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obi_ant posted:So I own/owned a new 2008 Volkswagen 2 door GTI and I'm in need of a new car. Long story short, the car is missing. I don't really know what I'm talking about. I just came in here to ask for recommendations myself, but in classic internet fashion I'm going to say something like I know what I'm talking about and others can tell me if I'm wrong. Maybe a Mazada 3? It pretty much checks all your boxes and I think it looks super sharp in hatchback form. (I'd really like to see a Mazdaspeed 3!) Now on to me. I've got a budget of...well let's say $25k but that's not really a hard limit, but there's got to be good reasons to go above that, and to tell you the truth we're really liking this used 2014 Mazda 3 hatchback I'm seeing locally for $19k with 22,000 miles. My wife really likes her 2003 Explorer which is why she's still driving a 2003 Explorer. She's OK with the 3, but also keeps wanting something more in line with her 2003 Explorer and it's amount of interior space. I guess we both like gadgety boop-boop-beep features, and something that doesn't feel like it's wheezing for power. We've also drove some stuff like a Q5, XC60, and a GLK (all used for between 25k and 30k) and liked all of them, but I'm hesitant because you go a couple years older compared to a non-luxury brand to be in the same price range and I'm not sure how the maintenance will be on any of those. Fusion Hybrid was nice enough too. Pathfinder was kind of 'meh'. I've got this aversion to buying something with higher mileage (say more than 45,000 miles), but I could be talked out of that. In the past we've mostly kept vehicles for 5+ years. She's had her Explorer for 11 years! However, we've been lucky enough to have had nicely-increasing incomes recently, and I might upgrade whatever we get in say 18 months, so maybe something thats known to hold value well? Anyway, as you can see we're all over the map on this. Anyone have anything to say about what we should get or if we should definitely avoid any of these? edit: Oh, I guess its apparent I'm looking at used stuff.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:newish Ford Explorer, game on. Unfortunately, I'm not a big fan of the interior...particularly the drivers seat feels kind of cramped to me. Which I don't like when I'm driving this thing that feels like driving a big lumbering beast. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:oh by the way if you are really lookin at a 2014 Mazda3 with 22k miles for 19k i got some awesome land to sell you too We'll see. I'm going to go look at it tomorrow I think. The price is a little on the low side, but it's a private seller and I see several of them with less than 30k for around 20 thousand.
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Jun 8, 2016 03:24
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Throatwarbler posted:2014 was 3 model years ago, we're in 2017 now. $14k would be a good price for that car. Interesting, that's at least 5k lower than I see any available for within 200 miles with a couple thousand results. edit: oops, I was wrong about the results count. Not that many. Anyway, if I filter results to 2014 Mazda 3's with less than 45k miles, the average list price is over $17k. If I filter to S-series to get the bigger engine the average list price is a hair under $21k. Those prices are about in line with KBB and Edmunds tells me they should be... KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Have you actually tried a remotely new Explorer (2011 on) or are you basing this off of your 2003? I've drove a 2013. Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Jun 8, 2016 15:43
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:For Explorer guy, what about : Those look like good ideas. We'll look into them.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:30
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Does anyone keep track of depreciation of various vehicle models over time and make that data available to the public?
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Jun 14, 2016 15:35
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I don't know if there's a better thread for this, but... I've got a 13 year old car that I want to sell. KBB and Edmunds says its worth about 4k. It needs about 1k worth of work on the suspension. Better to get the work done and sell it for 4k, or try and sell it for 3k and tell people about the work required?
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Jun 16, 2016 19:30
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IOwnCalculus posted:stuff I like the way you think
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Jun 16, 2016 21:14
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Those are all things I've drove recently (for the same reason...wife ruled out minivan). Also take a look at the Durango...its my favorite out of the four with the highlander being my least favorite. I like the Durango the most because of seating position, interior quality, aesthetics and a great electronics interface. I'm sure a Highlander will last longer with lower maintenance purely by virtue of being a Toyota but it was my least favorite to drive and the most boring interior and exterior. The Honda was inoffensive and uninspiring. The Explorer is good, but it feels like you're driving something bigger than any of these with lower visibility.
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Jun 22, 2016 15:09
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Heh, you sound just like me. I hadn't even really considered a Dodge because of feelings about it having a not so great reputation... I just looked at a used one on the lot I was already at on a whim. I mean I'm no car expert anymore (I used to be really, really in to cars), but the reading I've done indicate that it's fine nowadays and the Durango in particular gets good reviews.
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Jun 22, 2016 16:07
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Throatwarbler posted:Reviews don't really say a lot about reliability. This isn't exclusive to automobiles, it's basically a problem with all "professional" reviews for all products. I just made the exact same observation last week in a gadget thread in IYG. However, here I was specifically talking about perusing owner reviews and comparing relative number/severity of complaints. That's a noisy operation with all sorts of biasing effects, of course. Also, you can glean some useful information from stuff like long term tests these various car mags do and professional reviewers will often make comments like "unlike the Manufacturer X of the past, Manufacturer X of the past few years have had a much better reliability record"...or something to that effect. Of course the whole reliability thing is difficult in general. As you mention, quality and reliability can vary from model to model under one make...and then there's the fact that for many models manufacturers put out newly developed versions every few years, so who knows for sure what the reliability of that model is going to be going forward. Or, of course, we could all drive a Prius.
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Jun 22, 2016 16:56
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Also, at least in my area, the inventory is pretty limited.
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Jun 23, 2016 18:15
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Chu020 posted:. FWIW, I've drove all of those recently and the cx-5 is my favorite mainly because it's got a nice sporty feel to it...at least compared to the others.
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Jul 11, 2016 05:01
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nm posted:What about a mazda 3 (or newer 6 if you want more space, though a 3 hatch will carry more stuff if you drop the seats)? This is a good option. We've decided to not go with the 3 just because the wife likes SUV's, but a fully-loaded hatchback Mazda 3 (2014-) is my number one choice...and I'm comparing it to some vehicles that cost up to 10k more. It's got a nice interior, drives great, good gas mileage. Personally, I'd always upgrade to the 2.5 over the 2.0 because it's a more capable engine with barely a dent in the gas mileage.
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Jul 17, 2016 17:29
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I've been actively comparing cpo vs regular used on Mazdas with less than 10k miles for the past couple of months and I'd guess the premium is around $500 or less.
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Jul 21, 2016 18:33
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FogHelmut posted:Like $200 better? Or like $1000 better? Why don't you just compare Costco price to edmunds/kbb/whatever?
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Aug 5, 2016 01:40
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Sits on Pilster posted:That's pretty crazy. 2016s or 2017s? I'm only seeing 2017s at Dallas dealers and still a ways away from $14k. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...Year=2016&Log=0
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Aug 11, 2016 20:48
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TKIY posted:and are still better quality than the American products. This is not necessarily true from the tons of reviews I've read the past few months. Some are, some aren't.
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Aug 14, 2016 19:58
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That doesn't follow. Their quality is fine and good and so is a lot of American stuff.
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Aug 14, 2016 21:02
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Out of what you're looking at the Mazda 3 is the most enjoyable to drive, and has fine reliability. edit: I forgot to say that I can't speak towards a Mazda 3 prior to 2014, but the infotainment system in the 2014+ is fine. Probably the best amongst it's competitors, but I'm not positive about that. Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Aug 15, 2016 18:16
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DNK posted:Is there a reason you don't want FWD with super torqued acceleration machines? My noob view is that FWD would be preferred due to the engine weight over the axel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque_steering That being said, some vehicles manage this better than others. I'll always have a soft spot for the '93 Taurus SHO I used to have.
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Aug 24, 2016 16:08
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KodiakRS posted:Proposed Budget: 25k-30k (USD) The CX-5 is excellent. I'd go with a 2016 as they got a slight design refresh and you can get more doodads on it if you care. The Edge and Murano are both just OK. The electronics interface is better on the CX-5 than the Edge. I'd get a used 2016 CX-5 before I got a new 2015. There are some thoughts for you.
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Aug 24, 2016 23:19
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Teeter posted:Isn't the CX-5 the one that's more like a Mazda 3 crossover? Thats fairly accurate.
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Aug 25, 2016 18:53
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Look at the new Mazda CX-9.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:54
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Autotrader.com has by far the greater inventory of listings unless you're looking for niche stuff. Source: I wrote some scrapers for all the big sites to help with my car search and I've become very familiar with what's on them all. It's too bad the actual UI and functionality of their site and apps sucks so bad.
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Aug 28, 2016 14:26
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Yeah, I should have qualified that what I said probably only applies to vehicles less than 5 years old or maybe another way to say it is vehicles that a dealer would have on their lot.
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Aug 28, 2016 15:34
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IOwnCalculus posted:You also have to consider possible tax benefits. In AZ, and as far as I know many states, sales tax is calculated on the net sale price after trade, so you get a bit of it back. In MO at least if you sell it privately you have 180 days to buy another car and not pay sales tax on that amount. After taking our 2003 explorer in good condition with average miles to 4 different dealerships we went ahead and sold it outright instead. The best were going to get out if it on trade was $1800. We sold it for $3900.
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Aug 29, 2016 14:14
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Any advice on buying a vehicle from a out of state dealer? Say I find a car online that I want to buy...just a normal 1-3 year old vehicle of whatever sort...but I'll have to fly or drive a day to get it. What kind of things should I try to do with the dealer beforehand to avoid getting there and there being some sort of holdup in the purchase? I'm picturing getting to the dealer, the vehicle being what I expected, sit down to sign the papers and oh no the dealer has a hidden $500 fee, or they can't figure out how to sell to someone out of state, or what the gently caress ever and then I've got to pony up more money or go home empty handed having wasted the time/money on the trip.
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Aug 31, 2016 21:57
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:How far are you planning to go and how common is the car? It's a common car with an uncommon combination of options. I'm looking for a used 2016 Mazda CX-5. Not rare at all you say? Wife wants activsense on it (adaptive cruise, smart braking, etc, and only available on the 2016). Right now there are about 20 CX-5's with activsense for sale in all of North America and the closest one is 300 miles away, and the closest I would consider because of price and other options is 600 miles away. There's multiple new ones close by, but a used one with 8k-12k miles is ~5 grand cheaper.
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Aug 31, 2016 23:51
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IOwnCalculus posted:Weird that there's that much depreciation already. This summer while really looking into buying a car I've found that higher-optioned models of most manufacturers seem to depreciate a good amount more than entry level version of the same model. At least for the first year/first sale.
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Aug 31, 2016 23:58
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everdave posted:plus I assume you will save destination fees and "doc" fees? What is the price on new vs used? I am just interested Used ~28,000. New ~33,000.
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Sep 1, 2016 03:31
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everdave posted:Do you have info on this vehicle? 5k is 5k but I'm not gonna save that if I'm stepping into a rental. Right now there are so many off lease and previous rentals flooding inventory it is crazy town with used models going for near or ~2k difference between new. Why are these features so important to your wife? There's not a particular one that I'm eyeing, I'm just not going to wait forever for one to be available next door to me either. She likes the safety aspects and they're just cool, though it really doesn't matter to me why she wants them... We're getting a little bogged down in the details when I was really just wondering if there was any general advice about buying cars long distance.
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Sep 1, 2016 05:51
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nm, kyoon, everdave: all good info, thanks.everdave posted:No worries man I was just wondering because I see NEW cx5 for as little as 20-22 (yes I know seriously under your spec) that is a big difference. If you can find a dealer long distance who won't f you there is no downside to fly and buy the warranty is good everywhere Yeah, it's crazy how much options add on to the price of a car. It's not uncommon to see one model of car with a price range spanning 10grand depending upon the options. Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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Sep 1, 2016 15:56
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FogHelmut posted:Drove it. Did not like it, even thought I really like how they look. I like everything about the Flex except how it drives. It drives way more like a boat then any of its competitors.
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Sep 4, 2016 19:54
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FogHelmut posted:I bought the Ford Edge. We had previously test drove the FWD version, but the AWD drives like a much better car. I got a very optioned out SEL for the same cost of the less optioned Pilot EX. Nice car. Good going!
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Sep 5, 2016 03:01
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I've specifically told dealers twice that there's no keep-a-building fee because that's part of their vehicle price and that they just want an excuse to charge more or they've got bad bookkeeping if they can't figure their overhead correctly. I then walked out. One time they dropped the fee, another time I bought something somewhere else. Always be willing to walk! Doc fees are frickin idiotic.
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Sep 9, 2016 01:56
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I pay a couple bucks a month for roadside assistance on my cell phone plan. Between wife and I it easily pays for itself every year with lockout assistance, jump starts, towing, gas delivery, whatever.
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Sep 13, 2016 17:42
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H110Hawk posted:Yes? I hate the new touchscreen everything. It doesn't have to be touchscreen to not look like a piece of poo poo.
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Sep 15, 2016 21:52
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Very nice!
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Sep 17, 2016 01:03
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Have you drove one? They're quite enjoyable to drive. I mean, no, they're not drag racers, but drag racing is boring! In other news, if any of you are looking for vehicles through autotrader can you PM me your search URLs? I'm working on a project to take people's autotrader searches and do statistics on prices and alerts on listing changes... I'm not promising you anything will come out of it, but it might. I'm just needing to gather some data from real searches to make sure I'm not missing any edge cases when scraping their data. Of course, autotrader doesn't like people scraping their data so if I actually make something other people can use besides me it will probably just be limited to people in this thread.
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How does even an expert know if all the airbags work?
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