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If you're looking at used cars and want the space, I can't see a reason why a 2000ish Mazda Protege5 wouldn't be on the top of the list. Other options could be a Scion xB or something like an Integra liftback.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2013 05:33 |
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2024 05:07 |
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The 2012+ Civic Sis are pretty bad. Honda revised the 2013 model, but it doesn't hold a candle to the 2006-2011 ones.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2013 05:27 |
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Throatwarbler posted:What's your issue with the 2013? They're boring and the aesthetic is bad. I mean, straight from Honda (via MotorTrend): quote:So what happened with the 2012 model? Honda says it miscalculated market demand. Since the model was developed during the American financial crisis, Honda executives believed consumers would accept lower-quality cars so long as they were fuel-efficient and affordable. That didn't turn out to be the case, as competitors launched a range of compacts with expanded feature lists and improved quality (think Focus, Cruze, Elantra, etc.). Tell me that a * < 1 year turnaround isn't going to be full of compromises and bad design.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2013 11:53 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Like what? Give us an example of how the Si, which has a completely different drivetrain and interior than the regular Civic, and doesn't really look particularly different on the outside than the 2006-10 model you love so much, is "full of compromises and bad design". It's impossible to think that a mid-year refresh of a car that was poorly received might not match up to the competition? 2013 Civic Si Coupe: 22.5k, 201hp/170ft-lbs 2013 Ford Focus ST: 23.7k, 252hp/270ft-lbs 2013 Mazdaspeed 3: 24.2k, 263hp/280ft-lbs
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2013 21:41 |
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Throatwarbler posted:So your criterias are power and price? The Civic is also 300lbs lighter than either the Focus or the Mazda and it has a real helical LSD standard which the Focus doesn't have at all, it's going to have the upper hand in cornering grip. The Civic has a moonroof and backup camera standard, it's pretty much fully loaded except for nav, so comparably equipped the price difference between it and the Focus is more like $3000 or more. The 2012 Civic Si is a straight up bad car. That was my argument.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2013 00:57 |
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MattD1zzl3 posted:Im already driving a miata, im not sure what a neon could do that a $2,000 neon does better, or as well? I'm looking for something cool that will take care of AI needs the miata wont, and to cover my rear end on the offchance it blows up one day. Maybe something that can tow/transport, maybe something old, maybe something with a carb, who knows. I've read this like 5 times and I still don't know what you're getting at.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2013 18:33 |
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Sign up for Pen Fed and get a 1.74% loan for $7500, buy a Miata.
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# ¿ May 1, 2013 00:10 |
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IOwnCalculus posted:Not only is this advice true, it's coming from a guy who drives a car that can be arguably considered the end development of the Lebaron line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7aDstrDMf0&t=160s
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# ¿ May 11, 2013 05:06 |
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compton rear end terry posted:, especially if it makes it easier to move my hands in the engine bay If you think that the Miata is a hard car to work on and has a cramped engine bay... If you're looking for more "go", I'd aim for a 5.0 Mustang. They actually are decent in the corners, and they have more character than the 350Z. E: I'm bad at reading. Put $13k down on a 5.0
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# ¿ May 23, 2013 13:52 |
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nm posted:Test drive a Mazda 2 manual. I just bought one, and I thought is drove way better than the sonic. 0% APR with 0 down with $1000 cash on top this weekend only (ends 7/1). A 2013 2 Touring is a ~$15k car all day with the cash on top. One of us. One of us. One of us. What do you think of the rear seats/leg room back there?
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2013 00:38 |
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Old Man Pants posted:and isn't going to break down or need new parts every 5,000 miles. Well now that we have eliminated Ferrari and Lamborghini... Go test drive a WRX, Mazdaspeed3, Mazdaspeed6, and the Nissan Juke R.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2013 13:32 |
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Mathhole posted:I don't really follow cars. I don't even know what a good range of cars to test drive might be. Can you help me make a test drive list? Check out a CPO BMW 335d. They are in a sporty chassis, will pull like no tomorrow (especially compared to your Fit), and will still get decent fuel economy (30-35mpg). Phone fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jul 17, 2013 |
# ¿ Jul 17, 2013 01:56 |
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skipdogg posted:My sister had a 2002 Jetta with electrical gremlins and the shops in Topeka didn't want to deal with it. She had to drive to Lawrence to find a VW shop that would work on it. She got rid of that car and her 2008 Jetta has been a much better car. This is the one thing I will never understand about VW brand loyalists.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2013 05:55 |
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Anybody who had a shitload of problems with a Mk4 VW and went "Hey, maybe I should give the 5th gens a try," is criminally insane. It's called Stockholm Syndrome. That said, VW makes a great car when it's in warranty.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2013 06:50 |
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2014 Mazda6 (possibly in diesel trim if you can wait) Used Infiniti G37 Used Acura TSX Honda S2000 If you break your rule about no domestics: Ford Focus ST Ford Mustang GT
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2013 00:42 |
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Grab a Miata. It's reliable, parts are dirt cheap, perfect platform for a project later on, and decent economy. There's also nothing dumb that goes catastrophically bad unless if you manage to find a 90-91 that has the short nose crank issue. If you keep your foot out of it, you can average 30mpg on the freeway going 65.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2013 15:59 |
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I did some preliminary research on the 100 Series Land Cruiser/LX470 and this is what I remember offhand: - Towing capacity is rated at 6500lbs - They get sub-10mpg while towing - You might need to put airbags in the back - Main difference from the 4Runner/Sequoia is that they are built off of the truck chassis (tad bit rougher ride) I'm still a few years out from towing, but I'm still considering the LX470 and I might see if I could swing a Ford Flex Ecoboost (if the 3.5L TT doesn't turn out to be a pain in the rear end).
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2013 01:47 |
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Throatwarbler posted:It looks like the stars have aligned for you my son. Between this and being the thread's resident VW apologist, reported for trolling.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2013 03:44 |
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Hahaha an S2K for $6k, yeah OK. If you are not 6'+ tall, look into Miatas.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2013 14:34 |
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Tahm Bwady posted:Found a 92 Miata about 2 miles from me Fast, cheap, reliable: Pick Two. The RX-7 is fast and cheap. The MX-5 is cheap and reliable. (unless if it's my Miata, then it's pick zero )
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2013 20:38 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp3tvDNybzo
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2013 00:39 |
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Miata.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2013 01:39 |
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FISHMANPET posted:Well I test drove the Spark, it wasn't a huge piece of poo poo, I can get the trim and color I want for $13,500, gonna do the needful. Test drive other cars. Check out the Mazda2 at least. Insanite posted:My wife and I can no longer get by sharing one car, so I'm in the hunt for what would be my first car purchase ever. Whew. I have no idea what I'm doing. You're getting a Subaru! Look at Legacys, and there should be a ULEV for some of the models/trims so you can get that sweet parking. (my work offers it, but I had to do a bunch of googling to find out that it's ULEV II Class 5 or some bullshit) Phone fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Aug 24, 2013 |
# ¿ Aug 24, 2013 23:35 |
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CannonFodder posted:I'm in the NC Triad area, my '98 Breeze is probably running on luck at 188k miles and I've got the cash for an upgrade. If you can deal with keeping up with maintenance, look at BMW 5 series. They aren't that expensive to own and maintain, and they'll ride like a dream.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2013 23:37 |
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Because you might find out that the car is laid out better, feels better, and suits your needs better. Yeah, stats on paper are cute, but they don't paint the entire picture. It literally only costs you time versus a multi-thousand dollar purchase.
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# ¿ Aug 25, 2013 01:18 |
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Suck it tall people: I fit into each every car (5'8"). It probably isn't true for nm, but I can comfortably fit 4 people into the Mazda2. Not "yeah, you can put 4 people in it", but actually drive around with 4 people in the car. Somebody who is 6'+ can sit in the back and not be in the fetal position. Modern cars rule.
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# ¿ Aug 26, 2013 15:41 |
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The Impreza is dead nuts reliable, the only thing is that Subaru clutches and transmissions are both pretty horrible and gas mileage sucks due to the weight penalty of the drivetrain. Cars I would recommend taking a look at would be: Honda Fit Mazda 6 (2014+) Subaru Impreza Ford Focus Scion xB
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2013 23:48 |
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The Honda Fit should be bought new since the used market for them is completely ridiculous. While you might be able to score a few grand off of a new one, it will be out of warranty and the maintenance records might leave a lot to be desired. Glad you like the Fit, I was skeptical of the Magic Seats until I saw them in action. nm posted:The new CVT non-turbo subarus actually have pretty decent FE for AWD cars. The non-manual Subarus have part time AWD, I think it's the clutch pack job that every other manufacturer has. The manual Subarus still have full time AWD and the drivetrain FE losses to prove it. Phone fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Sep 20, 2013 |
# ¿ Sep 20, 2013 05:29 |
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Dominoes posted:Just realized that I think I want an RX-8 not because of the rotary, but in-spite of it. I think it's the only moderately-priced RWD sports car available, other than the Miata and FR-S. The RX-8 is a hoot to drive.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2013 00:58 |
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I can't get to it right now, but there is/was a goon in AI who builds/built Dodge Dart and he was making GBS threads on it. His reasons were varied from the build quality to reliability and the way Chrysler was handling lemons. If my memory is correct, I think he said somebody at the plant won one and it cropped out like 2000 miles later. That said, check out the Ford Focus and Mazda 3.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2013 17:59 |
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I'm super good at posting. I'm super good at posting.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2013 17:59 |
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Leperflesh posted:My wife and I have been thinking for a while about getting something we can be confident driving up into the mountains, but can still haul a decent amount of cargo. We've got a 92 chevy S-10 with over 215k miles on it, which has a slew of problems several of which would cost more than the truck is worth to fix. Double check the trim on the car since the Sport is an Impreza and the non-sport is a Legacy. The Impreza is Subaru's compact (think Toyota Corolla/Honda Civic) and the Legacy is their mid-size (Toyota Camry/Honda Accord). Mazda Protege5: Cargo Capacity: 20/24 cubic ft Subaru Outback Sport: Cargo Capacity: 25/62 cubic ft (this seems optimistic maybe?) The only thing that's a real concern about a 2000 Subaru is that it still might have head gasket issues. Somebody who knows more about Subarus can chime in, but basically the first gen 2.5L motors blow the head gaskets like clockwork every 100k miles. It's not an uncommon job to do and it doesn't require bespoke unicorn teeth, so any decent mechanic will be able to do it. If you're seriously considering it, I would demand paperwork from the current owner that the head gaskets have been done. Other issues with Subaru plague the entire brand, namely god awful clutches paired to a stick in a bag of marbles for a transmission and lovely gas mileage. They're solid cars, though and I enjoyed the 1997 Subaru Legacy Outback.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2013 05:57 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Do Miatas have HID lights available? Yeah, they come from the factory with Xenons on Premium package Grand Touring cars.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2013 19:47 |
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The wheelbase is long enough that it isn't a chore to drive.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2013 22:49 |
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You're getting a: Mazda 3 Ford Focus Honda Civic Toyota Corolla Subaru Impreza Or a: Mazda 6 Ford Fusion Honda Accord Toyota Camry Subaru Legacy
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2013 18:03 |
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Before he was a completely talentless hack, PJ O'Rourke wrote an article about how a rental car is the best handling car. It takes curbs, jumps, and off-roading with no qualms. Take that as you will.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2013 02:50 |
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visuvius posted:Haha yeah I totally meant 6 when I said 626 earlier, which I'm over at this point anyway. BMW 335d.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2013 23:28 |
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Cornflake posted:I was looking to buy a new-used Dodge Challenger RT. I saw this thread and figured I could run my thought process by you guys and see what you think or if you had any suggestions. BMW 335d!
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2013 23:12 |
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Indecision1991 posted:Proposed Budget: 35K BMW 335d.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2013 21:28 |
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2024 05:07 |
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Indecision1991 posted:Didnt the new 335's lose one of their turbos? Doesn't matter. The N54 has had at least 5 fuel pump redesigns. 335d (as in diesel) is the answer. You'll have to buy it CPO or just used. 3.0L 6 cylinder making 265hp and 425 ft-lb of torque that gets 35mpg. Phone fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 9, 2013 |
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