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My girlfriend just moved to the States from Berlin and is looking to buy her first car. She's really excited, knows less than nothing about cars and car-buying, and she's throwing weird, 10+ year old vehicles from Facebook Marketplace at me left and right, way faster than I can research each one (I'm no expert either). I haven't done this in a while, and Edmunds doesn't seem to be the research tool it once was, it looks like more of a sales platform now. Where do you guys recommend finding quick pros and cons info on specific year/make/model, so I can narrow the field and not have to post each one here?
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Trevor Hale posted:US News has my favorite layman’s terms pro/cons for cars. (Which pains me to say this as a person who works for a different not-US News car site) Thanks! There's no endorsement like a competitor endorsement
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Alright, I'm not having much luck searching older model cars on US News, so I need guidance after all. Here are her list of demands: Proposed Budget: $2000-4000, could stretch to 5 if it's a slam dunk New or Used: Used Body Style: 4-door or SUV How will you be using the car?: General daily driver, ideally we could strap canoes on top and/or be able to sleep in it overnight on short road trips around Florida (we live near Tampa). Do you prefer a luxury vehicle with all the gizmos? backup camera would be nice, she's a big city girl without a ton of driving experience. I don't know if we can get that in our budget though What aspects are most important to you? safety, ongoing ownership costs, and quirky or ironic styling. To elaborate on that: so far she loves Minis, a 1993 geo tracker in neon pink, and an all-gold Jeep Cherokee from 99. She's obsessed with getting a Ford Bronco because she thinks the name is hilarious. She's from Berlin so a lot of things that look lame to us like old school 4-doors or boxy SUVs like a Jeep Patriot are cool or gangster or "American" to her. And none of this ultimately matters because she'll take whatever fits our use case best at the end of the day. Oh, and bonus points if it comes in gold or turquoise. Help. 
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Apr 22, 2018 04:11
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Deteriorata posted:Check out a <2000 Isuzu Vehicross. There's some out there to be had <$5k. It's going to have the same problems as any other 20 years old car, and is pretty funky to boot. Vetoed as too ugly. For the record, I think it's awesome and want one now. She seems to like boring boxes more than curvy/bumpy styling. At this point, I say gently caress style, what can I get for under $5k that we can rely on and throw an air mattress in back of.
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Apr 22, 2018 13:46
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Good recommendations, but she likes the K5 Blazer and hates the rest. Everything she likes except Minis is an old beater; the more modern cube look with softened edges/corners or curves seems to be a cardinal sin. Got anything more modern in the Blazer direction? Edit: nm posted:I refuse to help anyone who insults the vehicross. Looks good! Any years to avoid? Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Apr 22, 2018 |
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Apr 22, 2018 16:12
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I agree with all these sentiments and read them to her, to very little effect  Ignoring style completely in the hopes that I can wear her down, what would you guys suggest to a sane person for our budget and intended camper/kayak-hauler use? Does a safe/inexpensive option exist at all, or are we still kind of pidgeonholed into a sedan at this budget no matter what? Sorry to be that guy who wants something for nothing, I'm doing the best I can with the cards I've got.
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Apr 22, 2018 17:53
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She can drive a manual, so that may be an option. I'm always down for an adventure, and I think she probably needs to have that lovely car experience firsthand to really get the pragmatic perspective. I would just prefer she not learn by breaking down in an unsafe neighborhood or dying in a fire.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:just so you are aware your requirements are: Totally fair, and this got through to her. We discussed it and compromised on 3 (at my insistence), 6, and 7, in that order. So it needs to be safe, under $5k, and have some degree of dope-rear end styling. Nothing else is necessary. Is that more feasible? It eliminates the XJ option, but that was moot anyway since there don't seem to be any in my area that haven't been made into full-on swampmobiles for Redneck Yacht Club. Two related questions: 1) she's really loving in love with this pink geo tracker, and if consumer reviews are any guide people who own these things love to drive them. But I can't find any safety ratings on it whatsoever. Can anyone weigh in on that? 2) I'm not clear on whether you're reminding us that kayaks cost money, or roof racks do. But as an alternative to complicating her search, I'm considering just putting some kind of aftermarket sedan rack on my beat-up old Elantra. Is that also dumb? Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Apr 23, 2018 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I originally didn't recommend the Element for that reason, but I looked and I see them online now in the 120-150k mile range, 2002-2005, for $3-6k. Correct as always. I wanted to avoid this initially but at this point it seems simpler. Just got to everyone's recommendations after a busy day, and the Subaru trio is super interesting. Definitely going to run some of those by her later, there's a lot of them available in our price range as new as 2004 (including a gold one). She also likes the 2007 Jeep Patriot, which this area is loving lousy with for some reason. US News gives it a decent safety rating. Thoughts? And here's a curveball: despite calling it "boring" she actually likes the Chevy Sonic, which opens up a whole new sedan-shaped can of worms. I guess she rented one on a previous visit to the states and likes the way it feels to drive? There's a lot of them hovering around $5k, and I actually found one from 2013 with 140k miles for 4.5 Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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because she's a dirty euro hipster and it's "ugly." ditto for the Scion and Element. I happen to think the Soul is adorable, and would love to replace my Elantra with one if I wasn't broke. I found a gold one (the holy color) that I'm going to try and tempt her with, but I'm not holding my breath.
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That scenario ends with me holding the manual and you know it
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I found a Chevy Sonic that I like, but the VIN shows a disabling accident with a damage evaluation of $7000. Should I just pass entirely, or is there a layman's protocol for determining whether it's worth gambling on?
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May 10, 2018 15:01
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Same question, Chevy Cruze, non-disabling accident? People like to ram little Chevys in Florida apparently
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Fair enough, thanks. While I'm on the subject, is the Sonic as good an option as I think? They're cute but peppy, I can get a relatively new one in our 4-6k price range, some even have backup camera, and USNews makes them sounds pretty safe and cheap to own... but I don't know if there's other contenders I should be looking at as well.
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May 11, 2018 02:52
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You're not alone. My fiance and I just drove the Sonic hatchback yesterday, and both LOVED it. But at 30k miles it already had squeaky brakes and a grindy drive train, and both my mechanic and a random salt of the earth dude I called up to potentially inspect it begged me not to buy a Sonic or Spark, calling them "disposable"
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Yeah, I already did an Aveo once so I believe it. We're looking at some '09/'10 Equinoxes now
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May 17, 2018 17:34
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Picky fiance car hunt update: miracle of miracles, we've stretched the budget to $7k and she's actually considering a Subaru Forester. The catch is, she only likes the 2008 and earlier body style. I'm feeling better about this than say, a Sonic or Mini or Fiat, because even if it's older than I'd like it's still a Subaru. Is that legit, or am I just rationalizing because I want to be done with this?
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May 18, 2018 01:26
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poo poo, I knew nothing about that. Thanks everyone. I think I'm just going to follow Deteriorata's advice and let her get the Mini or Fiat 500 she wants. Anything to watch out for on those?
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May 18, 2018 02:44
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It's finally done, thanks all. She picked a surprisingly clean 2004 Forester with 108k miles on it. It's nice enough that she's comfortable but ratchet enough to be cool, and it has furniture space while staying small enough to not scare her. I made it clear that she should plan on replacing the HG and timing belt eventually, and we beat the guy down to $5800 including tax and a new tag. I'm stoked. It may not be the wisest pick from an investment perspective, but it's her money and she's happy, and the interior reminds me of my old Ranger in all of the good ways and none of the bad ones. I can't wait to slap some kayaks on those racks.
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May 20, 2018 02:16
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nm posted:She needs to replace the timing belt today. mariooncrack posted:Seconding this. If the timing belt breaks, it may take the motor with it. Hm, okay. I thought it was a non-interference engine? Both the mechanic we had check it out and the dealer said the belt was okay for now. I know all dealers are crooks, etc, but I fact checked literally every other thing the guy said and couldn't catch him in anything. Eric the Mauve posted:Subarus are fantastic cars that last forever so long as you obsessive-compulsively do every millimeter of routine maintenance and never miss one tiny thing ever, apparently Guinness posted:It's really funny that Subarus have a reliability reputation on par with Toyota among the general population, when they're really far more like a European car than a Toyota. It's because laymen listen to their mechanics. They don't think anything of that kind of upkeep, and pass on their enthusiasm unqualified to average folks. I literally had three different mechanics tell me to buy one unprompted
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Wikipedia says they only used those until 2002 and then switched to an H4, if I'm reading this correctly
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Why is the Prius such a standout thread favorite? I'm seeing 2010 Priusi in my area for $5k, and I'm tempted to ditch my 2004 Elantra. It's fine and trustworthy, but it's a little unrefined and starting to smell like wet dog inside when it rains (every day in Florida this time of year)
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May 22, 2018 15:09
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King of False Promises posted:Incredibly low cost of ownership. If you don't have specific needs, it's probably the perfect commuting car. Twerk from Home posted:It's so cheap to own not just because of good fuel economy, but because it has no belt-driven accessories and the automatic transmission has fewer moving parts and is more reliable than any other auto. Those are two of the common failure points of older cars that it just sidesteps! CannonFodder posted:It's by far the best driving appliance. Great gas mileage, good safety, great interior space, super reliable. However, if someone wants a fun drive or power or more space or towing capacity, there are other choices. Sounds like a lot of upsides and no downsides that matter to me. Is the crazy cost of ownership low enough that it will pay for itself (I'm looking at 2-3k difference in private party value between a 2010 and my car), or should I wait until I really need to upgrade?
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I currently drive a battered, sun-damaged 2004 Elantra with about 140k miles on it. The timing belt has already been replaced, and for an old car it's quiet, efficient, and reliable. My wife's car is a 2004 Forester that can be fussy, so the Elantra is our main car for daily driving and occasional in-state roadtrips. Out of the blue, my parents offered to sell me their 2013 Accord coupe with 42k miles for $6000. I can't find any other luxury trim 2-doors to price it by, but the market price for a 4-door 2013 Accord in my area (Tampa) seems to be around $12000. I don't have $6000 to spare right now, but they offered to let us do no-interest payments over the next few years. On paper it seems like a bargain and an upgrade in safety/reliability over the Elantra, which it would replace. But I don't need it. Is this a worthwhile investment, or should I just keep the Elantra until it dies? Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Feb 25, 2019 |
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Feb 25, 2019 19:57
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nm posted:Is it a V6 and if so, is it an auto? 4-cylinder automatic
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zapplez posted:1000% do it. They are gifting you thousands in an underpriced car. And its a good brand at that. That's what I thought, I just needed a sanity check. nm posted:Do it. WOW, okay.  Thanks!
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luminalflux posted:Join a credit union with a car buying service. That poo poo owns, i just emailed a very nice person with what I wanted and they let me know what they found at what price and when do I want it delivered to my door??? I've never seen this advertised anywhere, not even seeing it at Patelco. Is it just something you get if you're doing a loan through them, or will they still help you if you're buying cash? I'm in the latter category and I was considering shopping through Costco's program. But I'm a member of a few credit unions, so if it's an option from them I could try that to? Either way, I would very much like to avoid dealer bullshit while also not taking the risk of buying from a total rando. I want to sell my 2013 Honda Accord coupe and use the resulting money to replace it with something more practical. I don't mind selling it myself. What is the best way to figure out what this thing is actually saleable for in my area (Tampa Bay)?
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skipdogg posted:What exactly do you mean by more practical? The two big pain points I have with the Accord Coupe are storage and clearance. I am a bad driver who is very, very good at finding curbs with the front end of that car, and I would like something that sits slightly above them. I also need a bit more storage space for bikes and beach gear. I can pop the front wheel off of my bike and slide it in there, but thanks to the small size of the passthrough hatch and the janky fold-down seats, it's a real pain in the rear end to do. It also only works if nothing else is in the trunk, and I like to keep beach chairs, towels, hammocks, etc back there in case of adventure. It also has doors that close on you constantly, which is something I loving loathe. Give me car doors that yearn to open and stay open, I don't care if it means I have to move mountains to close them. Lower-priority factors: I would like to eventually put an external rack on it to be able to carry more than one bike, so I guess a hitch might also be handy? Not an expert there, if there are better solutions lmk. Collision warning beeps and lane drift have been a literal life saver, so I would like to retain those, and I love that the Accord yells at me to change the oil because I always forget poo poo like that. AWD might be nice, because my partner and I have big roadtrip dreams and snow scares us. I don't care about size, body style, or styling at all, I have no kids or pets and I just want the best driving appliance I can get for the money. Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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King of False Promises posted:GTE Financial is a Tampa-based credit union that has a car shopping service. Thanks! It looks like they and two other credit unions that I'm already a part of all use TrueCar. Is there any difference from one place to the next, in that case?
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Guinness posted:I mean ground clearance does help you not slam your front valence into parking stones and such, which is definitely something I have to be cautious of in my little two door coupe with <5" of clearance but don't have to think about in a CUV. This is exactly what I'm talking about, yeah. Uthor posted:Frankly, these aren't the solutions to these two problems. Taller cars have bigger fenders and it's just as hard to see, though I find a backup camera with guidelines really helpful when reversing near a curb. There are also some cars that tilt the passenger mirror toward the ground when you go into reverse for this purpose. I read that AWD helps with straight-line traction in addition to getting going. As someone who lives in the Land of the Hydroplane, that appeals to me, especially since we had considered places like the Blue Ridge mountains for those trips. CR did make a note of the braking and handling thing so I would be nervously keeping that in mind on the road. I'm fine letting the AWD go if I have to, though. The clearance thing is less negotiable, and Guinness hit the reason why on the head. I agree with you on the value of a backup camera with guidelines; the Accord has that and I'm actually going to add it to the list of things I'm looking for because I love it. But that doesn't help spare the front valence, keep me from bottoming out on my driveway apron, or save the undercarriage when I drive over the corner of a curb and then drop down onto it (which has happened, twice). I honestly don't know where to start between hatchback, CUV, or SUV. It seems like the distinctions get blurrier every year. I'm not against legit SUVs if there's something that's a strong value and checks all my boxes, but they're probably more than I need. I guess roadtrips mean I'm looking for balance between mileage and carrying capacity for two? Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Godzilla07 posted:Carvana generally gives you a good baseline offer for late-model used cars like your Accord. Thanks for this! Are their offers actually worth taking, or did you mean take it as a baseline and then add like 15%? zedprime posted:AWD improving straight line safety on a degraded surface is a half truth because they generally get The Fancy Diffs and brake controllers and that technically helps maintain continuous contact. To clarify, I just mean that growing up somewhere hydroplanes are common makes me value traction, not that I thought AWD would address them. I keep my tires up to date and don't drive like a psycho so I very rarely experience that nowadays. Was mostly thinking about snow. An extra set of rims is an interesting thought, but once I add the tires at trip time won't that be just as expensive? Edit: Nevermind, comment below about extra fail points is a good one. Screw it, then. Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:carvana is going to give you a market clearing offer. you could maybe do a little better but you're not going to do better without a lot of hassle in private sale territory. This is what I was hoping to hear, I don't have a ton of time to gently caress around right now so that's very appealing. How subjective is their valuation, do I need to worry about cleaning/detailing before they come get it like I would for a private sale? KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:don't get AWD. you've named zero situations where AWD would be useful and it's going to increase cost, increase the number of points of failure, and decrease your fuel economy. Everyone made good points, we'll strike AWD from the list and cross the rims/tires bridge when we come to it (I don't currently have a place to store an alternate set, or anywhere to put them on). I thought you guys might say that and I appreciate the feedback. But as for gitting gud, never. I'm over 30, if I was going to stop doing stuff like dumb curb strikes I would have by now. I'm just a cripplingly scatterbrained person sometimes and there's not a lot I can do about that, so it's better to own the flaw and purchase with it in mind imo. FWD CX-5 looks like an interesting place to start.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Yeah I mean fair, that is what it is. I do encourage you to you know, not drive over curbs. Awesome. In that case, I just need to get the oil changed, and then we can find out what Carvana will offer me and really get the discussion rolling with a known budget range for the next car. Right now I'm thinking $10k, but the black book value on a clean 2013 with 60k miles is making it look like I might get a bit more. I say oil change first because there's currently a check engine light that just turned on, which I'm desperately hoping is related to the "15% oil life" message that it's also nagging me with. Are there decent places to get that done? I used to always have my mechanic do it because the ones around here were all shady upsellers, but I recently moved and haven't sought out a new mechanic. Internet Explorer posted:You're getting real good advice here, glad to see you're taking it to heart. My parents live in Florida and they surprised me with "we want to get a Subaru!" for AWD and I was able to talk them out of it. They have a CX-5 now and couldn't be happier. I knew it wasn't necessary for Florida, I just have a flexible job and mad dreams of being able to drive up to Beech Mountain and go skiing the next time the conditions and my partner's time off line up. Let me have this, universe! 
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Today I learned that there is a difference between a maintenance light and a check engine light. In related news, an oil change was all the Accord needed. This thing is ready to sell, baybeee!Nitrox posted:It's a very bad time of year to buy a used car, everyone has tax return and stimulus money burning holes in their pockets. But a good time to sell. The only problem is that I'll still need a car, so I would have to turn right around and buy the replacement in this sellers market. I don't need to change cars urgently, so I'm considering waiting. How long do you guys think it will take for the used car supply/demand situation to improve?
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I won't be able to sell my car and start shopping for a new one until later this summer, by which point I'm hoping the market will be a little less insane. But I'd like to know what Carvana will give me for my car now so I have a rough budget to start researching in the meantime. It's there any penalty or downside to letting a quote time out and then having them quote the same car again later?
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Got a Carvana quote for my current car, so here we go: Proposed Budget: Up to $12k but would love if I could do it for $10k New or Used: Used Body Style: Compact hatchback or small SUV How will you be using the car?: I work from home, so this is mostly a grocery getter that will also double as an adventure mobile once a month or so. I would like to put kayaks on the roof of it eventually, but for now the only thing it absolutely must do is transport two bikes securely, either on a hitch mount (OEM hitch would be great, but I’m fine adding aftermarket if it can be done without reducing ground clearance) or by by stowing them inside (I'm fine if that means making it fit by taking front wheels off and stacking the frames with a blanket between them, aka the Bicievino Method). I live in Florida so climate control is loving key, and handling in torrential rain is a factor (although I imagine this mostly comes down to tires). I don't have kids and never will, so I don't care about the rear row seating situation at all. What aspects are most important to you?: Safety > Reliability > everything else. Being enjoyable to drive is a bonus, but not a requirement. My CVT Accord coupe feels fun to me, so I think I'm pretty easy to please in that regard. I've had a month to think about this while I drove my Accord, and I realized that aside from the cargo space situation and the bumpy ride I'm actually pretty drat fond of it. I've written out the pros and cons I've noticed in that time to hopefully help narrow down its replacement. I know that it's highly unlikely that one $10-12k car can give me all or even most of these things, but you forum friends have sat in many more vehicles than I have, so I'm hoping you can help me find the best compromise. Needs
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skipdogg posted:I can’t think of anything off the top of my head that meets your requirements with your budget. One of those has to give. I tried to be clear that aside from the collision warning and cargo space the things on the list are considerations, not requirements. Just a "use these details to help me narrow the field if there are multiple options" kind of thing. Just went back and made a couple edits to make that even clearer. Carvana is telling me that the 2013, 65k miles vehicle I currently own which has those advanced safety features is worth $11k and change in this market. The only negative marks on their questionnaire were that I only have one key and there is a minor accident on the car's record, both of which I can accept in whatever I replace it with. I thought I might have to stretch to 13k, but $15k just to get something with high miles seems unbelievable. If prices are nuts on used cars across the board, then shouldn't I be getting just as much of a premium on the one I'm selling as the one I'm buying? What am I missing that makes getting a handful of the things my current car has in something with a slightly larger cargo area and an extra inch of ride height so unreasonable? Because that is what I'm looking for. I can even give on the ground clearance if I have to. Are there seriously no Honda Fits or Priuses or Kia Souls or whatever that have a collision warning option in a year I can afford? luminalflux posted:After-market hitch receivers are totally a thing - either get one installed at u-haul or order one from like etrailer or Amazon and DIY it. I put a receiver on my Crosstrek in like an hour in my driveway for the same reason you want one. I got a Curt receiver and a Kuat rack and it works great. No ground clearance changes since the diffs are lower than the hitch. Dope, this is exactly what I was hoping. The diff height vs hitch height thing seems like it would vary by car, though, is there any way for a non-car-person to know beforehand how that aftermarket situation will look on different models? Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 09:08 on May 16, 2021 |
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nwin posted:It sounds like you already have a few cars in mind with the Prius and Fit and Soul you mentioned. Why not do a search on edmunds or something to see how much those cars would cost with the features you want-then test drive to see if they meet your comfort level? I do, but I also have no idea what I'm doing or talking about, so I assumed someone might have other/better suggestions to check out as well.  I'll start there, though!zedprime posted:You don't trade in a car and get an equal but different car even when it isn't hell market. They're probably turning around and selling a low mileage Accord like that for $15k. The Accord is the upscale feature selling mobile so it's going to have collision assist early in model years compared to others. I think you're already swayed to mod your Accord but in your price range, even going up to $15k, you probably trading tech for storage space. Thanks for this too, this puts it into perspective a bit more. I guess I was heavily underestimating how much profit they'd be aiming to make, probably because I've primarily bought and sold private party in the past. I also didn't realize the Accord was specifically a featuremobile, that explains why it's been so frustrating trying to find that level of tech in other cars from the same year range. This particular car has the fancy trim, so I thought the toys came from that and not the model itself. Blitter posted:Tons of videos on youtube for fitment reviews and installation; looks like the kurt fits pretty snugly. I really appreciate this and all the other feedback on hitch mount vs the other options available. Sounds like we'll be doing a hitch no matter what vehicle we end up with, and maybe even just slapping one on the Accord until the market is less hosed? That Kurt looks alright. Space Gopher posted:Forward collision warning/AEB is a good thing in the abstract, but if you find yourself relying on it, you really need to re-evaluate your driving before you have to hose somebody's kid out of the grille. Thank you for that colorfully horrifying warning. I did not think I would have to specify that I'm still watching the road and not relying on FCW to do that for me, but this is SA, so I guess that's on me. No sensor is perfect but it's still an objectively great thing to have for when a vehicle in front of you slams on their brakes unexpectedly while you're checking a mirror, fixing your GPS, etc. If that's not a thing that happens to you regularly, I envy you. It has saved me several times because pre pandemic I drove a ton, and drivers in Florida (especially the Tampa Bay Area) are notoriously awful. Maybe I would have avoided those collisions on my own without the sensor. Maybe I wouldn't have. I'm not interested in finding out, nor in arguing about this one.
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Motronic posted:Well that answers that: you're a routinely distracted driver. You don't have to envy anyone for not putting themselves in these situations: just stop putting yourself in these situations. You should be able to see forward while checking your mirrors. You can pull over to "fix" your GPS. You shouldn't be following someone so closely that them slamming on their brakes causes such an imminent issue. Yes, I have severe ADHD and I do my absolute best. We have already talked about it in this thread. I don't follow closely, I don't gently caress with my phone unless it's strictly necessary, and I do pull over whenever it's a realistic option, but I can't just stop being distractible. Not driving isn't an option, so I try to equip myself with as much additional assistance as possible for my own safety and that of others on the road. I really don't know what you want me to say to that post, but I do know you have a habit of swanning into any thread where you have a modicum of expertise, insulting the posters asking questions, and then fading into the background while others with chill come in with actually useful takes on that thing. I let it go the first time so you could get your usual dig in. You've had two now. Can we please move on to the phase where you gently caress off? Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 17:09 on May 16, 2021 |
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Loan Dusty Road posted:You mean like when posters ask to replace their perfectly fine car for something better aren’t willing to spend more than the current car might be worth? That's fair. I'm fine spending more, it'll just mean waiting until next year. I was hoping I could do it as a sidegrafe this year by giving up some of the non-safety tech, but alas. This was all valuable feedback, even the driving habits stuff. It's not all that useful given that I'm already aware of it and working on it, but I know it's well meant.
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