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err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
yeah, i've heard that glass mousepads degrade the skates faster than any other mousepad. luckily the feet are pretty cheap, especially if you get them from aliexpress or something. thank you!

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Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

My old G403 gave up the ghost about a month back, my bargain bin laptop mouse is just not cutting it on desktop so I'm looking for advice on a new mouse. Performance-wise it did me fine, although the scroll wheel needed annual cleaning to stay functional and was never quite as slick as the first year of ownership.

Ergonomics is my big concern, though. I've got big ol' long hands, and although the 403 was one of the bigger mice back when I was looking, I've found it's not great for my hand over long durations. I end up falling into a really tense claw grip, and before the logitech dying basically enforced a break from gaming altogether, I would frequently end up with a lot of joint pain in my pinky, from pressing it sideways into the mouse to grip it. Do they make bigger mice that someone like me can more naturally use with a palm grip? Are there more ergonomic options that are still nice and responsive without breaking the bank? Reddit posters seem pretty settled on the G Pro X 2 but $150 is a bit rich for my blood.

TLDR

-ergonomics a top priority
-hand length: 22cm from wrist to tip of middle finger
-Budget: <$100 (yes I see the irony in saying that under this particular thread title)
-performance at least on par with a G403

EbolaIvory
Jul 6, 2007

NOM NOM NOM

Fender Anarchist posted:

My old G403 gave up the ghost about a month back, my bargain bin laptop mouse is just not cutting it on desktop so I'm looking for advice on a new mouse. Performance-wise it did me fine, although the scroll wheel needed annual cleaning to stay functional and was never quite as slick as the first year of ownership.

Ergonomics is my big concern, though. I've got big ol' long hands, and although the 403 was one of the bigger mice back when I was looking, I've found it's not great for my hand over long durations. I end up falling into a really tense claw grip, and before the logitech dying basically enforced a break from gaming altogether, I would frequently end up with a lot of joint pain in my pinky, from pressing it sideways into the mouse to grip it. Do they make bigger mice that someone like me can more naturally use with a palm grip? Are there more ergonomic options that are still nice and responsive without breaking the bank? Reddit posters seem pretty settled on the G Pro X 2 but $150 is a bit rich for my blood.

TLDR

-ergonomics a top priority
-hand length: 22cm from wrist to tip of middle finger
-Budget: <$100 (yes I see the irony in saying that under this particular thread title)
-performance at least on par with a G403

I posted this a while ago but its still pretty much what i'd recommend you do.

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You should look at https://www.eloshapes.com/index.html or something and find something similar to a shape you like and go from there.

If you don't like the feel of the logitech ultralight though. Theres a good chance that until you splash down for a 150+ bougie mouse, you're going to be unhappy with "cheap plastic feels" though. The GPX isn't what I'd call a "lovely plastic feeling mouse" and if you're that upset with how it feels I'm not even sure what you'd enjoy in the ultralight space. I mean yeah sure magnesium mice feel way more solid but we're talking 150+ here for a mouse that may have potential quality control issues and lovely customer service.

With that said theres heaps of good 3395 devices.

https://amzn.to/3SPkzRX

Recommended by lots of people. 35 bucks atm.

https://amzn.to/40SiBSx

Similar to the M600 I linked. I think it even can use the same software, Just comes in cute colors.

https://amzn.to/3ukZDYE

This has a few variants. Also gets recommends in a lot of places.


Return the logtiech and play with cheap clones. Find a shape you like then start searching for your end game but get ready to drop 100+ again.

The only change I'd make is maybe skip the elo shape thing until you find some mice that look like it might work then compare it in elo with the old ones size.

Ultimately I think you're going to end up dropping 100+ if you want a name brand or bougie brand mouse but you'll probably be pretty happy with a clone unless you're super hella picky. I'm still very happy with my m600 for daily desktop use and gaming when I need something to mash a click with so I don't kill my expensive mouse.

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

redstormpopcorn posted:

I'd just shove the 2.4GHz dongle into one laptop and connect to the other with Bluetooth

EbolaIvory posted:

This right here is the answer.

Thank you for the responses! My work laptop has maddeningly few usb's, so I was hoping there was something more elegant. Oh well.

New issue: the gosh darn lights on the mouse are irritatingly flickering non-stop. Not in any aesthetic pattern from the Razer Synapse controls, it just seems flickery and broken. All the answers that pop-up on google are very old or for different razer mice.
  • Any thoughts?

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Ornery and Hornery posted:

Thank you for the responses! My work laptop has maddeningly few usb's, so I was hoping there was something more elegant. Oh well.

On whichever PC the mouse is connected to, open the BT settings panel and say disconnect. (Not forget.) Then go over to the other PC and hit connect. Still super inelegant, but that's the "intended" method. If you're only changing it occasionally it works.


Pretty much any bluetooth device that does multiple connections will only auto-connect to the thing it was most recently connected to previously. Otherwise you'd have your mouse or headset jumping between PCs all the time, including just from signal dropout.

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.


Ornery and Hornery posted:

Thank you for the responses! My work laptop has maddeningly few usb's, so I was hoping there was something more elegant. Oh well.

New issue: the gosh darn lights on the mouse are irritatingly flickering non-stop. Not in any aesthetic pattern from the Razer Synapse controls, it just seems flickery and broken. All the answers that pop-up on google are very old or for different razer mice.
  • Any thoughts?

Without Synapse open it should default to RGB cycle. Does it let you set RGB in Synapse? Your actual RGB strips may be defective. If they look ok when you set something in Synapse, you can use a program called Open RGB to set the lights (or turn them off) without Synapse but OpenRGB needs to apply the settings every time the mouse turns on since Razer mice don't save RGB settings onboard. I was using it for a bit until I got a non Razer mouse, you can set it to launch and apply profile when your computer turns on and use the Windows built in task scheduler to do it at wakeup and such.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Klyith posted:

Pretty much any bluetooth device that does multiple connections will only auto-connect to the thing it was most recently connected to previously. Otherwise you'd have your mouse or headset jumping between PCs all the time, including just from signal dropout.

Logitech has mice that let you choose your output. The M720 for example allows two Bluetooth connections plus the dongle, and you hit a button to cycle between the three connections for your active machine.

Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

Klyith posted:

On whichever PC the mouse is connected to, open the BT settings panel and say disconnect. (Not forget.) Then go over to the other PC and hit connect. Still super inelegant, but that's the "intended" method. If you're only changing it occasionally it works.


Pretty much any bluetooth device that does multiple connections will only auto-connect to the thing it was most recently connected to previously. Otherwise you'd have your mouse or headset jumping between PCs all the time, including just from signal dropout.

Great! Thank you!

Humerus posted:

Without Synapse open it should default to RGB cycle. Does it let you set RGB in Synapse? Your actual RGB strips may be defective. If they look ok when you set something in Synapse, you can use a program called Open RGB to set the lights (or turn them off) without Synapse but OpenRGB needs to apply the settings every time the mouse turns on since Razer mice don't save RGB settings onboard. I was using it for a bit until I got a non Razer mouse, you can set it to launch and apply profile when your computer turns on and use the Windows built in task scheduler to do it at wakeup and such.

Awesome! Thank you!

lines
Aug 18, 2013

She, laughing in mockery, changed herself into a wren and flew away.
Anyone got any experience or knowledge about the Azeron Cyro? I am curious about it: I have a Logitech G600 currently for playing FFXIV, but when that dies I have a Redragon backup that is kinda OK but not great, and the Cyro looks like a really interesting and potentially very comfortable design.

But it's also, obviously, kinda unique, nothing else really like this (heck, there's barely any 12 side button mice of the G600 style, and no vertical ones I know of), and very expensive, so I don't want to contemplate getting it if it's a piece of crap.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

isndl posted:

Logitech has mice that let you choose your output. The M720 for example allows two Bluetooth connections plus the dongle, and you hit a button to cycle between the three connections for your active machine.

yeah it's pretty great.

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

#1 Pelican Fan

lines posted:

Anyone got any experience or knowledge about the Azeron Cyro? I am curious about it: I have a Logitech G600 currently for playing FFXIV, but when that dies I have a Redragon backup that is kinda OK but not great, and the Cyro looks like a really interesting and potentially very comfortable design.

But it's also, obviously, kinda unique, nothing else really like this (heck, there's barely any 12 side button mice of the G600 style, and no vertical ones I know of), and very expensive, so I don't want to contemplate getting it if it's a piece of crap.

I have the Cyborg, which isnít a mouse but I can say that it is 3d printed stuff, mostly. I wouldnít say it is crap but it also isnít going to be the most durable thing in the world. I think they can give you schematics if you want to print your own replacement parts.

lines
Aug 18, 2013

She, laughing in mockery, changed herself into a wren and flew away.

Kibner posted:

I have the Cyborg, which isn’t a mouse but I can say that it is 3d printed stuff, mostly. I wouldn’t say it is crap but it also isn’t going to be the most durable thing in the world. I think they can give you schematics if you want to print your own replacement parts.

This is good to know. I guess that's how they make the economics of it work. How is the Cyborg to use? I looked at it but I couldn't actually work out how it was meant to work.

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Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

#1 Pelican Fan

lines posted:

This is good to know. I guess that's how they make the economics of it work. How is the Cyborg to use? I looked at it but I couldn't actually work out how it was meant to work.

Very, very well in games that support dual input (analog stick for movement and mouse for aiming) and after spending a couple hours tailoring it to your specific hand. They also sell a tenting accessory to make it even more ergonomic, which is a big reason I bought it in the first place.

Downsides include the stick being a standard stick and not a Hall effect one, clicking in of the stick (L3 on controllers) not being recommended because the lack of support, and the hat switch canít be used like a fancy dpad without breaking.

The software is decent. It doesnít auto-switch based on game launch. It does allow for extreme customization and you can label all the buttons on the gui it provides so you can reference what buttons do what on another monitor. You can assign each button a keyboard button, joystick button, or XInput button. Also, macros and chords are possible.

When I use it, it is very comfortable. Much more comfortable than a keyboard. Lengthy learning curve. Still very niche and not a great purchase for many people but is near perfect for me.

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