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Macksy
Oct 20, 2008


Thanks for the feedback. I'd prefer not having to use ios, but I'll keep it in mind. I don't know if I could drop that kind of money on a tablet if the drawing programs or apps are inferior to what I normally use. If tablet apps are only good for sketching or light painting/illustration work are there cheaper alternatives to the ipad? I used to have an old samsung note, but the spen was pretty shite for pressure sensitivity, but it's been a long time since that. Are they any better now?

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squirrelzipper
Nov 2, 2011



Macksy posted:

Thanks for the feedback. I'd prefer not having to use ios, but I'll keep it in mind. I don't know if I could drop that kind of money on a tablet if the drawing programs or apps are inferior to what I normally use. If tablet apps are only good for sketching or light painting/illustration work are there cheaper alternatives to the ipad? I used to have an old samsung note, but the spen was pretty shite for pressure sensitivity, but it's been a long time since that. Are they any better now?

Clip Studio and Procreate on iOS are not at all inferior to any other platform imo. The pricing model on clip studio is annoying though.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

Clip Studio isn't inferior in that it's a straight up port of everything. But its UI was made for the desktop and I find doesn't really lend itself to tablets all that well, unless they've changed it in the last year. But also I am not going to pay a subscription for something I own on the desktop. :/

the_lion
Jun 8, 2010

On the hunt for prey...

Macksy posted:

Thanks for the feedback. I'd prefer not having to use ios, but I'll keep it in mind. I don't know if I could drop that kind of money on a tablet if the drawing programs or apps are inferior to what I normally use. If tablet apps are only good for sketching or light painting/illustration work are there cheaper alternatives to the ipad? I used to have an old samsung note, but the spen was pretty shite for pressure sensitivity, but it's been a long time since that. Are they any better now?

Check out Brad Colbow's reviews on YouTube. I think he has done a video on alternatives a while back.

Cheese Thief
Oct 30, 2020



My Cintiq 16" has a crack in the glass. Was thinking about contacting Wacom and asking them to fix it. Has anyone done this?

HeartArt
Oct 25, 2020



I have recently gotten a cintiq pro at work, but for the first time Iím using it almost exclusively with Windows 10 instead of with a mac. I have run into an issue with Windows Ink and am wondering if anyone has found a fix for this. I either have windows ink enabled in photoshop and can have pressure sensitivity on my brushes, but no right click functionality on the side button of my pen, or vice versa. Obviously both would do wonders for my workflow, but I cannot find a fix online that actually works... help please!

HeartArt fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Dec 4, 2020

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

Yellow Pearl, Blue Pearl, Pink Pearl

Boba Pearl.




Is the Cintiq really worth it? I've been using an Intuos Pro for like a year now, and I've felt no need to upgrade, what differences are there looking at the drawing in your lap / desk and drawing directly on it, compared to drawing on a tablet and seeing the drawing on your screen?

cloudy
Jul 3, 2007

Alive to the universe; dead to the world.

I'm not a professional but... It's just a preference thing as far as I know. If you don't see the need to change then you save some money and keep a better ergonomic setup. 👍

Futaba Anzu
May 5, 2011

GROSS BOY



non screen tablets better for painting, screen tablets better for lining/coloring styles

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007




I need some advice. I’m looking to get into digital art just for my own enjoyment and I’m trying to find a tablet. Most of my experience with drawing has been with charcoal on larger paper so I like the idea of tablets with a larger screen, but the controls on some of the smaller ones seem much better for the price. I’m looking at the four tablets below right now. Anyone have experience with them, or have opinions on tablet size?

XP-PEN Artist 15.6 Pro
https://www.newegg.com/black-xp-pen-artist15-6-pro/p/172-004D-00031

XP-PEN Artist22E Pro
https://www.newegg.com/black-xp-pen-artist22e-pro/p/172-004D-00025?&quicklink=true

GAOMON PD2200
https://www.newegg.com/p/172-00KB-00010?Item=9SIAPJBBX64577

Huion Kamvas 22
https://www.newegg.com/huion-kamvas-22-black/p/172-0006-000B5?Item=9SIA2SZBKM9401

 

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today


Looking at getting back into drawing and don't really want to spend more than $100. This is what I already have:
  • iMac
  • iPad 2
  • Maglus stylus I hate it but the iPad 2 is so old that it doesn't look compatible with any of the Apple Pencils
  • Fujitsu ScanSnap S1300
  • Duet Display - I bought this back in 2015 so I don't think I have Pro?

I just tried doing some simple line art in Krita on my iPad 2 connected to my Mac via Duet Display and...the lag just sucks. Am I just better off hand drawing stuff and scanning it in at a high resolution for coloring? The amount of undo involved in trying to draw anything digitally directly is just painful though I could probably put up with it if it's just coloring rather than the actual drawing part.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

Leng posted:

Am I just better off hand drawing stuff and scanning it in at a high resolution for coloring? The amount of undo involved in trying to draw anything digitally directly is just painful though I could probably put up with it if it's just coloring rather than the actual drawing part.
If your budget is $100, then scanning is going to give you the best results.

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today


Thanks for that, I had a feeling that was going to be the case but it's good to have confirmation.

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today


Trip report: I made the mistake of walking into a store to try out drawing with the latest iPad Pro and Apple Pencil 2. It is so much fun!!!

Still don't have enough of a budget for that, though I think I could scrape enough together for an older iPad and Apple Pencil. How much of a difference is there if I got say, a 1st or 2nd gen iPad Pro with the 1st gen Apple Pencil?

Edit: and do the specs of the iPad Pro really give it that much of an advantage over using a normal iPad or iPad air?

Leng fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Feb 14, 2021

Pick
Jul 19, 2009



Nap Ghost

As a plug-in model, you can get a very useable Huion Kamvas 13 for $219, which is a bit above your budget but might be worth looking into or saving up for.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009



Nap Ghost

Cheese Thief posted:

My Cintiq 16" has a crack in the glass. Was thinking about contacting Wacom and asking them to fix it. Has anyone done this?

I've gotten them repaired before and it's a pretty easy process, take photos and they'll give you a quote before you commit also to see if it's worth it. They repair them domestically and it's a fast turnaround.

In my opinion, a Cintiq is completely worth it--having tried a few other devices, I still think they're top of the pack. The surface of the new Cintiqs is a dream to work on, the anti-glare is fantastic, and the resolution is absurd. Virtually zero parallax. I wouldn't consider anything else a bargain; they compromise on the things that make it comfortable and easy to work.

e: To clarify, I feel like the previous two generations of Cintiq really brought the name down quite a bit. There were a few models known for breaking, and they were light and better than the other tablets, but not by such an extent that it justified the price. It felt much more household-artist oriented, which made sense but I think made it harder to differentiate themselves. And I feel Wacom took a cold hard look and told their engineers the newest line had to loving blow poo poo out of the water or they were toast. Luckily, the new line blows poo poo out of the water. The current Cintiqs feel like a loving cadillac, and weigh about as much. (42 lbs!)

Pick fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Feb 14, 2021

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

On a planet that increasingly resembles one huge Maximum Security prison, the only intelligent choice is to plan a jail break.



Leng posted:

Trip report: I made the mistake of walking into a store to try out drawing with the latest iPad Pro and Apple Pencil 2. It is so much fun!!!

Still don't have enough of a budget for that, though I think I could scrape enough together for an older iPad and Apple Pencil. How much of a difference is there if I got say, a 1st or 2nd gen iPad Pro with the 1st gen Apple Pencil?

Edit: and do the specs of the iPad Pro really give it that much of an advantage over using a normal iPad or iPad air?

Look into used/refurbished older generation iPad Pros (like the 9.7"), it might be worth saving up for one. I went through the same thing, someone let me try their ipad pro + apple pencil for 5 minutes and I said "Yeah I need one now." I picked up a used one for around $300 on Amazon and couldn't be happier with it as a drawing tool (I use it for literally nothing except Procreate).

But that being said I can't answer your question re: iPad Pro vs Air/Normal. I don't know anything about Apple products, this is the only one I own and I bought it blindly because I was shopping for a tablet already and fell in love with it in those first 5 minutes.

E: I got a first-gen Apple Pencil because someone told me that a second gen pencil wouldn't work with my older ipad (not sure if that's true) and it's great.

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Feb 15, 2021

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana

I have a first-generation iPad Pro 12.9Ē that I bought used in 2015, itís still going strong. Itís easily the best digital drawing experience Iíve ever had, and Iíve spent probably 20 years and who knows how many on different devices and platforms.

low key sex master
May 27, 2004






Neon Noodle posted:

I have a first-generation iPad Pro 12.9Ē that I bought used in 2015, itís still going strong. Itís easily the best digital drawing experience Iíve ever had, and Iíve spent probably 20 years and who knows how many on different devices and platforms.

I got one and got Procreate with it and I'm really enjoying making art. I'm not very good at it but I've found a lot of tutorials online and things of that nature that has made it well worth the amount of money that I spent on this.

Speaking of that is there a digital art/procreate thread? Forgive me if I haven't seen it - new to this particular subform.

Listerine
Jan 5, 2005

Exquisite Corpse

low key sex master posted:

I got one and got Procreate with it and I'm really enjoying making art. I'm not very good at it but I've found a lot of tutorials online and things of that nature that has made it well worth the amount of money that I spent on this.

Speaking of that is there a digital art/procreate thread? Forgive me if I haven't seen it - new to this particular subform.

It's not very active, but it's here

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3711772

Leng
May 13, 2006

One song / Glory
One song before I go / Glory
One song to leave behind


No other road
No other way
No day but today


deep dish peat moss posted:

used/refurbished older generation iPad Pros (like the 9.7")

Reporting back to say this is what I did. Picked up an iPad Pro 9.7" 256 GB WiFi only for $375 AUD and an Apple Pencil 1 for another $100 AUD. Downloaded Procreate for another $15 on the App Store. $490 AUD all up, which I'm pretty happy with since my goal was to keep it under $500 AUD altogether.

Have just spent 90 mins drawing with it and I love it. Now I want the Paperlike screen protector and the DraftTable stand but that's another $60 AUD and $120 AUD respectively so I'll just muddle along for now.

Meanwhile I decided to stop procrastinating and sell a bunch of other stuff I had lying around and am not using, just so I can feel like this purchase wasn't that much of a hole in the bank account.

Claes Oldenburger
Apr 23, 2010

Metal magician!




If anyone has an ipad and pencil, Astropad just announced their beta for the windows version of their screen sharing software. Not sure how well it works, but I'm going to try it out tonight. Hopefully it works better than the other offerings out there and lets me use my ipad as a cheap cintiq!

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph


That would be great if it works well, although my iPad is old enough I am keeping my expectations low that my experience with it will be perfect

Futaba Anzu
May 5, 2011

GROSS BOY



Wowporn posted:

That would be great if it works well, although my iPad is old enough I am keeping my expectations low that my experience with it will be perfect

apparently it's poo poo and heavy app latency problems. About as good of a result as an $80 product will get you in this field, basically

Claes Oldenburger
Apr 23, 2010

Metal magician!




I tested it out last night and seems to be better than every other offering I have tried so YMMV. I'm not used to a cintiq so maybe that makes a difference? Seemed pretty snappy. Wired though, didn't test wireless.

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Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph


IDK it might be the opposite cause in my experience (it's been a while tbf) cintiqs are not the snappiest possible solution. If I ever need to work on projects beyond what my iPad can handle I'll probably get a free trial

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