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Saab thread, a guy wants to trade me a 1994 Saab 9000 Aero for my rather janky Datsun 280ZX (runs kind of poorly, probably needs a new diff too). I haven't driven it. It looks acceptable in the pictures. He says "oil is leaking slowly through one of the exhaust manifold bolts and the fuel pump checkball has failed, so it takes a second to fill the fuel system before it turns over." but also "new performance clutch, new CV's, new water pump, new radiation, new clutch master & slave, valve surfaces cleaned up". Says he's not really into Saabs and wants a Datsun instead. I know gently caress-all about Saabs but if I can't get cash for the 280ZX I'm considering taking the trade, driving it for a little while, and then trying to sell it. I'm only asking $1k for the Datsun so I wouldn't have to get much out of it. Given that oil leak, though, should I run far far away and never look back?
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If the leak is just a weep I wouldn't worry about it. Finding any car of that age in that price range without a small leak is pretty rare in my experience.
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Jun 28, 2018 18:10
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Old Binsby posted:e. last last question That came with the 900 "NG", so from 1994 on. It was also in the 9-5, but not in the 9000. E: Pham Nuwen posted:"oil is leaking slowly through one of the exhaust manifold bolts" If it only appears to be coming "through a bolt", it has to be oil from somewhere else that just happens to be passing by, and if that's the case it cannot really be that bad. Can't think of anything that could leak above the exhaust manifold except the valve cover gasket, which is cheap and simple to fix. Though on Saabs, especially turbo ones, almost any oil-related problem can be blamed on the PCV, so if the leak annoys you just replace that first. If you want to get rid of the Datsun anyway, and a Saab appeals to you and seems to run, do it. ionn fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jun 28, 2018 |
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Jun 28, 2018 18:36
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Old Binsby posted:
I had a 1999 9-3 Convertible, so maybe not the best frame of reference. Mechanically it seemed ok. I didn't have any drive train reliability concerns although the manual transmission was crunchy as hell. I suspect the syncro was shot. The only way to guarantee smooth shifting into 3rd was to double clutch. I have a hunch the 900s would probably hold together better. Structurally, it felt like someone chopped apart a hatchback with a Sawzall with zero fucks given to structural integrity. I suspect the non-convertibles are much more solid. My personal hunch about the values, is that the 900s go for more has as much to do with them being the last "real" Saab before GM got involved whereas the 9-3 was the first with GM's involvement, in addition to being built better. My 1999 still had enough WTF weirdness, I'd say it held on to plenty of the Saab uniqueness (the way the suspension was put together made it a pain to work on, at least for me). There were definitely a lot of bits GM seemed to cheap out on (HVAC control rod comes to mind). I donated that one and bought a 2005 9-3 Linear sedan to replace it. That one is even less Saab-ish, but for me, it has been reliable and fun. Also, at $2,400 for a single owner example with 95,000 miles on the odo and a manual, I couldn't say no.
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Jul 11, 2018 14:12
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Man oh Man oh Man. Whilst scheduling an oil change with the Saab guys, I mentioned that I was still having hesitation and bad mileage but no CEL. Had replaced MAF, DIC, plugs, no real improvement. ~18mpg for last year. He suggested I get the Catalytic Converter checked for backpressure. Sure enough it needs replacing. It's getting replaced now and potentially my year and a half of driving with a problem will be over! BTW, ~$475 acceptable for decent (looking) shop doing it? Buds Muffler 10th & Santa Fe
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Jul 16, 2018 21:25
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Runs way better now, will see if it holds up over a tank of gas. Went from 17.6 mpg to 22 so that is about right.
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Jul 19, 2018 20:08
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Finally took some time to look and dig into why my cruise control would turn on but not set. Turns out the car is straight up missing the clutch pedal return spring:  The clutch itself has no issue pushing the pedal back out, just not enough to fully depress the clutch position switch. If I pull the pedal up, I can set the cruise, so yay! New spring and clip on the way for $40.
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Jul 24, 2018 14:24
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Oil change, new rotors & pads on back. $366 Only thing not working is cruise control now. Automatic trans so I"m guessing the clutch pedal return spring is not going to be the issue.
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Jul 27, 2018 14:43
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Think I'm gonna detail the STX up and take it to Cruisin' the Coast this year. WIth one of those kinda-for-sale-what-the-hell-worth-a-shot signs. I'm fine owning it for several years, I'm fine selling it if someone bites at 15k and getting a ride home. The more I see listed, the more I think I got away cheap buying mine for 10k. If I see the unicorn (manual wagon) ever come up for sale at a non-stupid price, I'd buy it even before I sell this one.
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Jul 28, 2018 02:47
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Old Binsby posted:I like Saabs, they look nice but not flashy, are comfortable on long distance hauls yet somehow also quite affordable around here (w. europe) on the used market, especially compared to the German mid-to-high-end segment. I guess the Saab automobile bankruptcies have something to do with that much in the same way Rover prices tanked when that brand went under. I'd rather have '900' than '75' on the back of my car though. So they look good, but I learned to love them driving long distance in most of the 90s models over the years due to another Saab-nut friend. They were all very comfortable down long stretches of autobahn, which is mainly what I'll be using a car for. Honorable mention for the 9000 that had the most spacious back seats I've sat in ever until someone offers me a ride in an audi a8L or a drat maybach or something. The dedicated black panel button is just the coolest thing I've owned 99's, c900's and every era of GM/ng900, early 9-3, later 9-3. The classic 900 is a completely different car to the ng900 and later. They are nothing like each other to drive. They are only the same in engine and in dashboard layout and in being Saab's. If you want a early 900 turbo then do not buy an ng900/9-3. They made the c900 up till 1993/94 so you can go a bit later in your searching.
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Jul 28, 2018 15:01
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Tomarse posted:I've owned 99's, c900's and every era of GM/ng900, early 9-3, later 9-3. thanks, that’s a question i still had. I won’t be passing up the opportunity to try one in that case, I’ve only driven the ng900 and later models. The question is kind of moot at least until the other 80s beauty (a mk 1 Espace) I stumbled upon in the mean time falls apart, although that moment is not exactly decades away. It was awesome for holiday purposes but it’s proving quite the training ground for practicing basic and advanced failures and maintenance, as documented in the AI stupid questions thread  All good fun though and if nothing else comes of that it’s at least beaten the 9000 hands down in rear leg room by a decent margin
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Jul 28, 2018 19:10
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Turbo X being parted out. https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/pts/d/parting-out-2008-saab-9-3/6679791744.html
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Sep 11, 2018 01:57
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Shittiest Saab job ever: When the seals in the clutch slave cylinder on your 99 fail and you have to gently caress about with big screwdrivers/crowbars slowly turning over the ending and working round every finger on the clutch and moving it enough to wedge the clutch spacer ring in so you can get the slave cylinder out past them. Photo also taken pre-draining the coolant and removing the radiator in order to pull the clutch shaft out in order to get the slave cylinder over it.. 
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Oct 26, 2018 00:37
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Doug DeMuro rented (?!) a last-gen Saab 9-5. Basically, "meh". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj2DtHCCa0c
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Nov 8, 2018 03:00
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GD_American posted:Doug DeMuro rented (?!) a last-gen Saab 9-5. Basically, "meh". Yeah, looks okay, nothing offensive surprised it didn't sell......how much????? $47,900
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Nov 8, 2018 10:19
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Donate to my Kickstarter https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...ickType=listing
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I had had a power steering leak from the banjo bolt on the power steering pressure hose on my 2005 Saab 9-3 Linear. Tightening it down seemed to resolve the leak, but I noticed after a little bit when I checked the fluid level, that the CHF11 fluid was decidedly not clear. I figured the PS pump seal or gasket might be to blame. There also seemed to be plenty of oil coating the drivers side of the engine and suspected with a small oil leak from the PS pump or the other likely culprit, the brake boost vacuum pump. I figured I would replace the seal and gaskets on both. Fluid looking not so hot:  Pump and reservoir off and drained, here is the CHF11 that came out of it:  Oil does seem to have gotten behind the seal:  The old gasket also had a weird indentation in it:  I also broke one of the fittings on the coolant reservoir thanks to the brittle plastic:  The gasket for the brake vacuum pump wasn't broken when I took it out, but it was definitely brittle:  Other than a bit of spilled oil and power steering fluid, those two jobs were pretty straight forward. I replaced the thermostat while I had those bits off and decent accessibility along with a new throttle body to hopefully resolve a ECU TPS code that periodically has been getting thrown.
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Feb 25, 2019 22:28
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nadmonk posted:I had had a power steering leak from the banjo bolt on the power steering pressure hose on my 2005 Saab 9-3 Linear. How much did a new reservoir cost?
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Feb 26, 2019 01:36
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GD_American posted:How much did a new reservoir cost? It wasn't bad, only $61 at Auto Zone for a Dorman, they actually had it in stock too.
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Feb 26, 2019 02:37
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I replaced that PS pump seal on my in-laws' 9-3 a couple of years back, it seems a common failure. IIRC engine oil was getting into the PS system causing the reservoir to overflow. It took a few half liter bottles to flush out all the oil and get a pure-ish PS fluid remaining. That car has had all sorts of issues since then, but not steering related thankfully.
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Feb 26, 2019 10:06
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Invalido posted:I replaced that PS pump seal on my in-laws' 9-3 a couple of years back, it seems a common failure. IIRC engine oil was getting into the PS system causing the reservoir to overflow. It took a few half liter bottles to flush out all the oil and get a pure-ish PS fluid remaining. That's good to hear it didn't come back. It seems like it was a pretty common problem.
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Feb 26, 2019 12:20
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Ahh the sweet hint of dex cool in the AC on a warm afternoon. Ooh the coolant low light! Oops, the slippery stain in the garage. Phew! Walking home from the car shop. Whoosh! Goes the money! Heater control valve (#2, first was under warranty years ago), and hoses. $1000, so ytd $3300.
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Apr 18, 2019 23:52
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A thousand for that? I’m assuming with labor then?
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Apr 19, 2019 16:33
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Oh yes definitely with labor. Maybe even dropping my car off back at my house. (If they don’t charge for that) Only. Thing wrong left on car is 1) cruise control dies not do anything (lights come on, but will not hold/accelerate speed) 2) rear washer nozzle disappeared, housing still there so water dribbles onto rear glass 3) side view mirrors are turning dark blue on glass at bottom 4) subwoofer occasionally makes static noises Any hints / tips fir these ills?
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Apr 19, 2019 16:42
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Cruise is most likely brake/clutch pedal switches. https://www.thesaabsite.com/faqs/9-5%20(9600)/FAQs.html#CRUISE_CATEGORY_-_Cruise_Control_Failures The NG900 had a test sequence you could activate by going through the cruise functions in a certain order, but no idea if that exists for your 9-5.
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Apr 20, 2019 01:59
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Throwing around 1k here and there, because weird Swedish car with odd things that need repairs, when the value of the vehicle is less than 5k which is why a Saab is the worst car to own if you're not up to doing the repairs yourself.some_admin posted:Any hints / tips fir these ills? What year/model? keykey fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Apr 20, 2019 |
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Apr 20, 2019 17:48
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My biggest worry are what would have been dealer level repairs (Tech II stuff). For instance, the ignition switch module is throwing errors and making it hard to get out of Park. I’m eventually gonna pull it out and look for loose contacts, but if it needs a new (300 dollar) one, the closest shop that might be able to do it is 3 hours away.
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Apr 20, 2019 18:36
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GD_American posted:My biggest worry are what would have been dealer level repairs (Tech II stuff). For instance, the ignition switch module is throwing errors and making it hard to get out of Park. I’m eventually gonna pull it out and look for loose contacts, but if it needs a new (300 dollar) one, the closest shop that might be able to do it is 3 hours away. You can always just go to a GM dealer for Saab tech 2 programming ... Unless that’s the closest one that’s 3 hours away. 
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Apr 20, 2019 20:24
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keykey posted:Throwing around 1k here and there, because weird Swedish car with odd things that need repairs, when the value of the vehicle is less than 5k which is why a Saab is the worst car to own if you're not up to doing the repairs yourself. 2008 9-5 Combi 2.3T I only do the work myself if it’s duper basic. Lol
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Apr 20, 2019 22:16
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keykey posted:You can always just go to a GM dealer for Saab tech 2 programming ... Unless that’s the closest one that’s 3 hours away. Tried, the Chevy places here won’t touch it.
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some_admin posted:Any hints / tips fir these ills? As much as I hate other online manufacture specific car forums, I’d highly suggest Saab Central. That forum is a wealth of knowledge and it looks like your questions have been answered in one form or another. They’re not nearly as toxic a forum as other specific manufacturer forums. GD_American posted:Tried, the Chevy places here won’t touch it. Weird. I suppose an alternate route would be fishing eBay for a tech 2 and TIS2000 software. keykey fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Apr 22, 2019 |
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Man, my tires are shot. Well, that's about 500 bucks. You know, I'd love to finally cure this curb rash that came with the car. Cool, there's a guy who quoted me 500 bucks to fix them. Uh-oh- looks like that rear shock is broke. Well, we knew this day would come eventually. Nivomat Day. There goes 1100 bucks. poo poo. Front shocks don't look that great either. There's about 400 bucks, might as well get the Bilstein B6s while I'm at it. Goddamn. Look at the lip on those rotors. And they had been shuddering so I know one of them's warped. Hell, these look like the original rotors. Might as well swap them and pads at the same time. Oh, thank god. That's only another 400 bucks. Torn CV boot slinging grease and you can't replace it without replacing the entire halfshaft assembly? Welp, that's 450. I am going to be so pissed when someone hits this car and totals it 2 weeks later.
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FYI in case any of you had Turbo X dreams- the rear springs are not in stock anywhere. In the world. Yes, I checked. On three continents.
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GD_American posted:FYI in case any of you had Turbo X dreams- the rear springs are not in stock anywhere. In the world. Yes, I checked. On three continents. That sucks. I thought I'd try to help out with some googling in swedish, but that didn't turn up anything OEM. However, when I checked the nationwide junkyard network (https://www.bildelsbasen.se) and input a number plate from what I think is a suitable 9-3 xwd aero (is that even the right car?) I found using image google, a bunch of rear springs from disassembled cars turned up. Unfortunately I can't seem to post working links to that site, but it should be possible to navigate it using auto translate and the images. edit: the site has a british flag that turns some of it into english, but it's not great, lots of swedish remains. Do these look right or did I mess up?  
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Jun 13, 2019 15:52
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Invalido posted:That sucks. I thought I'd try to help out with some googling in swedish, but that didn't turn up anything OEM. However, when I checked the nationwide junkyard network (https://www.bildelsbasen.se) and input a number plate from what I think is a suitable 9-3 xwd aero (is that even the right car?) I found using image google, a bunch of rear springs from disassembled cars turned up. Unfortunately I can't seem to post working links to that site, but it should be possible to navigate it using auto translate and the images. I can get junkyard springs, but they’re a dice roll. I don’t know if they’ll be in any better shape than mine (which aren’t broke, but do have 130k miles on them). I put my info in one of those part finders for junkyards and I poo poo you not, within 20 seconds my phone rang, and places across the country are blowing up my phone. Appreciate you looking tho 
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Jun 13, 2019 16:30
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GD_American posted:FYI in case any of you had Turbo X dreams- the rear springs are not in stock anywhere. In the world. Yes, I checked. On three continents. . Dwindling NOS supply is scary. When I saw that my NG 9-5's 3rd brake light LED bar was futzing out, I hunted all over for it, and ordered what I hoped was the right unit from some German only parts site. Ended up being correct.At least there's a cottage industry for remanning LED bars for various GM cars of that era.
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Yeah I almost bought an NG 9-5 but the unicorn factor scared the poo poo out of me. Maybe as a 3rd car, but not a DD with monthly payments
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Jun 13, 2019 16:38
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GD_American posted:I can get junkyard springs, but they’re a dice roll. I don’t know if they’ll be in any better shape than mine (which aren’t broke, but do have 130k miles on them). I hear ya. JY parts are perfectly fine for certain things, less so for other things. I got home from work and searched some more, might could be there are new springs to be had after all. Do you know the parts number you're looking for?
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Invalido posted:I hear ya. JY parts are perfectly fine for certain things, less so for other things. I got home from work and searched some more, might could be there are new springs to be had after all. Do you know the parts number you're looking for? 12783539 God I’d be so grateful
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These guys seem to have what you're looking for (or at least they claim they can get it from somewhere else and sell it on, accepting no returns because of this) https://shop.speedparts.se/en/prod/saab-oem/bakfjader-13.html Unless they're full of poo poo they should be able to ship two springs to the U.S. for $235 or thereabout - shipping alone is about a hundred. There's a bunch of non-genuine SUPLEX brand springs for cheaper from the usual German getting places, but I guess you don't want those.
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