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If the Macho and Stephanie rumor was true, I find it difficult to believe they'd let their #2 face do his elbow drop in an obvious tribute.
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jeffersonlives posted:On the other hand, Punk has a lot of latitude and the announcers never acknowledge that it's a Savage tribute, to the point of ignoring loud chants for Savage the first few times he did it. That's a good point, but it still seems to me like Punk's elbow would go over as well as a throat slash followed by a diving headbutt if he had sex with a fourteen year old Stephanie. Also, didn't Vince write a rather nice tribute to him in Time magazine? I could see Vince perhaps feeling obligated to have a short on air tribute given the circumstances, but why write a article on him if he truly hated him on a personal level?
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I was checking Tito Santana's cagematch page after his surprise appearance at King of Trios. According to the site, he wrestled one match for WCW in his career. This occurred on a Nitro airing in January of the year 2000. He beat Jeff Jarrett in a Dungeon match that lasted slightly under 2:30 and featured Chris Benoit as a special guest referee. What the hell was the story behind this? I was watching very little WCW by that point and don't remember this at all.
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MassRayPer posted:
I don't pay as much attention to the WWE's financials as you or many other people on here, but I thought that outside of WrestleMania their business had declind to the point where they'd potentially be in a very precarious position of their proposed network launched and failed, unlike previous expensive failures like the WBF and the XFL which they were able to swallow more easily due to being healthier at the time?
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Oatgan posted:I just noticed he named his dog Adolf Him naming his Mary Sue's dog Adolf was the first thing that jumped out to me.
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I had no clue Sabu was in 1995 WCW, much less that he wrestled Jerry Lynn. I'll have to start reading those old newsletters, I've always skipped them since I wasn't following wrestling at all in that period. Reading about Big Show's major debut was interesting as well, don't usually think about him being around that long even though I remember his nWo period.
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I know it's been said many, many times before, but how they gently caress could even Russo think unmasking Rey was a good idea?
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Did dirtsheets point out that Russo was an idiot before he arrived in WCW and promptly revealed it to the world? I read sites like Rajah back then, but he had a pretty good reputation on the sites that I checked out back then and I even remember a few articles forecasting doom for the WWF with their main creative force gone to the competition.
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triplexpac posted:While we are talking about Dave being a luddite, does he still get faxes all the time? From Japan at least, which prompted Bryan to go on a rant about his Japanese faxes a month or so ago. To be fair, I believe faxes are still commonplace over there.
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Jan 31, 2013 16:50
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Also Sprach Zarathustra was composed in 1896 and is in the public domain, but a specific recording of it could certainly still be under copyright. Shouldn't be tough to find a free version of it though.
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Feb 3, 2013 19:15
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The Jericho vs Malenko feud was what got me back into following wrestling in '98.
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What's the story with the Mean Gene 1-900 hotline that won worst promotional tactic? Not familiar with that one since I wasn't watching wrestling that year. And I thought WCW was supposedly at least better than the WWF during that period?
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I get them confused since they were both before my time and they had similar names, but it struck we as odd that Adrian Street won best gimmick the same year that Adrian Adonis was voted as the worst. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wrestling_Observer_Newsletter_awards#Best_Gimmick
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DeathChicken posted:I'm pretty sure the Nintendo line was actually free up until the 90s or so, when they went from having live people to talk to to a prerecorded thing. IIRC it was free but a long distance instead of a 1-800 number? I remember it cost my parents in some way so I was only allowed to call on a few occasions.
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Mar 20, 2013 22:27
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Was Jeff Jarrett the last wrestler to jump from WWF to WCW? If not, who? I'm guessing there might have been someone else right at the end but I'm unable to come up with any names.
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LividLiquid posted:WWF thought Scarface was a great wrestling gimmick. And Anton Chigur was a great wrestling gimmick. And The Joker was a great wrestling gimmick. And The Devil was a great wrestling gimmick. And most people here (including myself) are looking forward to seeing Bray Wyatt's Max Cady gimmick. Who was the Chigurh gimmick though?
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jeffersonlives posted:That's fair, but Sting's only main event program that didn't bomb was with Hogan, who was back in a period where he would draw well regardless. How successful was his early '90s program with Flair when he won the World title for the first time? I know absolutely nothing about any relevant business figures like attendance, buyrates, and tv ratings for early '90s WCW, but it seemed like a pretty big deal at the time and kids at my grade school were talkng about it even though we were all primarily WWF fans.
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jeffersonlives posted:Extremely unsuccessful. Huh, interesting. That was the angle that got me into WCW and I even enjoyed the infamous Black Scorpion angle. Of course, the opinion of a small child who never saw PPVs until they hit VHS rental stores and lived in an area the WWF was much more likely to tour in wasn't exactly going to mean much.
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Yeah, it's really tough to compare drawing ability across different eras since the methods a wrestling company makes money have changed so much over the years. You could probably make a really good case for Austin at his peak for being the #1 all time draw, but his peak was much shorter than Hogan's or Bruno's.
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The funny thing was that it wasn't event the first time that happened to Piper at Starrcade. Just watched the Piper vs. Valentine Dog Collar match since I got the WWE Piper DVD set as a Secret Santa gift. The commentators were pushing it as a title match and called Piper the new champ when he won, only to hastily correct themselves seconds later and announce that it was actually a non title match.
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MassRafTer posted:The only people who thought Goldberg was one of the guys in that segment were people who barely watched WCW. If you watched WCW you knew it was Horshu because Horshu would pop up as a jobber semi regularly during Goldberg's run. It was one of those dumb rumors that was a product of how polarized fans were and dead set on trying to discredit the company they didn't like. I only vaguely remember Horshu all these years later, but the guy from the skit looked very little like Goldberg anyway beyond being a muscular dude with facial hair, which is hardly an distinguishing characteristic for a pro wrestler in 1997.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Someone hasn't seen the "Lex, Sting, Road Warriors, and more doing coke in the dressing room and acting like twelve year olds at camp" tape I take it. Anyone in this thread who hasn't should rectify that immediately. Belongs here anyway since it happened in the direct predecessor of WCW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMh2aBYKucM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1D6MW9uqsA
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pathetic little tramp posted:Guys this is a pretty informative thread but I feel it's missing out on a lot of information, luckily I found this website that seems like the goto nWo repository The chat and guestbook are down 
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epitasis posted:Lawler made racist jokes constantly as a heel. A poo poo-load about Taka Michinoku, I remember some Tito Santana ones. Hell if anybody was heeling on somebody by being racist, Lawler would back them up. Pretty sure he made a bunch of criminal jokes about Booker T during that loving Triple H feud. You can write it off as heeling but they're not hard to find. I'm not going to defend a lot of the poo poo he said as a heel announcer, but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was an old school wrestler heeling it up. Unlike many of his contemporaries like Hayes and Dusty I've never heard of him being a racist off the air.
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All the ones in more recent WCW have been mentioned, but how about the Black Scorpion angle or not having an identity for the mysterious masked wrestler assaulting your world champ when beginning it if you want something more specific? NWO Souled Out's a weird case in that the idea itself made perfect sense on paper but holy poo poo was the execution awful.
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oatgan posted:tell me more about this wrestling laptop Terri Runnels played an evil laptop toting businesswoman named Alexandra York. She'd use her laptop to analyze opponents and calculate the amount of time her wrestlers would need to win matches. Mike Rotunda (right before he jumped to WWF as IRS), Terry Taylor, and a heel Ricky Morton were the wrestlers I remember. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3iK-JTSrTw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evKsxUoKEo4 coconono posted:That laptop angle was amazingly ahead of its time. esp since it was a Sinclair word processor, IIRC Yeah, now that you mention it I remember my dad thinking that it was hilarious she just had a word processor and not a full laptop and pointing that out to me. Thauros fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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fatherdog posted:Powerlifting, Olympic weightlifting, and bodybuilding are in fact completely different things. Yeah, guys with legitimately incredible functional strength who have a modicum of charisma definitely have a place in wrestling. I was reading an AMA with an Icelandic strongman who's the new guy playing Gregor Clegane on Game of Thrones and I thought how potentially great at pro wrestling a mobile 6'9 guy who's interested in acting and can deadlift over 900 lbs could be.
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Maxwell Lord posted:There were several years between TNA's inception and Dixie taking control. Actually, Panda bought TNA in October of 2002 although it was several years before they ended up on Spike. Thauros fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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It's too long to repost here, but Melzter reused his notes from the June 16th, 1997 issue of the Observer to revisit the Piper/Nash backstage fight that they were arguing about on Twitter a few days ago. It went down backstage after the June 9th Nitro in Boston, so we should be watching that one fairly soon in PSP.tv. Obviously neither side can be trusted to be totally accurate but it seems like Nash's version of events is closer to the truth and both Nash and Dave put the blame on Piper for a lovely negative star main event in front of what was then the biggest crowd and gate in the company's history. quote:Piper wasn’t doing what they agreed on doing, although Nash also didn’t appear to want to sell much for Piper. The match storyline was that Piper would work and sell the match, leading to Flair’s hot tag. However, Piper looked horrible and even with the star power, the match was killed and was way into the negative stars. Piper also called for the finish way early, about 6:00 into a match scheduled for 12:00, which meant the post-match brawl to end the show literally lasted forever. I'll always be a Piper mark, but it's pretty sad when Kevin Nash of all people takes you to task for lovely lazy work with at least some justification.
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Halloween Jack posted:As somebody who doesn't follow the WON, what is Meltzer's general approach to Hogan in his writing? Because unlike most of the Internet, he seems to be able to be objective about a wrestler's drawing power and overall importance even if he enjoys their matches about as much as a wet fart. That's pretty much how he approaches him. He's always recognized that Hogan was a massive draw at his peak and that he's one of the most important wrestlers in the history of the business despite disliking him as a person and generally as a performer. It's hilarious reading how much he obviously enjoyed that one Nitro in Charlotte late in Hogan's face run where the fans booed him vociferously, tore up and threw the Hogan merch they were handed, and cheered loudly for Flair.
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Thauros posted:It's hilarious reading how much he obviously enjoyed that one Nitro in Charlotte late in Hogan's face run where the fans booed him vociferously, tore up and threw the Hogan merch they were handed, and cheered loudly for Flair. That was so loving awesome I had to search through this thread to find where MRT posted the 12/11/95 Nitro recap. If anything deserves to be reposted in this thread it's this. MassRafTer posted:I think I have discovered what Dave Meltzer uses for porn.
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This isn't WCW, but it involves Ric Flair and the NWA World Heavyweight championship, and it belongs somewhere:quote:@davemeltzerWON 13h http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21wkw_ric-flair-vs-kerry-von-erich_sport
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What I found interesting albeit unsurprising was that they had no loving clue how to continue the Sting angle and when to get him back in the ring at that point.
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Anyone have a copy? That sounds worth adding to a Tuesday Nitro playlist, or at the very least that one segment.
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DDP and Flair would be the two biggest names that were around for the entire period but never joined (unless you count DDP's fakeout).
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Great White Hope posted:WCW, shortly before Hogan formed the nWo, were selling inflatable Hulk Hogan rafts. There are goons on the case to try and find one, much like someone found the infamous birdshit ad that is posted somewhere in this thread. It was a giveaway if you mailed in proof of purchasing Great American Bash in 2000, not a normal item for sale online. E:FB
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triplexpac posted:Every now and then I remember that at one point Stevie Ray was the leader of the nWo and I laugh. Why even bother continuing the group at that point, I guess just to have an excuse to sell the shirts? Was he ever actually leader of the whole stable? I remember he was the top B&W/B-team guy after the Wolfpac turned heel and became the A-team.
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