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plogo
Jan 20, 2009


That's a cool mix, but it seems weird to call it funky house, cause that's just what house was like back then in ny.

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plogo
Jan 20, 2009


phractured posted:

There is no good electronic music in Chicago coming up. God damnit.

When you say coming up do you mean this weekend or something? There's loads of stuff in Chicago.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


incoherent posted:


e: is this that house "house" I've heard so much about?

Naw its progressive house, tho i bet some progressive house elitists or whatever would try to dissociate themselves from it.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


No way there is tons of that stuff but it all sounds generic so i can't force my way through it. Check out z-records or the disco house sections on beatport or something.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


zerojake posted:

, no producer has enough good tracks to merit listening to them for two hours straight.

A lot of producers that have been active for a long time have extensive discographies and some are known for doing sets entirely of their own material. In most cases I would prefer to hear a set showcasing many artists, but its far from unheard of.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


This is probably my favorite track that sampled disco from 2010. A little more traditional/deep house than most of the stuff in this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry0dHsva4f4

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


I'm gonna assume you mean the more strict definition of techno- if you have any questions about other edm in ny i can share my thoughts on that as well. If you take a look at resident advisor they will have most of the more high profile events. I prefer the more manic 90s techno and don't really go to techno events that often (I prefer hip hop/house/disco/funk/and such) but I enjoy keeping tabs on what is going on and what sort of music is growing in NY so take all this with my biases in mind.

A few parties that caught my eye on RA over the next couple weeks are Dan Bell, Ben Klock and some other berghain type djs, Derrick May + Carl Craig, Jeff Mills, Oliver Ho, some djs from Droid Behavior, Laurent Garnier and Josh Wink. You can go to techno parties at a variety of venues. Dance club venues such as good units, district 36, sullivan room, and cielo are in manhatten and have a lot of the big name guests, but are somewhat of a dying breed and people like to wax poetic over the hedonism of the sound factory and twilo that Giuliani shut down. Smaller venues in like public assembly in williamsburg (see the bunker parties) or national underground in the les tend to bring in less well known names but have a more relaxed vibe. Then, promoters like black market membership and others also throw stuff in warehouses/lofts etc sometimes. Also the rave scene has techno djs sometimes if you can stand a bunch of 16 year olds rolling. Last call is at 4am but clubs will regularly play till 5 or 6 and many spots will do afterhours well into the next day.

There are a lot of complaints that can be made of the techno scene: of the venues i mentioned only cielo and district 36 (which quite possibly will not last) can be said to have top class soundsystems but are expensive and quite strict in many ways. The crowds at the bunker parties(which tends to have the techno djs i'm most interested in) are less energetic than I've come to expect from hiphop/disco/soul/house parties in ny(although I've never stayed for the afterhours at bunker) There can be too many/too few/the wrong kind/ of drugs depending on what you are into. Too much scarf techno not enough detroit stuff/ too many old djs not enough new djs/nerdy crowds/ etc etc. However, despite the complaints I think if you have a genuine enjoyment of techno ny is probably one of the better cities in the US and there is plenty of stuff to do, and as far as the overall music scene NY is pretty amazing.

Don't go to terminal 5 for techno or anything really.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


infinity2005 posted:

Why do they though, i really don't get it? It sounds associated happy hardcore (obviously), but there hasn't been any of the old style of happy hardcore released for over 10 years. And the specific craze of childish tracks like Hixxy & Sharkey - Toytown was extremely short-lived all the way back in 1996, all the clones of it got annoying very quickly as you'd imagine. There was no weird subculture related to it here either.

Some of the stuff is happy hardcore inspired I guess, but weird rave outfits / candy have been a part of the east coast scene since at the least the nasa parties in the early 90s, and that culture has persisted for reasons I'm not sure I understand. I'm not entirely sure what happens on the west coast, but east coast raves tend to have tons of hardcore djs.

zerojake posted:


Even the actual illegal warehouse parties that still happen here, nobody would call them raves because of the unfashionable associations.

There are still self identified raves here with ravers on a weekly basis, though yes, it is smaller culture than the west coast.

plogo fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Feb 8, 2011

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


acid is still somewhat popular and it rules.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Law posted:

So I posted a few days ago in the recommendation thread but I didn't get much of a response. I am completely new to anything that wasn't made 40 or so years ago, but I've recently fallen in love with Daft Punk and I need more, what are the absolute must have albums? I've already listened to Cross but that's about it.

You can check out their essential mix for some of their club oriented influences: http://www.mixesdb.com/db/index.php...-_Essential_Mix

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Crazy C posted:

Can anyone recommend some decent or their favourite minimal techno producers?

Robert Hood

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Vernacular posted:

Marco Carola released an album on Minus a few months back that's pretty good

http://www.bleep43.com/bleep43/2011...l?currentPage=3

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


http://www.beatsinspace.net/playlists/567

this kim ann foxman (of hercules and love affair) rules. classic house vibes

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


There is the phiz thread but it has its own idiosyncrasies http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=2884428

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


K-Flow posted:

I've just recently found out the type of house I've liked all these years is called deep house or at least I think. I'm really into the jazz influenced stuff. I like the portion of 3:00 to 4:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMWqvYI7VIY and I like a lot of real chill house stuff on gran turismo 5. So could someone correct me if I am wrong in classifying the genre and if not, recommend me some essential deep house music. Thank you!

Yeah deep house is the best house. It has a number of colloquial definitions be forewarned, there are many disparate songs that could be considered deep house. Disco is often a big component and what you posted had a significant disco sampling heritage as a component that is often present in deep house. Sounds like the track you posted is from moodymann or one of the artists with his label mahogany or one of the other detroit house producers. One of his long time collaborator's theo parrish is one of my contenders for best dj if you can see him live.

Here are a few examples of different types of songs that might be considered deep house to demonstrate the breadth of the genre:

E.S.P. - It's You old school from chicago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd-hcat6ARw

Todd Terry presents: House Of Gypsies feat. Al Wise - Another Worry-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBaONmV35y0

This is moodymann's most famous song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyuBoSh_yWY

SOmething from moodymann a little more like in the op: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa8Hef6gJiE

Here are a couple tracks from motor city drum ensemble from berlin that I also feel fit the bill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjgsqXp3meg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WebcHqVjnis

From the 80s you could have guys like blaze as the sound was closer to disco. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDsAFNRaqs0

Then I guess someone figured out that stuff like this sounds really good at 5am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFo9a2-FnM4

And on occasion some of these songs become part of the wider edm scene. For example, check out the prevalence of kenny dixon jr (moodymann) related stuff on their essential mix from the 90s. Other songs fulfil a more big room sound aesthetic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNXXYWUfZjY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XdhZEj2dng

Personally I like the 90s vocal jams the most http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esZGqaDb9ps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99jHPfkZX3Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbowsn4T4OA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWqlUk9ZUTA, which have some contemporary analogs but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9GR53047J4, http://clone.nl/item16772.html theres a huge variety of different deep house sub and related genres many of which were not mentioned here.

HEre's an example of one of the many deep house mini scenes in New York and around the world. A mix of pratt students and ppl from bed stuy go to these parties.

http://www.ustem.org/dopejams/index...nth=03&module=1

plogo fucked around with this message at 19:52 on May 20, 2011

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


These are pretty good and bear in mind that I had negative preconceptions of you b/c of the whole daft punk doll thing.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Well in a case like electric zoo, I think the shift in tone of the lineups and advertising over the past few years can be attributed to much of the change in composition of the crowd. It's a conscious decision by the promoters who they book obviously, and in the case of a festival in new york virtually any combination of djs can be assembled with a variety of different fanbases. If you look at this years lineup Victor Calderone is the only ny dj with a residency playing (I think) and he's a natural fit for a more european/suburban crowd. However, that being said electric zoo is only a minor part of the ny club scene and I would hardly say it has any influence in crowding out the sort of events I am more amiable to. If you are worried about the crowd and music and electric zoo, you can find a subscene for any music you want in new york.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Firaga posted:

"Throw your own party" gets thrown (haha) around a lot.
It's really hard to plan an event for a city that only listens to one type of music, or somebody has a monopoly on another type.
At the same time though I think a lot of promoters and djs are inept and have a lovely taste in music so that can have something to do with it! Oh well, if only I had a crew, about 5k down and a shitload of equipment.


I agree that saying "throw your own party" isn't really particularly useful advice, I also think, based on what you said, that you are overestimating the difficulty of starting your own events. You definitely do not need 5 grand, and as for equipment venues have their own sound (and probably some combination of cdjs/turntables/mixers/etc), and at a bare minimum you just need a laptop and a mixer.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


fruitpunch posted:

http://soundcloud.com/over-the-top-...r-the-top-remix


So I'm really starting to get into Nu-Disco, or whatever you wanna call it. I'm mainly listening to Russ Chimes, Madeon, and some Treasure Fingers and Grum remixes, what else should I be listening to?

listen to real disco as well!

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


A little bit old, but this is what house is about to me. Not a retro jam per say, but the old school influence is up front. In New York at least, the continuing hipster retro house fad couldn't be better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rM_O1aftso

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Thanks, that's exactly my sort of thing. As I alluded above, over the past 5 or 6 six years in NY I feel the various "classic house" and disco genres having been quite healthy and is one of the more exciting contemporary music movements.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


3 Hour set of a couple of Berghain djs playing house in San Francisco.

http://honeypotcast.blogspot.com/20...e-at-honey.html

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Stuntastic posted:

Lmao this ferry to electric zoo might as well be named the HMS Douchelord

In fairness, what did you expect?

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Tutu posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D2nfwPk6Ow

Anyone listened to Andres III? It is soooo good, it's like everything I want from house.

I have only listened to samples, which I enjoyed, and I loved andres II. You might like this dj nature 12" https://dopejams.pinnaclecart.com/v...e-golf-channel/

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Nice blend of contemporary and classic house in this mix http://soundcloud.com/vin-sol/wizard-h-o-u-s-e-4

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


skram posted:

Maybe I can get this question answered here.

I am looking for a NYC electronic/house club. I believe it is a "members" only type of thing, where you have to provide them with your email for invites.

I think the name of it is something along the lines of "Black Maret" or something, I may be reallly off. Thanks!

http://blkmarketmembership.com/

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Pacra posted:

Did you bother observing some of Caravan Palace's live shows? On many occasions in their songs, they create the scat/lyrics themselves and play it back/sing it in a way evocative of sampling.

like so:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dm6DzM7rNE

Regardless, some samples dictate a whole song in a bunch of genres. Take almost any DJ Premier instrumental, it will be variations on a 4-bar sample. Take any Daft Punk track off Discovery, it'll probably be built on one fundamental 70s funk/jazz fusion riff.

Yeah, most of my favorite genres are based around sampling.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Oh cool that has the new storm queen song, I'm excited to hear that. I loved Look Right Through. Metro Area is djing tuesday with dam funk and dj spinna on Tuesday but I'll be missing that

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


a milk crime posted:

I'm a big fan of Omar-S, Green Velvet (Cajmere), Metro Area, so I'll have to see if it's any good.

Also if you don't like vocals in your dance tracks, that's sad. Good luck trying to get girls to dance to songs with no vocals. It's so much harder.

You might like this mix then, http://www.legendarychildren.co.uk/?p=3115, a variety of classics and new retro leaning songs.

DJ Nature - Celebrate Your Life
Catz N Dogz - Excape From The Zoo (Carl Craig remix)
Paul Bennett - Heavy Red
FCL - Letís Go
Virgo Four - Itís A Crime (Caribou remix)
Brawther - Ron & Chez D's Kms54
Precious System - Voice From Planet Love
Romathony - The Wanderer (CD Remix #9)
Milton Jackson - Dimensional (Romanthony's Romix)
The Gathering - In My System
Ron Trent - Pop, Dip and Spin
Storm Queen - Look Right Through (dub)
Freedom - Closer (Late Night Blast mix)

plogo fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Oct 23, 2011

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


You also might enjoy the earlier generation of minimal with people like Dan Bell and Robert Hood.

http://www.mixesdb.com/db/index.php...ory:Robert_Hood

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Firaga posted:

Saw Prosumer last night in a super intimate venue (100~) people. I have nothing but great things to say about this night, he brought several record crates and played a full vinyl set. It was a lot of fun seeing him get really into his music and sing along with all the vocal tracks. It was pretty much a straight old school house set.
Our older local house DJs used to spin stuff like that but they are all on the deep house kick right now and I miss my upbeat jacking house music, it was a real treat. One of those nights where you come in and next thing you know its already 5 AM.
Hopefully we get more P-bar djs here because drat I want more now.

That rules, I've seen a few critiques on how the renewed interest in classic house is problematic in some ways, but I think that turn has been extremely beneficial over the past few years in New York. I resent to some extent how deep house has been appropriated to mean extremely boring house as opposed to the strands popularized at the shelter and sound factory in the 90s in new york.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


infinity2005 posted:

28 Gun Bad Boy your point is pretty much the same as what i've been saying.. there's no lasting scene of any of this. Electro and dubstep are novelties whereas the labels, clubs/events and most of the artists will be over here and Europe. Where's the chicago house or detroit techno 'scene' today..

I dunno I think the chicago house pitchfork/internet revival has been quite salutary. The revival of retro house has had quite a few grassroots events in ny. To give two examples, take Let's Play House and Dope Jam's monthly parties. Let's play house started a few years ago and has moved since from warehouse parties to to spots in the manhatten playing stuff like this http://soundcloud.com/lebain_thesta...ith-tiago-love. Dope Jam's, on the other hand, coverts their record store in brooklyn monthly and plays sets like this http://www.dopejams.net/112311.html

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Hijinkz posted:

Got a question for you NYC folks: what are some good house clubs that real house dancers actually hang around at? Where can I see dudes like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0082cyEFEMk

The funk box at the sullivan room on Sundays is promoted towards the younger generation of house dancers. There are a ton of youtube videos for it. In a similar vein, the Shelter on Sunday afternoons historically has had really good dancers and a welcoming crowd, although I haven't been to the latest incarnation that has started up a few months ago. Here's an article on the shelter (although be forewarned things have changed a lot since this was written!): http://www.djhistory.com/features/gimme-shelter-2007-0 . If you like the jus-ed etc type of house that crew's clubhouse parties often have good dancers. But really, there are talented dancers at all sorts of events.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Will it spoil me posted:

Anyone know any record stores in NYC that sell house music records?

Dope Jams and Halcyon.

http://halcyonline.com/

https://dopejams.pinnaclecart.com/

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Dope Jams did a mix for fact. One of the better places to go dancing in NY in my opinion.


http://www.factmag.com/2012/10/15/f...-slow-to-speak/

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


A lot of the early chicago house vocalists came from a gospel background, so I think the gospel comparison is fair, but that would be only one strand of the many Chicago house sounds. I also feel that sorta vocal style is represented well in the new jersey garage stuff and various other places.

I would also agree that derek carter is a quintessential chicago dj, but the mid 90s chicago sound is a bit different from the 80s days of Marshall Jefferson, Larry Heard, Mike Dunn, Jamie Principle etc.

I think the best way to get a feel for the distinctions is to listen to the works of a few of the bigger names from the various cities and some contemporary mixes to see what kinda songs and dj styles were tossing around rather than trying to fit a rigid category scheme as there is a lot of interplay between the various scenes. For example, loose joints - all over your face is one of the biggest chicago songs of all time amongst chicago house djs, but it was from Arthur Russell a prominent ny scenster. Or, take someone like DJ Pierre. He helped pioneer the acid sound in chicago, but then moved to New York and started the legendary wild pitch parties. Did his house become New York house when he moved? Something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkURbwQ7fjE could very well be associated with the Sound Factory or runways or parties like wild pitch, that someone in New York would identify with closely, but surely it owes a lot to his past in Chicago as well (and I presume it got plenty of play there as well.) Or, take the Detroit house classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFo9a2-FnM4 morning factory. As the name suggests, it was designed for play in the Sound Factory in New York. I think most people upon listening to this would hear Ron Trent and Chez Damier's touch, but it's detroit house made with new york in mind.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Bouchacha posted:

I'm already putting together my set list for our NYE party and really would love some downright obscene and explicit dance music. People go crazy when I play Avenue D - 2D2F, and I just ran across a potentially great remix of Lady - (dat pussy be) Yankin'. Of course I'll also be playing some Big Freedia, but are there any other good leads? Especially along the electrohouse or French house genre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMInsj6Agp4 and like a billion other records on dancemania

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


Tactical Grace posted:

Hey guys. Thanks for all the great music some of you have put me on to. I really need to find out this song but i have very little to go on. It has a female vocal going "da da deee da da dum, da da dee da da dum" repeatedly and it sounds really like this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sNyLMcYgTLQ

That's all I got. It may have been posted in here not that long ago even but I've lost it and I'm going mad trying to remember.

is it gypsy woman?

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


^ Here's a response song that's also cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXSENN3UlnQ

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plogo
Jan 20, 2009


There is also some juke talk in entertainment weakly: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3500660

In other news I've been feeling some edits that give sorta a more subtle housey feel to the tracks as opposed to disco house french filter style that y'all were posting earlier:

First Choice - Love Thang (Genius of Time edit) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_9Sd-K3kDI
Avalon Emerson - Caroline https://soundcloud.com/avalonemerson/caroline
Late Nite Tuff Guy - I Don't Like Acid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXeI47aVwY0

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