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I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would go to the trouble of buying replacement parts for a mouse, let alone a $30 budget mouse... It's 30 dollars for crying out loud, I spend more than that on coffee each week. Just buy a new one every year if you like that mouse but the feet keep wearing away.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2013 11:20 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 15:37 |
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Goo posted:SourKraut - Not sure - I only work on gaming stuff so I'm not really familiar with what the productivity guys are doing for older products on OSX. If you ever announced a big comfortable ergonomic gaming mouse that was wrapped in leather like a steering wheel or the grips of a gear stick I'd literally start throwing money at the screen in my haste to buy it. I'm so sick of shiny hard plastic shells.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2013 23:51 |
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I find it pretty stunning that Logitech gaming wireless mice only last a day on a charge... That would drive me insane. My old Sidewinder X8 (rip greatest mouse ever made) used to last a fortnight when the batteries were new. (this is at 2000dpi and all settings to best performance) I used to take the battery not lasting more than 3 or 4 days as my cue to replace the rechargeable battery.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2013 23:36 |
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Razer makes a deathadder for lefties.
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# ¿ May 1, 2013 10:04 |
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Vidaeus, Australian retailers have a legal obligation to provide you with a refund or replacement if a product doesn't last a reasonable amount of time, there is no reason to deal directly with Logitech. The retailer should also be paying any shipping expenses you incur.
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# ¿ May 18, 2013 05:28 |
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Vidaeus posted:Yes, I know that now. It is too late for the other 3 mice that died this way and I don't want a replacement for this one. I don't want any more logitech mice. Anyone have any recommendations? Do you need a mouse that does BOTH free scrolling and point to point scrolling? Plenty of non gaming mice don't bother with notches on the scroll wheel, but I'm pretty sure only logitech does the interchangeable stuff, and their hyper fast scrolling is pretty unique.
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# ¿ May 19, 2013 05:56 |
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Vidaeus posted:So while looking around, I found this thing: I would love to hear your thoughts on it if you do, and where you got it from, that mouse looks amazing. 6.5ft is a tad short as far as cables go though. The deathadder is 7ft, 6.5 is only just enough, maybe a tad too short.
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# ¿ May 20, 2013 16:07 |
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Maybe look into corsair or steel series? They've been well reviewed of late.
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# ¿ May 21, 2013 09:21 |
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Vidaeus posted:Another bit of information on the Func MS-3 that I didn't see mentioned in the review or the website: Why oh why could they not have used an optical sensor? It would have been perfection in mouse form.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2013 16:09 |
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Looks like corsair has released some new mice. The Raptor M40 uses more or less the shell of the M60/M65 which I always liked but uses an Avago ADNS3090 4000 DPI optical sensor, which sounds very promising indeed. I just need to find out how long the cable is, many mouse cables aren't long enough the way my desk is set up.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2013 07:00 |
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Calidus posted:Corsair went mouse crazy, 6 new mice on top of the m65/m95 refreshes. The Raptor M4 might be the g9x replacement I have been waiting for. Some of those mice - the ones like the raptor M4 that have radically different styling - are from corsair buying up another gaming peripheral maker. The former company had a reputation for making cheap and nasty crap, so it would be best to wait a generation for corsair to make improvements. At the moment they are just rebranded existing products. (The M30 is corsair made however, despite the old aesthetics.) I'm thinking ahead to what my next mouse will likely be. (Not that my deathadder 3.5G is dying or anything, but it has its annoying quirks, and I get itchy feet every now and then for something new) It's pretty hard to find a mouse with a good optical sensor, that supports an acceptable CPI, and has adequate cable length. 6.5 feet is only just going to cut it, I may even need to do some repositioning, 7 foot is perfect but the deathadder is the only mouse I know of with a cable that long. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jun 6, 2013 |
# ¿ Jun 6, 2013 15:17 |
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How do people feel about mionix?
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2013 05:33 |
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The mionix 3200 is on my shortlist then.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2013 05:26 |
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What kind of space aerobics are you doing with your mouse to cause a USB cable to come unplugged? Does it not fit securely to begin with?
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2013 04:40 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:I should have known this would happen - I post about how happy I've always been with my G700 and now the left mouse button is dying. I've plugged the receiver into a new USB slot, blown air under the button and even installed FixMouseLMB that stops unwanted double clicks (I've had to mash the button because it's so unresponsive ), but it's no use. How old is it? If you've had it since launch you may have a tough sell, but if it hasn't lasted a reasonable* period of time the store that sold it to you is legally obligated to give you a refund or replacement. (If you have proof of purchase) *There is no real definition of what is reasonable, but most decent stores are sufficiently unwilling to incur the $25000 fine for refusing to give you a refund that you should be able to make them give in with a few threats. The ACCC has been on the warpath lately when it comes to retailers refusing to provide refunds and replacements, they are looking for people to make examples of.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2013 16:49 |
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icantfindaname posted:Does the Steelseries sensei raw have a good sensor, as in no acceleration or anything other than raw input? I'm thinking about picking one up. No. The sensei mice all have laser sensors, and all laser sensors have some degree of crap like acceleration and what not.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2013 03:59 |
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chippy posted:Is there some technical reason for this, or is it just how they're all made? I'm not sure. I'm not an expert on the technical side of things, it's just what I've learned from reading reviews, for some reason you can't get a laser mouse that doesn't have some degree of acceleration. That's why all the pro gamers are using optical mice. That being said, most people probably don't care/can't tell the difference, but if it matters to you, there are a good number of modern optical mice out there, and being optical, they tend to be very affordable.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2013 14:49 |
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Absorbs Smaller Goons posted:Is the logitech warranty & customer service not what it used to be? I've had their products replaced out of warranty with shipping at their expenses, and they were generally regarded as having the best customer service in the entire computer peripherals industry by others. Going to give my usual spiel about Australian consumer law here. Australian Law requires retailers to provide you with your choice of a refund, repair, or replacement for damaged items, items that fail to last a reasonable length of time (this can often be deemed to be much longer than the standard warranty), differ significantly from what is described, have some issue that would have prevented you from purchasing it had you known about it, or fail to do something that a salesperson said it would. Retailers are obligated to pay any shipping expenses you incur in the process of returning the item to them. There are very large fines for businesses that do not comply with these laws, and the ACCC is currently very keen to make examples of non compliant businesses. If you have an issue with a product, return it to the store you bought it from. There is no reason whatsoever to interact with a manufacturer.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2013 08:45 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:I'm honestly surprised we still have physical "wheels" on our mice. Like the balls that used to be underneath them, wheels just collect crap. Nasty crap. We need solid state mice. There are any number of mice that do this. I would never use one of them for gaming.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2013 10:41 |
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Stangg posted:I have a Sidewinder X8 that I've been using for 3 years now. I bought it as my first "gaming" mouse for one main reason, I wanted something wireless with as little lag as possible. I also bought it because it was cheaper as part of the keyboard/mouse deal and I thought it looked cool. It has never failed me or degraded in use, I love the little magnetic charger and its weight/way it feels. It was a great mouse, and it's such a shame Microsoft stopped making them.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2013 05:31 |
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Stangg posted:Oh I didn't know that, did they not sell very well? Not sure - every publication raved about them, I think Microsoft just decided to refocus on gesture and touch enhanced bullshit for windows 8 and just decided to stop making gear aimed at gamers and enthusiasts.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2013 17:37 |
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spider wisdom posted:So this is weird. What brand of mouse is it so I know what to avoid?
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2013 06:21 |
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Some Questions for Goo regarding the upcoming G602 which is making me rather excited in my pants: 1. Does the mouse prefer a hard or soft mousing surface? 2. What are the Dimensions of the mouse (and why isn't this information included in specs for your mice on the logitech website?) 3. What sort of batteries are the 250 hour battery life estimate based on? Standard Alkaline Batteries? High performance Lithium batteries? 4. The mousewheel looks oddly smooth in pictures - I assume it still spins in notches?, a mousewheel without notches is a dealbreaker for gaming. 5. Can you go into more detail on the surface material - It looks kinda glossy in pictures, is it a more rubberised soft touch kinda plastic, or a hard smooth material? 6. I assume as an optical sensor it is free of any acceleration? 7. The 500hz polling rate isn't a big issue for me, but I'm curious as to why you didn't include 1000hz, and just implement a 3 mode switch instead of a 2 mode switch for the power profile, thus giving gamers who insist on 1000hz the option to trade battery life for polling rate? 8. How stiff are the side buttons? Some more general feedback for your feedback hat: I really like the new aesthetic direction this mouse represents. Aesthetics have been a major contributing factor towards me not having purchased a logitech mouse up till now, so the new direction is great to see. I'm keen to see the following trends for mice: - Greater use of rubberised coatings, since they are grippier and produce less sweat - More defined pinkie ledges so that palm grippers don't have ring and pinky fingers trailing on the mousing surface. One thing I've noticed with mice is that hand gunk gets into the joins and gaps on the surface of the mouse. It's particularly bad on my deathadder, since the LMB and RMB form part of the top panel of the mouse, so the gap is wider. I find myself often cleaning gunk out with a business card. Now obviously the shell needs holes where the buttons are, but would it be feasible to design a mouse where the shell had no joins anywhere on the surface where a person's hand would sit during use? Say for example the top and sides where a single piece of plastic? Thanks in advance and thanks for being willing to engage with the community like this.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2013 16:45 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:Didn't even know there was a G602 in the pipeline. So glad I held off replacing my ailing G700 when the left mouse button started dying. I just remapped it to another button and kept on rocking, but I've certainly been looking to upgrade. The batteries supposedly last a minimum of 250 hours, under maximum performance mode. That's a big part of the deal that makes this new mouse so impressive.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2013 16:00 |
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Goo posted:I will forward that to the QA and software teams when I get back from PAX. Thanks. Thanks for the response. To clarify, I wasn't suggesting you implement a deathadder style hinge - I hate them - I was using them to describe how hand gunk gets stuck in the seam that runs along the side of the mouse because having the buttons be part of the top surface of the mouse like razer does makes the seams wider, and the seams run along the top of the mouse, making them constantly under your hand. I also want to thank logitech for designing what is to my knowledge the only wireless gaming mouse with an optical sensor. As a gamer who would never use a laser sensor, I've spent ages wondering why there weren't any and hoping somebody would make one - It's always felt like optical sensors were reserved for cheap low end mice, (though I understand the marketing reasons behind that) and I'm glad to finally have a premium product to buy. And once again I love the new direction - nothing says premium product like simple black and silver - logitech mice in the past -I'm looking specifically at the aesthetic exemplified by the G400, G500 and G700 - have always seemed kinda cheap and tacky, and that super smooth finish to the top surface of those mice was terrible. The new design on the G602 looks much nicer.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2013 07:34 |
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Obese FYAD Reject posted:Then again, I don't really NEED a new mouse since my Drakonia is in good shape and I really like it. Sometimes it's about wants, not needs.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2013 08:05 |
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PreformedSoup posted:I've been using a Razer Deathadder 3500 for the last couple years now and it's started doing funky stuff (clicking on it's own occasionally) so I'm looking for something new. I still have an MX518 but I've really gotten used to the 3500 DPI speed. How has the general experience with the G400 been? My only gripe with the G400s (and really all of Logitech's gaming mice) is that all the new mouse shells look like, in my opinion, absolute rear end. I know a few goons recommended the Zowie Evo but it looks like it only goes up to 2300 DPI. Any recommendations to transition from the DA? Mionix Naos 3200
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2013 05:58 |
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MrCodeDude posted:My Razer DeathAdder is going out again, I think tossing it around in a backpack was the final straw. You could try a mionix naos 3200, or something from zowie.
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2013 04:37 |
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Looks like the G602 will be available in Australia from the first of November for $92. It's a tad more than I wanted to spend but at this stage I think I'm going to pull the trigger and buy one.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2013 06:06 |
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NihilCredo posted:I just found this infographic on an imageboard. Aware of the fact that 90% of players won't ever notice the kind of behaviours outlined in the picture, can Goo or another professional comment on the part at the very bottom where it claims tracking issues with the ADNS-9500 sensor, due to the self-adjusting frame rate feature? Most pro gamers will tell you that Laser sensors are marketing bullshit, and a mouse has to have an optical sensor to be acceptable. (that being said the naos 3200 is optical and I had no idea about the angle snapping issues.) The logitech G602 is optical however, so it may very well be added to the good tier. It is as far as I know the only gaming grade optical mouse that is also wireless.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2013 13:13 |
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Klyith posted:I have a cat. The way pretty much all optical mice these days are constructed, they can get a cat hair caught in the recess where the sensor is. When that happens it messes up the tracking and OH MY GOD MY KILLSTREAK gently caress YOU CAT. Gotta send my cat off to the shelter to get the big needle, can't have anything loving up my leet gaming skillz. That's a little drastic there dude. You can always just shave your cat.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2013 14:57 |
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Agreed posted:Yep, I ended up sitting on 4000 x/y as I find it's most comfortable for me. I am not a DPI evangelist, this is just the setting I prefer. Razer's drivers are so lovely they involve having an internet connection and connecting to the cloud. Consider one of the new logitech G602s as well - even nicer shape, really well suited for palm grippers; only gaming grade wireless mouse with an optical sensor that I know of. It's a fantastic product.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2013 12:58 |
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Agreed posted:Logitech has the most comfortable mice I've ever used, but I am done with wireless mice (even the kind that have a cord you can plug in to charge, hassle I don't need and a lot of technology there that just isn't doing me any good). Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the cord and I'm sticking with wired keyboard and mouse as long as it's still a thing. Well hey if you want to connect your...um...driver... to my butt that's entirely acceptable to me. The deathadder doesn't have a dps button on the mouse, you have to fire up the software every time you want to adjust it.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2013 14:19 |
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Too Poetic posted:How are Cooler Master mice? I'm looking at the CM Storm Inferno, it looks good. I'd be replacing my G9x, I like it but it's my 2nd G9x in 2 years that I have had problems with double clicking. Get a Logitech G602. Pretty much the best wireless gaming mouse out there now that the Sidewinder X8 no longer exists.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2013 13:38 |
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Too Poetic posted:Any reason to get the G602 over the G700? Because the G602: 1. Doesn't look like poo poo 2. Is one of the only logitech mice to have a decent sensor (and is the only wireless gaming mouse I know of to have a good sensor)
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2013 02:36 |
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AlphaDog posted:The g500s I bought a couple of months ago no longer changes between freescrolling and clicky scroll as of 5 minutes ago. Pressed the button, nothing happened. Pressed it again, and now it's stuck in this lovely not-quite-either-mode mode. I use the button maybe once a week when I'm scrolling through spreadsheets or PDFs, it's usually left in clicky mode.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2013 10:26 |
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AlphaDog posted:You're right, so I got a replacement instead of a refund, because I like the mouse when it's not broken. If you live in Australia you have no possible reason to be contacting a manufacturer's support. If a product fails in an unreasonably short period of time, you return it to the store you bought it from and they are legally obligated to give you a refund. I did this for a graphics card that failed: I bought a radeon 5970 in 2010 for $700, it failed in 2012, so I took it back to the store, got my $700 back, and then spent $500 at the same store to buy a gtx680.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2013 02:02 |
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I think some people just have an unreasonable expectation for how long a thing you pay $50 for should last. 3 years is a long time, I'd be very happy for a mouse to last that long. We live in an age of planned obsolescence, where we toss out our phones every 2 years, hell, my current PC is 3.5 years old, and thats the oldest PC I've ever owned - I plan to replace it before it hits 4 and I can't imagine keeping the same PC for longer than that. If my mouse kept dying after 6 months, I'd be pissed off, but as long as I get 2 or 3 years out of it, I'm pretty happy.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2013 13:46 |
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dusty posted:Over here the Logitech distributor prices their stuff 2-6 times higher than US pricing. How long should a $300 mouse last? Cause I paid more than that for my mx700 and it was fabulous value for money. I'd say 3 years is a reasonable time for a mouse to last, even if you paid 300 dollars for it. (Don't buy a 300 dollar mouse). Maybe consider one of corsair's keyboards? They look really nice.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2013 15:21 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 15:37 |
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[quote=""Lanky Coconut Tree"" post=""422352318""] My Razer is having loving tracking issues and it hasn't even been 1 year since I got this. Is the Func MS3 the only mouse which has those two ring and pinky rests? I want a mouse that has that, but I can't get it over here in Asia. [/quote] Mionix mice do this too, although not quite as pronounced.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2013 05:17 |