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This is nothing compared to what some people have posted in this thread, but it's going to require a lot of time to fix and possibly even a whole lot of money. The lesson here kids is: ALWAYS DO YOUR RESEARCH. These are OZ Superleggera three piece wheels. They are very light, ordinarily very pretty, and extremely expensive on the order of about $1000 each. I may have ruined the gently caress out of them.  That black stuff you see is brake dust. On a whim, I purchased some Hawk Blue race brake pads. I knew they'd chew through the rotors in short order, but they're being replaced next brake job anyway, so I could live with that. What I didn't know and if I had asked around, is that the dust from these pads is straight from the pits of hell and will gently caress up and ruin everything they touch, from wheels to paint to calipers ... you name it. You may think I'm kidding, but just do a google search. Apparently, the dust is just fine unless it happens to come in contact with water and it dries. Not such a big deal on a race car when you rarely see rain and when you do, you can pull the wheels and clean everything up pretty immediately. See, when this stuff dries, it forms a rock hard compound that's a very close approximation to cement. I have tried my damnedest to clean this poo poo. Normal stuff, like most wheel cleaners, don't even make a loving dent. Neither does undiluted Simple Green. I have currently resorted to using brake cleaner along with a very stiff nylon brush, and that is slowly eating the stuff away. Very slowly. In fact, you can't tell, but I've already spent about 30 minutes on the section of wheel in that photo. It really shows, doesn't it? That doesn't count all the crap (see the "rust"?) that's on the painted part of the wheel where I'll have to be even more careful to not scratch the finish. Luckily, OZ puts a pretty thick coat of baked enamel on the wheel, so I should be able to buff out whatever damage I do ... provided I don't eat through the paint with solvent. I'm told that EZ-Off Oven Cleaner in the yellow can will remove all this stuff pretty quickly, but I stand a very good chance of taking the paint off in the process, so I don't want to do that. My saving grace is that I noticed after only using the pads for a couple of weeks and barely any real use at all. Had I gone through the entire pads, I'd likely be hosed. The unfortunate thing is that I can't return the pads and I'm drat sure not going to use them again, so I'm out about $200 on pads.  Just to show you how tenacious this crap is, it's all over the inside of the wheel. I have to clean it off or wheel weights won't stick there. This is fifteen minutes work with brake cleaner and a goddamn brillo pad, which I'm obviously not going to use on the front of the wheel. When I'm done with that, I've got three more wheels to do, then I get to inspect the brake calipers and all the hardware around it and attempt to clean that. I haven't found any of this dust on the exterior paint, so at least there's that. gently caress HAWK BLUES, DO YOUR RESEARCH, KIDS.
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Brain Issues posted:Sorry about your luck man It doesn't matter which mag wheel cleaner you use, none of it is going to work. Look at the inside of that wheel and remember that all that work is fifteen minutes with a very caustic solvent specifically formulated to remove brake dust off of poo poo that generally can't be ruined by solvents. And a brillo pad. Obviously, that's an extreme attack that's only suitable because the inside isn't polished, isn't really visible, and scratching it is no big deal. That still required a lot of elbow grease. EZ-Off will do the trick, but something you probably didn't know (I didn't), is that some people use it as an automotive paint stripper. So I don't really want to go there. But anything I do use has to be pretty loving nasty to handle and stands a really good chance at loving up the wheels and will still require a lot of elbow grease. I have now found I'm not the only one to gently caress this up. A good friend of mine is recommending the use of clay bar, as that worked for him. But it was a whole bar and 25-30 hours. Per wheel. Another has handed me some supposedly paint safe solvent that is specifically designed to remove rail dust on new cars. We'll see how that goes tomorrow. This loving sucks. Here's a few other people who have the same problem.
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I really hope that comes out without ruining the wheels.
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Beach Bum posted:It sounds like the best bet would be to bite the bullet, get them professionally taken down to bare metal, and refinished. It might be. Unfortunately, it's going to cost extra for this job because of the removal necessary and the fact that they're three piece wheels that need special tools for assembly and disassembly. Plus, if I want it done right, the only authorized assembler for OZ wheels in North America is ... Tire Rack. They'll have to be shipped. I figure I'll spend some time today and see how long it really takes. Then I'll make my assessment from there.
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Mar 28, 2011 16:55
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LloydDobler posted:Looks like a standard 12 point driver to me. I bought a set for 10 bucks from Checker. They use those same sockets on Volvo flywheel bolts and also BBS 2 piece wheels. I've seen guys just use high grade silicone sealer to reassemble.
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Mar 28, 2011 20:34
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SwashedBuckles posted:Any progress on the Superleggeras, einTier? Got my new pads today, will put those in tomorrow so I can drive the drat thing again. I've made some headway on the wheels, but the cold front that blew in made it difficult (uncomfortable) to work on them, so I didn't. I think I'll be able to save them, it's just going to take a lot of work.
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Blocko posted:Raceish? Aren't the Hawk Blue considered "Track Only" pads? you think that'd be warning enough. In the latest news, nothing I've been able to get my hands on that's paint safe even dents this crap. I resorted to a time of scrubbing with a brillo pad and brake cleaner, but even that eventually got the best of me. I tried a small test spot of heavy duty EZ-Off, which is the recommended way to clean this crap off, and letting this stuff sit for five minutes removes it with no scrubbing. It must be caustic as poo poo, and if I get any more of it on my hands, we're going to have another horrible mechanical failure involving human beings. I rinsed it off quite a bit, then rubbed a small spot that wasn't coming off easily. Rinsed right afterward. Three days later, I can still feel the rough spot on my finger. Jesus. gently caress. The goal now is to fabricate a barrier, and use the EZ-Off very carefully to remove this stuff from the wheel. There is no way this plan can go wrong, so I will update you on the progress. In other news, I ended up with a free set of Pagid Yellows (also race pads, but none of the issues of the Hawk Blues), so that sort of makes up for the Hawk Blues I'll never use again. einTier fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Apr 4, 2011 |
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Tactical Bonnet posted:There was a joke here about saying "what happened to my FIRETRUCK?" and why he would just yell only the word FIRETRUCK. "FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRREETRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!"
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IOwnCalculus posted:Somewhere, someone is looking at this and going "Yeah, that'd look awesome if it wasn't damaged."
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Jul 11, 2011 03:35
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gently caress. I just let all the smoke out of the Cayman S at the track today. I might be posting some really great photos soon, we'll see. I'm hoping head gasket, but it might be "new engine".
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InitialDave posted:What colour smoke? Or was it that really wonderful tricolour of black, blue and white? Found some oil under the car, maybe half a quart, counting all the oil on the engine. Maybe two tablespoons were it was parked. Couldn't find any on the track, and no one else noticed any either. Top of the engine smells of coolant. We'll see when the local Porsche specialist cracks it open.
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Hello Spaceman posted:Sounds like you might've beaten them to the punch. I'm still assessing options. No idea when I'll get photos. I'm not even sure I want to spend the $500 to have them crack it open completely and figure out what's wrong since it's likely going to cost more to fix than replace. I'm trying to drink to forget. And numb the pain.
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Contraband posted:I don't think many insurance companies would be interested in covering engine damage suffered at a race track.
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Aurune posted:As he put it, it's the first time he's ever leapt out onto a hot track, but he sure as hell didn't feel like sitting in what he thought was a burning car. Burning car is my one excuse to get out of a car on a hot track. After seeing the aftermath of Charles Espenlaub's epic escape, I realize you may only have a few seconds between "ok" and "serious injury". Otherwise, stay put.
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