If I lose a couple of grand on what I pay for it come time to sell, that's still a better deal than just handing Uhaul or a mover $5-6k. If I can sell it for more or less what I pay for it, that's essentially a free move (minus gas and accommodations). Also, can't do moving pods as I live in a downtown condo.
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Sep 14, 2021 14:11
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Internet Explorer posted:I'm sure it depends on the city, but in my experience you can get a permit to park it in the street for a few days. If not, the pods can also be held at their warehouse and depending on how far of a drive that is, you could rent a truck and unload from there then take the truck to your apartment. We did that and while it was a pain to do an extra step of loading/unloading, it gave us a lot of flexibility during the move that made it worth it. Just something to think about. I had considered that option, but that extra step in the logistics of this move really is difficult given the time restraints I'm under. There's no way I can get a pod plopped somewhere nearby for a couple of days. I do have a couple of other options worth exploring for the move, but that's a topic for another thread. I just want to know what sort of high quality tow vehicles would be suitable for this purpose and then see what from those options is for sale locally that matches the my budget.
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Sep 14, 2021 14:43
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I guess rather than "suggest a car" advice, what I really want to know is something like is a Rav4 going to do the job, or am I going to want something like a 4runner (or equivalent)? If it's a pickup, can I get away with a mid-size, or am I going to need a full-size? I'd like to avoid a huge V8 full size truck, so what are the models to look for in the smaller yet spacious, tow capable trucks? No need for 3rd row seats or any family friendly stuff, and a better, more comfortable space than the cab of a cube van to spend a week in would sure be nice.
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Sep 14, 2021 15:11
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I'll see what there is in big and biggish truck land. Hopefully with a cap or locking tonneau so that roaming beavers and vagrants don't rob me of my precious antique cans while I'm staying at the Four Seasons Lower Saskabush.KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:what's the opposition to a V8 anyway? it'll be a bit thirstier but realistically not that much, and they tend to be in higher demand when you go sell em Yeah, fuel ecomomy is the biggest part of it. If I'm getting the same fuel economy as a cube van, the numbers start making less sense. Plus given the price of gas in BC, keeping it for a while or finding someone who doesn't care is less of an attractive proposition (although I guess I could try selling it to Albertans). Also keep in mind, I drive a Prius right now. I can deal with doubling my fuel consumption for daily use, maybe triple, but quadruple is enough to make me balk. Finger Prince fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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Sep 14, 2021 17:42
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half ton will do very nicely and if it's pretty new, the interiors are quite good except the silverado and even then its not bad
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CannonFodder posted:Understatement of the year. Having driven across Highwood pass on midsummer day a couple of years ago through two tire tracks cut through two feet of snow, I find myself hesitant taking a sketchy Uhaul (or freshly purchased new-to-me) truck towing a sketchy Uhaul trailer carrying my car across the Rockies, in October. Especially knowing how sketchy Rogers pass can get. I did follow up on those moving cubes Uhaul do, as suggested ITT, and turns out you can load them at the depot, so a local rental and filling one or two of those is by far the cheapest and most sensible option. So thanks again everyone! Might sell the Prius before I go too, and just use car share programs out there as needed until we get settled.
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Sep 15, 2021 20:05
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Mr Interweb posted:$17k at the most (for new) New at that budget, you're pretty much just looking at a Hyundai accent, or KIA Rio, maybe a Forte with the right incentives. Or Nissan sells a cheap Versa if you love Nissan for some weird reason. Used, you could maybe stretch for a decent used Prius, but honestly just get a Corolla.
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Oct 7, 2021 11:57
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Get the cheaper one and spend the money you saved on therapy. (this is 100% not snark)
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Oct 19, 2021 00:06
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Sounds like I need to buy a car before the 8th of November when Americans can come up here and rob us blind of all our cars.
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Oct 24, 2021 16:37
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The Hyundai
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Oct 27, 2021 16:31
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Red_Fred posted:A few years back the Prius C was labelled by this thread as not good. Why was that? Is that still the case? YIL that the Toyota Aqua was the number one selling car in Japan for 3 years in a row, selling over a million units worldwide. So, probably not bad.
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Oct 30, 2021 17:08
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Methanar posted:hey this thread has a good OP. Toyota Prius Prime.
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Nov 8, 2021 08:38
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Hadlock posted:We are moving to "the county" so we'll be needing a second car, but it's reliability is not critical as I am full time work from home and wife probably only goes into the office a couple times a week etc etc. We've lived with one car for six years so having a broken down classic car in the other garage isn't a big deal Fuckin do it, man!
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Nov 30, 2021 07:54
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OTOH, a neutral coloured Prius is pretty much invisible to police.
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Dec 15, 2021 04:37
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Hadlock posted:Looking at 1950's traction avants in Europe still Even knowing nothing about Traction Avants, that i6 one is the one to get. One owner for the past 56 years, with decades of documentation, and that tidy underneath? Unless your intention is to beat on it, in which case get the cheaper one.
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Dec 19, 2021 00:39
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:This isn't directly a car buying question but more of a market one but looking at this graph - what is going to occur when the chip shortage does end and new cars begin flooding back into showrooms and dealers lots? Am I correct in my suspicion that we're going to see a ton of deprecation? If so, doesn't it just make more sense to buy new at this time or something pre-owned or certified? If do need a vehicle but want something that at least holds most of it's value but does is the generic recommendation still just a Toyota Camry or whatever Ford/GM 4-door Sedan? Wow that graph does not reflect used Toyota values here at all.
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Jan 14, 2022 06:47
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Bubbacub posted:I have never owned a car before, but I'm getting tired of renting / mooching off of friends. Hmm, how do you feel about boxy and utilitarian? You could probably get a Honda Element for that kind of money. Those things were built for being stuffed full of muddy bikes, canoes and kayaks. I'm pretty sure you can hose out the inside. https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ctd/d/wakefield-2011-honda-element-ex-awd-4dr/7431933954.html
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Jan 18, 2022 17:43
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Good lord buying a vehicle through a dealer is a pain in the dick. I've been here an hour getting hard sold an extended warranty and watching a dude click a mouse and attempt to print out 10 sheets of paper half a dozen times. Give me private sale any day. Here is the money, give me the car and a bill of sale. I'd rather spend an hour and a half waiting for my number to be called at the ICBC office getting plates than go through this bs again.
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Jan 23, 2022 01:14
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Keyser_Soze posted:Double check all the numbers each time they leave the room and come back and try to get you to sign something. The actual car salesman was a gem. The numbers were already agreed upon in writing and signed. The finance dude today though, he was a piece of work. His entire job was, as far as I can tell, to sell an extended warranty. He was told politely to pound sand, then firmly to pound sand, and then as we're waiting for the reg guy to get the plates, he comes out to the waiting room to try to explain why his foot is lodged so firmly in his mouth. Like, dig up, stupid! Can you not see every word that comes out of your mouth makes this worse? But of course he could not, for if he could, he would not be selling extended warranties for a living.
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Jan 23, 2022 05:05
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Keyser_Soze posted:Yeah, you also can get the thing were the sales person agrees to the terms etc and then the finance guy comes back with a different number (not by much like $1500 or something) and when you catch it says "yeah but this is my price!" I suspect he was trying that trick on, showing me just a number on the screen which represented my monthly payment, which was not congruent with what I knew was the payment. Do a quick math on my phone to check what the number should be, and say "can I see how that breaks down?" "Sure thing, in a minute, the bank paperwork is upstairs." Like, I watched you print the loving bank forms out 45 minutes later. Once you figured out how the printer worked. I guess that was the test the waters number fudge to see what he could get away with before adding the warranty payment to it.
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Jan 23, 2022 07:39
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The problem I always found with those lease takeover site is nearly everyone on there trying to get out of their lease also is on a terrible lease with lousy terms. And that's while they're trying to get out of their lease.
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Feb 21, 2022 01:33
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60mph here, unsafe.  60mph here, full marks if you can pull it off. 
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Feb 27, 2022 23:31
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DNK posted:I’m in line to get a Telluride at MSRP. Delivery ETA in 9mos. Cool. A question that was raised by my friend, that I had never actually thought about until he mentioned it, is why are all the Hyundai C/SUVs are named after US cities - Santa Fe, Tucson, Kona - but they get the Palisade, and Kia gets the Telluride, when all the Kia C/SUVs are named after just stuff or stuff that sounds like stuff? And now you can think about it too.
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Mar 15, 2022 03:51
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KillHour posted:Someone at the Hyundai HQ was carrying two folders, one named "New Hyundai Car Names" and the other named "New Kia Car Names." Said person in a hurry to get to the meeting where the car names were being presented and bumped into someone going the other direction, and all the papers went everywhere. They hurriedly tried to put the papers back but some inevitably got mixed up. HENNIMORE!!
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Mar 15, 2022 04:20
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TIL... I still think it should be the Hyundai Telluride and Kia Palisade. Especially since the Kia looks more evocative of a defensive wall.
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Mar 15, 2022 05:20
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Shine posted:Cars are loving stupid.
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Mar 25, 2022 09:04
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Cool and fun cars are the good kind of stupid though.
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Mar 25, 2022 09:06
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