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Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Yeah, ford sold off AM, jag, land rover, and a lot of mazda shares before the poo poo hit the fan as well.

Also they always had decent economical cars to drop into the US market whenever they needed to, since they had ford in europe making decent cars.
Chrysler didn't have anything ready, GM just want to sell you daewoos.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jul 8, 2011

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Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Yeah for rust repair, more likely beaver, scuttle, sills and floor pans are wanted, not b pillars.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


grover posted:

If propane is such a great refrigerant, why don't we use it instead of R-134a?
Suits air con pressures in a/c suited for building/houses, ie R22 replacement.
House a/cs were on r22, fridges on r12. Notice that car a/c were on fridge gas, not a/c gas. Lower pressures of fridge gas was desirable on car a/cs due to their increased risk of leaks. Propane (and by that I mean r290, which is purified propane with moisture removed), is still way up there with a/c gas (r22) as far as pressures, better to have a lower pressure gas , a fridge gas in it.
r134a doesn't stress the system so much and may not leak due to it's lower operating pressures. House a/c went up in pressure to find a replacement (r22, r407c, r410a and maybe propane - r290) Car a/c need to find a fridge gas to replace it after r12, r134a is an equally low pressure gas, but commercial fridges went to r404a or r507, which are higher pressure, also domestic fridges went to r600a (isobutane) So realy no obvious replacements for a non flammable low pressure efficient refrigerant to replace r12. May as well stick with r134a.

I hate r134a, way better refrigerants. But if the world is 'going green', the 'global warming potential' as rated by scientists is a lot lower than other , better refrigerants or hydrocarbons unfortunately.

edit: V
sorry

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Dec 3, 2011

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


kastein posted:

My tanks don't have caps... I should probably see if I can find some to buy that will fit. Any idea if they take the same size cap as the big-boy tanks?

When I transport my torch tanks (oxy/ace) in an enclosed vehicle, I roll with all the windows open, and check the valve before I put it in, which is right before I turn the car on. And it only stays in the car as long as it takes to drive where I am going. I really don't like the chance of explosions.

Normally I try to use the pickup to transport those tanks. I am a bit less worried about the 75/25 tank simply because it won't explode. Still the risk of asphyxiation though.
I cart around oxy acet, but that's the main reason why I have a falcon ute for work, I don't want any refrigerant or oxy acet cylinders inside the passenger compartment.
Heap of A/C companies use vans though, and have oxy acet and refrigerant cylinders in them, stuff that though.
Actually I don't use the oxy acet much anymore, so leave at at home unless doing really big brazing jobs. I bought a small portable turboset 200 that uses disposable oxy and MAPP cylinders. Expensive to run, (AU$60 oxy cylinder only gives 30min of braze time), but leaves a lot more room in the ute, and easier to carry up onto rooftops for small leak repairs and compressor changes.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Dec 9, 2011

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


EightBit posted:

Probably acetylene or some other welding gas? They did mention that he was driving a van to work as a plumber.
I would be surprised if it was acetylene though. Plumbers mostly use propane/oxy from what I have seen, and use even that less than they used to since it's all gone plastic tubing now, also propane or MAPP is enough for them just brazing 1/2" copper.
Fridgies like me are about the only trade that still use acetylene, due to much larger piping that needs brazing.
Though like a said before, gently caress having oxy/ acetylene inside a van, should use well ventilated utes for stuff like that.

edit: I have heard a case in the UK where a fridgies house caught fire, firies heard there was acetylene on the premises, and just backed away to a safe distance and let the place burn.
The stuff definitely doesn't get much respect to it's dangers down here. Almost every air con company uses vans, and they nearly all have oxy acet in them. Some kind of brazing gear is needed for the job, but a van is more useful to transport a/cs. Strange that nearly every refrig company seems to always have utes. Even though I mainly do a/cs, I still went with the ute, sucks when I need to transport a/cs, but I rather get a trailer for those times, and keep the oxy acet and 4 different refrigerants and nitrogen cylinder, in the tray of the ute, than inside a van.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Dec 12, 2011

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Well, the other reason why fridgies use oxy acet (and not MAPP), is the heat has to be damned fast and localised. Heaps of seals and gaskets will melt if you try to do fridgy work just with MAPP. Also the longer you heat something, the more carbon deposits inside the pipe which will contaminate the system. So like I said, I can only see fridgies using oxy acet for those reasons, and not plumbers. And every plumber ute I have seen for 10+ years has had propane in it, not acetylene, I'd be suprised if most of them had not switched to MAPP.


VV edit: Sorry, I thought it was a bit off topic enough, without posting a picture that is not a mechanical failure. But yeah, buy that poo poo if you need the quick high temp localised heat of an oxy acet on the road, and not have van go boom.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Dec 12, 2011

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


sanchez posted:

All you're missing are some references to bad beer and that'd be the most Australian post ever.
I'm as aussie as mate. Bad beer, nah gently caress that. Coopers for local beer, good stuff that ale, (Australia is useless at lagers).

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Dec 15, 2011

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


The End posted:

Have some microbrewery beers and you might change your tune.

Australia is going through some kind of beer renaissance right now, as long as you steer clear of the big breweries.
Well ,anyway, enough about beer.
Two fatalities from exploding vans in Australia this week, both were fridgies.
The case mentioned before, no one knows why yet, oxy - acetylene cyclinders I've heard were intact. Maybe the guy did domestic fridges and had a cylinder of isobutane (r600a which is in newer domestic fridges sometimes) leaking, maybe he has 'hychill' in there (R290 ie propane that some use as an R22 replacement) could be some weird freak thing with a contaminated HFC refrigerant, or a pile of leaking MAPP gas cylinders?
Second case was definitely acetylene though.

Seriously, gently caress vans if you're a fridgie, get a ute!

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Dec 18, 2011

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Petekill posted:

I don't know what year Commodore that is, but they don't appear to be the most hardy cars in existence:
It's the current model, the VE. Can tell by the flared front arch, the vent behind the front wheel, and the edge of the rear door shape.
edit: So its the same body as the US has for the pontiac G8 and whatever.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Dec 20, 2011

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


CommieGIR posted:

God, the turn radius on the car the detective gets in to...

That my my first thought too. What a terrible turn radius that Leyland Princess has.
I stopped watching after that though.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Slavvy posted:

I'm in new Zealand, we have an upper weight limit on our trucks that was only lifted recently. There are no such ramps in the north island, where I live, as far as I've seen. There may be some in the south island but I'm not aware of it. The overwhelming majority of very long straight sloped roads are motorways which are totally enclosed; there aren't many (or any) mountain roads I can think of that trucks actually use because most mountains are usually circumvented.

This is really interesting and I genuinely had no idea such things existed until reading this forum!

Suprised you hadn't heard of them. Maybe the NZ government is just waiting for people to die first then worry about it?
Perth is pretty flat, we have like one hill trucks need to drive over, and at the bottom of that hill we have a truck arrestor bed because a few years ago a truck's brakes failed and it killed a few people.
I hope the bay works though if needed, because it points to a fair few houses behind that may get a rude suprise if it doesn't work.
http://goo.gl/maps/WdK9M

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Why would you want a new rim under warranty?
A NAIL went through the rim. How does that happen and how weak and soft are those rims?
I'd rather get new rims that are impervious to nails, ie decent normal rims.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


CarForumPoster posted:

A market that thinks: "I want a wheel that's heavier than my current wheel without good reason."

You have not heard of rims bigger than 18"? There's a huge market for that.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


xp67 posted:

If I owned an alignment shop, I'd do this on purpose

If Motronic was in the neighbourhood it would drive them insane.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Sagebrush posted:

Old RX-7s had trouble meeting emissions standards even before catalytic converters were a thing, mostly because of unburned fuel and incomplete combustion products (long, narrow combustion "chamber" = cool combustion = lots of soot) so Mazda's first solution was something called a "thermal reactor". Basically an air pump into a chamber high up in the exhaust system that allowed the combustion to complete and turn the soot and CO into less objectionable CO2. (ie: fuel keeps burning inside the exhaust system). Could it have been that?

I ask just because all the RX-7s I've seen have backafterfired like crazy all the time. Almost as bad as my NT650, which sounds like a popcorn popper when you decelerate with a closed throttle.

And "bridged ports" is one of the more drastic mods you can do to a wankel. There aren't any cams or valves to adjust to get increased gas flow, so if you want more intake or exhaust potential you have to literally enlarge the ports like you would on a 2-stroke. As you grind away material, eventually they get so large that you can't get any bigger without having the apex seal fall out into the port as it traces its path along the rotor housing. The solution is to stop there, leave a line of material ("bridge") that the seal rides on, and keep hollowing out on the other side.

Bridgeports have terrible idle characteristics, just like a huge lopey cam designed for the dragstrip does, but you probably already knew that.
Bridgeports are not too bad, lived with them for a long time, just a little lumpy and surgy at idle. But they are the braap braap sound synonymous with the rotary engine.

Now have you heard of J ports, monster ports? They are what is verging on unstreetable.
And of course, back in the day, peripheral ports. They were the thing for race and drag only.
The original rotaries were peripheral ported of course, and all the recent racing mazdas were peripheral ported as well as that's the best way to get power if having to be N/A.
But old school porting like bridgeport and j port or peripheral porting went away from street 12a/13bs when turbos became more popular.

As far as a reactor, originally my 1974 rx3 must of had one, as it had a light on the dash for reactor overheat but the sensor being near the boot floor and from memory had some kind of giant rear muffler box and rectangular outlet pipe from the factory. Didn't have a thermal reactor (in place of extractors) or an air pump, but could be built to Australia's emissions standards for export, ie different to JDM or USA cars.

But I think the thermal reactor was something different to and on top of that and the air pump recirc system that was fitted to later models.
The earliest 'clean emissions' RX I remember was something about an rx4 being one of the cleanest vehicles in full anti pollution models back in 1973, but not sure if they had an air pump plus thermal reactor, but Mazda did manage to make it be the first vehicle ever to pass 1975 emissions standard and for a year at least it was heralded as the lowest emission car. e: Would not like to see the vacuum line diagram on that car.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Aug 26, 2014

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


You Am I posted:

I think the Ford Escort van predates that by easily a decade

Not to mention the leyland mini panel van.
Hell even the 1977 holden/isuzu gemini had a panel van version.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


They make them, they just don't sell them in the US.
We don't have the large US trucks in Australia, we have all the smaller Japanese trucks, the GMH, and a VW.
Ford and Mazda sell the ranger and bt50 respectively
Nissan have the Navara
Toyota still has the Hilux
Mitsubishi has the triton
Holden with their 'colorado'
Even VW is in the market with the amarok

Big problem is they don't make them in the US and can't import them at a fair price due to chicken tax.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Oct 10, 2014

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


That is hilarious.
Was it supposed to be magic gravel that made it all go away?

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


InitialDave posted:

I'll contribute with a quick photo of how the AA recommended you repair rust-holed sills, back in the days of pounds, shillings, and pence:



Yes, that's chicken wire.

Yes, that's a monocoque.

Yeah, bondo/bog sill panels were common here even in the 1990s.
My first RX3 had them, my second RX3 I did them, wasn't until for 4th RX3/808 chassis I found one without them. My first RX4, there was bondo/bog over the bondo/bog - rust plus what must have been a crash damage. My friends with datsuns had the same thing.
Japanese monocoques and typical rust you find on them and typical 'bog jobs' you found in the 1990s on 1970s made cars.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Oct 25, 2014

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Yeah, Japanese cars gave us reliable easy to work on cars in the late 1970s, which is why they got popular and preferred over the USA and Au domestic brands back then. I had an old mazda 1982 323 bought in 1992 and kept until 2006 with about 300k kms on it.
If you didn't mind it's faded paint, noise of the archaic engine and the outdated safety, it was a good car. During ownership I replaced the starter, alternator and radiator and CV boots, (besides batteries, tyres and brakes that is). Had stuff all rust too, just some bubbles around the rear hatch.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Nov 11, 2014

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Slavvy posted:

I think I'm going against the grain here, but everything I've seen points to the 90's as being the golden age of japanese cars. You could buy a brand new corolla/civic/pulsar and trust them to do 300,000km+ with nothing going wrong, if you serviced them meticulously. Even if you neglected the poo poo out of them like most people do, they still keep ticking along with minor repairs.

I wouldn't trust any modern japanese car to do the same. Reliability overall I think has reduced significantly in the past ten years as manufacturers are able to build cars to fit the warranty period more and more closely.

Yeah this is true, best era for Japanese cars were 80s up to mid 90s where they were trying to be the best they could, and hadn't yet decided "good enough, time to cut cost and budget". When they started making lexus and other off shoot brands, plus also their financial crisis, they really did a number on the quality of their standard cars and got on the planned obsolescence band wagon.


E: VV
I was suprised on the lack of rust on my 323. Baring in mind most of my cars were 1970s mazda rotaries full of rust in their sills and around the front and rear windscreens, the 323 had no rust there at all, just a spot on the rear hatch around the rear window rubber. Mazda really lifted their game in a few years, (and also taught ford Australia a few things about build quality too, since Ford made the 323 here under license as the ford laser, and I've heard ford people say how much better fords in general became as far as paint and not rusting after the mazda people came here)

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 11, 2014

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Slavvy posted:

Interesting. I like it how Ford have the Mondeo while Holden have a string of achingly terrible models that last a few years before being canned for the next saviour of the midsize segment.

I'm looking at you, Epica.


I'm assuming that by 'these days' you're meaning 'past thirty years'.

Last few years?
There's a few reasons why I like ford australia over gmh.
Fiesta, focus, mondeo and falcon are pretty good cars. Previous to them ford used mazda based cars. GMH always had terrible Opels and now Korean cars, before that isuzus.
There was a short dark period inbetween with ford and KIA though.

I still think the falcon was better than the commodore until the VF (when ford au had given up but the falcon was better than the v6 VE for sure). The 4L straight 6 is better than any gm v6, the car is better all round - I've got my 2004 BA mk2 to compare with my partners 05 VZ, the VZ has shittier everything, feel less solid, woeful dash, doors, switches and instruments in comparison.
The only thing GM has is the LSx if you want a V8 on the cheap, that's it. Fords got the turbo 6, LPI 6, ecoboost 3 and 4cyl, ZF g/b
The VF is pretty good, but for a complete lineup from fiesta to falcon/gex and ranger, ford kills it. GM sells the VF LSx and nothing else that isn't rubbish (e: down here)

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Dec 29, 2014

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


That's just van magic, no one cares about them except the British I think.
Down here I was is a bright yellow KIA preggio van doing 70 in a 60. Drove right into a speed trap with a radar gun cop. I thought he was waving me down, he told me to bugger off as he wanted the guy in the sedan behind me.
Still to this day I think what the gently caress, if he had a radar gun my huge van would have been the thing his gun was reading as it's not like it was a laser that's more accurate for individual vehicles, and the cop was pointing the radar down a busy road?
I laughed and took of in a cloud of diesel fumes and smoke in that lovely KIA van.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Never heard of anyone ever having to work on the timing chain on a falcon 4L, lasts forever almost.
OTOH, GMs 3.6L v6 down here had a chain, and they stretch all the time. Same set up as the above pic with the 3.4L, but a chain.
From what I know the new engines were OK in 2004 with a 9mm wide chain, but then they switched to a 7mm chain 2005/2006 (for noise reasons), which stretched.
I never had problems with old I4 mazdas that used a chain either. Chains and tensioners can last as long as the rings/bearing/valve stem seals/chassis does

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Dec 31, 2014

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


From what I know the 3.6L GM V6 engines were OK in early 05 with a 9mm wide chain, but then they switched to a 7mm chain late 05 and 06/07 builds, (for noise reasons they said), which stretched.
Good chains and tensioners can last as long as the rings/bearing/valve stem seals/chassis does

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Dec 31, 2014

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Ford USA should have really got with the Ford Au program. Old 250ci engine -> yamaha designed 4.1L crossflow -> 4L I6 -> Barra VCT
Ford USA had to have V6 because they had to have FWD in large cars...
They don't do V6 well, stinky axe/lynx.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Dec 31, 2014

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


I'm so used to seeing them in RWD form in a commodore. The supercharged version here sucked, only 25HP more than the n/a and also was about 4mpg worse in mpg and needed premium. (n/a 204, s/c 229).
As a comparison, in 2004 the ford 4L ran on regular, had an extra ~15HP in it's n/a form (244HP) over the 3.8 s/c, and had similar fuel economy. And ford offered a turbocharged version on top for funsies that could run pretty high boost.

E:They stopped selling the 3.8L here in 2004, so we had it in various guises from 1988-2004

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Jan 2, 2015

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


The ford had it's own problems, but that said, not much plastic used in either down here back then. Just radiators or trans coolers need work after a while.
The ford falcon was the choice of taxi companies until recently, and many of them went for 400,000km+ without many problems.
I've owned three and each had about 200,000km on them and I've never had to open a motor, just radiator or gearbox was the weak point.

Seems strange to think that the ford I6 started life in 1963 as a 200ci, it got stroked to 250ci in 1969, dropped to 3.9L in 1988 (slightly smaller bore to minimize head gasket failure), increased back to 4L in 1992, and in 2008 ford au were selling a 360HP turbocharged 4L

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jan 2, 2015

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


I can't really say anything about the VF, but early VEs had the timing chain stretch problem, and my partners VZ has a pretty destroyed rear subframe/diff mount problem that needs seeing too, (and it drives like garbage compared to a falcon even if nothing was wrong with it and feels like crap from the inside with trim/quality compared to a ford).
I'm not really a ford or holden guy either (main preference is mazda of course), but giving credit where credit is due. Of course the vz/ve/vf don't have the 3.8L.
I agree Ford sort of gave up earlier, people (inc ford usa and media) have been ringing the death bells since 2000 on the falcon. They've done a lot with a little it has to be said, keeping the 4L alive, turbo, LPI and ZF gearbox and things like that.

oh, I forgot sludging, the new commodores with the 3.6L, (vz I look after and the ve/vf like you mentioned), sludge magnets. i) due to the 15,000km factory service interval - which I guess was a sales point to better the ford, but they brought it upon themselves I guess ii) Cheap servicing and mech or home uses using cheap oil every 15,000km.
A lot of people who maintain their own car service them anyway at 10,000km, the s/h one my partner bought was only serviced every 15,000km, but it was mainly hwy kms and decent fully synth oil was used on it, so far, so lucky I guess.
Typical v6 found in a vz/ve/vf commodore, just picture one or both of the timing chains floppier:

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 2, 2015

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

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Slavvy posted:

VZ's seem to stretch their chains too...
I'd say the 3.6 is just a real princess when it comes to using the right kind of oil. Most people over-estimate the viscosity they need pretty badly, and most oils you find at the hardware store don't meet SN which AFAIK the most recent 3.6's require.
Also, the ZF trans is common to commodore, falcon and BMW. They all leak around that stupid plastic pan that you have to replace every time you remove.
yeah, nah. I did the research on the VZ before I bought it, early ones have the 9mm chain, doesn't stretch. Later on they wanted to quieten it down and were revising the engine all round for SIDI and switched to a 7mm chain both for PI and SI, ie all of them, those are the ones that stretch. Late VZs got caught in that revision, and of course early VEs, but early VZs, not a problem.
Factory oil specs for them at the time (2004) was SL gl3, not much use to recommend SN spec when that didn't exist until 2010, damage has been done and that was my point, too risky to buy a s/h commodore (I just got lucky with getting one for $4750 years ago and it all checked out well enough for the price)
Previous owner used penrite HPR, and while at least fully synthetic, penrite bullshit a lot about their oil, their standards etc. But we know the truth is they use a lot of random products and some mixology they don't back up. Hopefully no damage done and I'll be switching to castrol edge in the future. But I've heard the 3.6L is hard on oil and thins it out a lot due to that, so thinner oil doesn't do it much good, ie choice between 5-30W and 10-40W, go the thicker oil.

Of course I know ZF was in BMW first, my point was ford introduced it first in an au domestic car while GMH were still stuffing around with terrible 4 and 5 spds. Ford 4 and 5spds were terrible too (already covered that), but yeah, my ford 4spd is still better than the VZ 4spd, the falcon with a ZF was better than the VE 5 spd at the time for a competitor, the best holden can do now is claim their trans is now just as good as what the falcon had 6 years ago blah blah etc etc etc for everything. (Just with the ford you have got to fit an air cooler for the ford before warranty runs out, no idea there about the commo...)

Very late edit: What do you know about the "dexos 1" oils? Because that's what GM are pushing now instead of SN-GL5

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Jan 3, 2015

Fo3
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jamal posted:

Pretty sure it's just the next holden ute.

There isn't going to be any holden commodore or ute after the current model. Manufacturing the commodore (and falcon) is being shut down.
They don't sell the ute there, and probably won't start after shutting it down here. Any changes to current lineup would just be face-lifts, and no reason to test them.

Safety Dance posted:

It's supposedly mid-engine, from what I've read. There goes your utility vehicle hopes.

Yeah, I think the point is testing mid engine mounting, not testing a new ute

dissss posted:

The 'sporty' versions of the Holden utes aren't meant to carry any more than a couple of cases of beer anyway - the payload ratings are really low on them

Yeah, I think they're rated at 650kg.
I've just got a regular ford ute for a work vehicle, 1 tonne in the back or 2300kg tow, for that reason.
Unladen, drives like a regular car, which is the whole point of utes rather than a truck. Had a ranger before hand and while good for 4x4, for city/highway I much prefer the performance, mod cons, safety and NVH of a ute

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jan 9, 2015

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

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Computer viking posted:

Well, the block is half the length - I imagine that could be useful?

Same reason why most manufacturers go for a v6, even though the straight 6 is superior. V6 is shorter, allows for east-west configuration in smaller cars.

BIG HORNY COW posted:

A few years ago I helped a friend with an 04 Malibu try to check the level on his ATF, only to find there's no way to do so. Apparently GM felt that making sure you have enough transmission fluid wasn't a job you should be concerning yourself with. It's somewhat frustrating when conventional car wisdom fails so spectacularly.
Yeah, Ford Aus have been doing that with the falcon for about 20 years too. Just plain sucks to do trans fluid change without a hoist.
They stated "lifetime" service free gearboxes too, in order to explain away lack of a dipstick for fluid condition/level monitoring. But what they really meant was once 100,000km or warranty runs out it's not our problem. One thing that sucks about them.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jan 11, 2015

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Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

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Slavvy posted:

90% of modern cars don't have dipsticks, filling through the vent/a hole in the side is routine.
True, it just pisses me off. Like I said, ford haven't had one on a falcon for almost 20 years, and I know it's due to cost saving, but it also damages a brand when they claim it's "lifetime sealed" as an excuse.
My partners VZ (and you know how much that thing annoys me in every GM conceivable way), does have a dipstick for the trans. Also easy for you to say while working in a shop with a hoist etc, but drat annoying for us work from home, uneven lovely driveways or complete lack thereof of flat stable ground. E: I've got an edge I can drive to for engine oil changes/draining, and even trans fluid draining, but no access for trans fluid filling while still being on level ground. I guess GM wins that round.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jan 11, 2015

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Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

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Yeah no manufacturer cares, that's why I hate most of them. To be honest professional mechanics must hate most of the poo poo they pull too, so it's not just about the home mechanic, especially in the US where they seem to be almost subcontractors and get paid per job based on manufacturer's "book time".

e: It's all about "packaging", fit and trim while it works and saving $1 per car to them.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jan 11, 2015

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

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I thought about being a mechanic when I was 17, went into HVAC instead. Still a dumb move, plumbers and electricians earn the most, small domestic HVAC is being killed due to environmental laws and cost - cheaper to pay an electrician and a labourer to fit new ones these days, plus electricians easily being dual trade and doing my job (but things not going vice versa of course). But still, HVAC paid more than being a mechanic so it was good while it lasted. That said, mechanics are paid hourly here by the shop they work for, earn less than any other trade, but a regular paycheck for showing up each day at least. The system it seems they have over there in the US? Scary and just plain wrong. Cars are getting more complicated, time to pay enough to keep/attract intelligent people IMO.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jan 11, 2015

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Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

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The cylinder on the right is the one with the hammered piston, but what's going on with the melted plug and the stuff missing around the valve on the left?

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jan 31, 2015

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Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

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1500quidporsche posted:

PT Cruisers are actually the best retro themed cars because they're the only one that manages to capture the experience of owning an older classic car by constantly breaking down.

I once bought some micro remote control cars, the type where you recharge the car on the controller base for 5min for 15min driving, ones like this:

Got it from a cheap China site so I don't think you had the choice in car or anything.
I ended up with two PT cruisers, and yes, they broke down pretty quickly

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Feb 4, 2015

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Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

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Root Bear posted:

Any guesses as to what's wrong here?



So that's what happens

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

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InitialDave posted:

My general assessment of flat rate is that it puts you in a similar position to being self-employed, only with zero control over what you charge and which jobs you take.

That's my take on it too. In HVAC I was paid for the hours I worked for my employer. $30/hr, 8hr a day.

I have done flat rate though, when I was self employed and had contracts for warranty work. That's the only time you'll come across it here, running your own business and choosing to do warranty work. Of course even then you can still do your $90/hr private jobs mostly, just squeeze some flat rate warranty stuff in when you're not busy or are near by.
e: manufacturers pay dealers flat rate for warranty work too, which is why dealers hate warranty work. But it's the dealer getting paid flat rate, not the mechanic. Flat rate only affects businesses, not employees down here. It would be illegal to treat an employee like a subcontractor when the employee has no say in their hours, pay rate and other free agent things.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Feb 15, 2015

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Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)


Slavvy posted:

Then there are various incentives to be a good corporate rear end kisser and take on as many warranty jobs as possible, like the various certifications and poo poo which make the dealership more likely to be involved in stuff like new advertising campaigns, new model releases, get a decent chunk of any runs of limited edition vehicles etc.
Sounds cool, where do I sign up? In HVAC all you got was a manual and a phone number. I was completely self trained and never even did a course on anything (except for basic trade quals) - didn't even have a face to face meeting with anyone
After hanging around industry forums, I actually got some info from people who worked at the manufacturers or were factory techs that hung out there after hours, and that's the most help I ever got.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Feb 15, 2015

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