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Who Killed WCW?
Eric Bischoff
Hulk Hogan
Vince Russo
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triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I liked David Arquette as champion because after he turned heel he went all out with the ridiculous clothes and super annoying persona. At that point I had completely given up on WCW as a serious company, so them doing train wreck poo poo like that was enough to make me tune in.

Russo manipulated me like a puppet :(

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triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I was watching a Nitro from 2001, and there was a scene where DDP was signing copies of his book for fans. I am pretty sure AJ Styles was an extra in the scene, playing a dude WAY too excited to see DDP. It was pretty hilarious

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
God I'm posting a lot about Russo. But anyway he says his justification for putting the belt on Arquette was that the title meant poo poo at the time, so who cares. The company was in the shitter and he needed to do something to get people talking about WCW again. Something to make the company worth talking about, like the WWF. So he put the title on Arquette.

It got WCW a lot of mainstream press actually, like mentions on entertainment shows. Courtney Cox even shot some sort of big promo video with David on another show with the belt, for free.

He says that even today he'd do it again, because look at us, we're still talking about that one WCW title change 10 years later. Of course we also talk about other horrible things today, it doesn't mean they were good ideas.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Major Stash haha

I loved the MIA vs Team Canada feud, one of my favourite WCW storylines.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
If you click the WCW button you get re-routed to wwe.com :(

This made me realise that I wish WWE would keep wcw.com up, and fill it full of info about the company. Use it like an encyclopedia to WCW. Of course this wouldn't really help them in any way, but it would be nice.

Edit: Haha in one of the videos at first listen it sounded like "STING SHOWED UP TO GET A FEW DICKS IN"

triplexpac fucked around with this message at 17:56 on May 31, 2010

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

DangerDummy! posted:

Schiavone reacted to people (well, Mexican wrestlers anyway) getting cranked in a match like my three year old does. The casual racism of the WCW commentary crew was always equal parts awful and hilarious. Like when Heenan would sometimes say I SMELL SALSA! when a mexican wrestler got smashed.

HITTIN HIM LIKE A PINATA TONY

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I just bid $5 on ebay for an autographed photo of Glacier. I'm sure it's fake, but it's still real to me dammit.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Mr. Carlisle posted:

I'm still mad that I was too late to bid on that autographed Norman Smiley trading card that went for like 2 bucks.

I would buy so much stupid poo poo like that off ebay, if they didn't charge $10+ shipping on everything.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Speaking of ebay, some guy is selling treasures like WCW Slamboree 2000 on VHS for $143.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Lamuella posted:

I really hope you missed a decimal point there.

Didn't miss a decimal point.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I actually loved that very last Nitro set, just because it was so basic. Raw was in the process of adding more and more bits to their set, so I liked the stripped down Nitro version.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Yeah I was a huge Raven mark when he was in WCW.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Raven did a lot better than Hardcore Hak.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

The Wise Teen posted:

You had to rename the characters though to maximize the joy of WCW/NWO Revenge. I'll never forget "Goldturd," "Eric Bitchoff" and Konnan as "Panty Hose Face."

This is a shared experience by anyone growing up playing these games, I guess. I can't remember all the names we made up, but a lot of them are offensive looking back on it :ohdear:

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Being able to rip off cruiserweights masks was great.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I was really excited for Mayhem. FINALLY, a wrestling game made by the BEST sports game company on the planet! How could this fail?!

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Taking control of managers on Revenge was also a neat little secret.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Revenge had a bunch of reversals & moves that weren't in the other games as well. They had that wacky ninja combo thing that certain guys could do, I remember that one for sure.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
People say Eric had one good idea, but holding off Sting & Hogan was really well done. It showed patience you don't see anymore. Not sure how much of that was him, but since he was in charge at the time I assume he could have made the match happen whenever he wanted.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Yeah Meltzer said pretty much the same thing on a podcast a little while ago. He heard about the storyline ahead of time and thought it sounded good, on paper there was no reason to think otherwise. No one could have imagined they would have booked the match in that lovely way.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Q_res posted:

If memory serves, and correct me if I wrong, Taker couldn't work for poo poo in 95.

Still would have been better than Mabel.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

bobkatt013 posted:

That reminds me of a classic quote from that fat piece of poo poo Scott Kieth

To be fair, Undertaker really was insufferable for the first long while of his Biker gimmick. At least I remember hating his stuff with a passion back then. Maybe not to Scott Keith levels, though.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Don't tell that to Tyler Black: http://www.fcwwrestling.info/sethrollins11.html

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I know it would never happen today, but I miss all those wacky modded Japanese fake wrestlers. It just padded out the roster so nicely, and gave you guys you could gently caress around with.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Bischoff's book is hilarious. I tried reading it again a couple of months ago, I stopped reading when he went off on a rant about how the WWE books too many cool heels, they just don't understand how it's supposed to be done.

Even now I am completely flabbergasted at the idea of Eric Bischoff scolding WWE for booking heels to be cool.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I was watching a random Nitro episode from November 1997 this morning. Rey vs Eddie, Saturn vs Benoit, DDP vs Mr Perfect. Hell, even Jericho vs Disco was a fun little match. I forgot how fun old Nitro could be when they just had good workers out there doing their thing.

Even announcers hyping up World War 3 during all the matches didn't bug me, because at least it wasn't Michael Cole burying everyone.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

flashy_mcflash posted:

If I had to pick an announcer I hate more than Cole, Zbysko and Madden would be right up there. I mean, at least you know Cole is playing a character - what's your excuse Madden?

Madden actually talked a bit about his time in WCW recently, I don't know if you read it. He basically said that when things called for it he would do his best, like trying to put over Goldberg as a killer. But when he's announcing a viagra on a pole match, what do you want him to do?

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Lone Rogue posted:

Yeah, sorry Madden. He was a retard in every single Cruiserweight match. He did a deplorable job as a commentator. He tried to be Paul E. Dangerously and failed every night.

What did he do in cruiser matches? I can't remember.

Although I will never forget FACE FULL OF STUFF!! FACE FULL OF STUFF!!

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Stevie Ray was the original misogynist announcer, Cole just stole his gimmick

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Finished an episode of Nitro this morning. The episode had Hogan & Bischoff calling out Sting the entire time, Sting never showing up. Finally at the end Hogan & Bischoff are begging for Sting to face Hogan. Sting finally rappels down from the ceiling to the ramp and slides in the ring. He proceeds to get his rear end kicked by the nWo, and then We'reOutofTimeSeeYouNextWeekonNitrooooo

Wonderful plan there, Sting.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

RBX posted:

Im sure they ran out of time for real and planned on him getting up beating their rear end and Hogan running away down the ramp before time was up.

If that's the case, then I'd certainly bet that Hogan conveniently "lost track of time" and things ran late.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
God bored, here are some Road Wild highlights:

1998
Diamond Dallas Page and Jay Leno (with Kevin Eubanks) defeated Hollywood Hogan and Eric Bischoff (with The Disciple and Miss Elizabeth) (14:34)

Leno pinned Bischoff after Eubanks hit a Diamond Cutter on Bischoff.

At the end of the show, Travis Tritt performed a mini-concert.

1999
Hulk Hogan defeated Kevin Nash in a Retirement match to retain the WCW World Heavyweight Championship

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I just had a random memory pop into my head. It was after the invasion, and Mike Awesome was discussing his plans for his new tights with the seamstress. You see, he wanted the right leg to say "AWESOME" and... and the left leg... it would say "AWESOME"

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

LordPants posted:

I will say this, in late 96 it is amazing how far ahead of the curve Nitro was compared to RAW which really did suck. However, with RAW you can see all the pieces are there just waiting to be put together where as WCW stayed stagnent at the top until it was too late.

WCW looked so bright and big time, Raw looked like it was recorded in a dark cave somewhere.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I enjoyed Ready 2 Rumble, but I like terrible movies sometimes. I still think I WILL RUUULE YOUUU is a great wrestling catchphrase.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Even if it's a fake comedy streak, coming out and consistently wrecking dudes with chokeslams isn't the worst way to get a guy over. Better than trading wins every week anyway.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Astro7x posted:

His commentary was comical to a point. Every night was the greatest night in the history of the sport...

Meh I'd rather that then guys talking about how lovely their tag team champions, their money in the bank holder and their women are.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I watched the fingerpoke of doom randomly the other day, and my god Nash had a lot of pyro. Somehow I forgot that.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I just remembered a scene from a Nitro I watched on the weekend. It was after a PPV where Nash was dressed up as Sting, where he hit someone with a bat.

Anyway down came "fake Sting" again and the announcers were like WELL HERE'S NASH IN HIS MASK AGAIN. Then he removes the mask and underneath it's real Sting in his facepaint!!!

I laughed because I thought the first time that happened was in that TNA gif, but nope.

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triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Moose Bigelow posted:

My favorite memory of Nitro is all the times fans tried to rush the ring and beat up the nWo.

I like to think that they were just SO MAD at the nwo that they felt they had to take matters into their own hands. "I'll take out Hogan and I'll be a HERO!"

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