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bitmap posted:"We haven't quite worked out how to make a working tablet display yet" said wacom spokesperson Burt Pricegouge, who seemed irritated to be at his own product release as he shifted in his oversized suit. "But here's a bad computer you can plug into the back of our garbage I guess lol" Why would you buy that thing? It's essentially just a computer right? Am I missing something?
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Yeah I read that earlier today and was super confused as to why they thought that is a good idea. It makes no sense.
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Listerine posted:Why would you buy that thing? It's essentially just a computer right? no, you aren't missing anything. you now see wacom with perfect clarity in a pale morning light, infuriating idiocy laid bare.
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That's pretty bizarre but I can see it becoming a popular thing in the Japanese market. But I am glad to see that they have swivel on the new stand, I was bummed that it wasn't available on the last big-rear end Cintiq and missed it when I had mine.
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Would this be the right thread to ask if an iPad pro and apple pencil + procreate is worth it for the portability over a wacom tablet with a display? I currently have an old intuos 4 that is dying and would like to upgrade. The portability seems nice! I do some light zbrush work as well (all fairly low poly meshes), and I know that the ipad wouldn't work for that...but maybe there is an alternative?
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Claes Oldenburger posted:Would this be the right thread to ask if an iPad pro and apple pencil + procreate is worth it for the portability over a wacom tablet with a display? yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes 
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Neon Noodle posted:yes Haha okay. Any feelings on whether the bigger one is worth it? Methinks it might be... On the topic of digital sculpting, all I really require is being able to export models in .stl or .obj, has anyone used an iPad pro and forger?
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Mar 1, 2018 23:20
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I’ve got the big one, no ragrets
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+yet another to the iPad pro in this thread. I will say I'm not so hot on Procreate though; the brushes are great, but I felt like they went way too hard on sleekness over usability. Having to go through a couple of submenus every time I want to access the layers and change brushes and so on got really tiresome, although tbf I have a very digitally-reliant workflow so I can see how that's not an issue for people that don't interact with that stuff as often as I do. Clip Studio absolutely owns on it though, it's the total opposite of Procreate in the UI regard; it's almost literally just the PC interface, so you can have as much of it there as you want and customize it to your heart's content and so on. Might not work as well with the smaller tablet though, seconding that I'd recommend getting the big one. disclaimer for Clip Studio, importing all my brushes was a huge pain in the rear end. But after a few hours of tedium that was done and it's been almost literally perfect ever since. edit: also I dunno if this is a consideration for you, but mockable as the ad campaign was it has been pretty good as a substitute laptop as long as you don't need to do any hardcore computer things. The smart keyboard is actually pretty good, although for some reason it stops recognizing it every time I have to connect to new wifi for the first time so I have to reboot it. Koramei fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Also Clip Studio is subscription based which is annoying to some people.
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Yeah, they made up for having the most aggressively reasonable prices out of any PC art software by gouging us on the tablet version now that they have a major userbase. I really would recommend it though, plus you get the first six months free so you can check it out for yourself for a while first.
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Koramei posted:+yet another to the iPad pro in this thread. I will say I'm not so hot on Procreate though; the brushes are great, but I felt like they went way too hard on sleekness over usability. Having to go through a couple of submenus every time I want to access the layers and change brushes and so on got really tiresome, although tbf I have a very digitally-reliant workflow so I can see how that's not an issue for people that don't interact with that stuff as often as I do. Thanks for the deets. I was considering using it as well with the keyboard as a pseudo laptop for business organizational purposes/makeshift shopify register, so it's good to know it would handle that well.
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Koramei posted:Yeah, they made up for having the most aggressively reasonable prices out of any PC art software by gouging us on the tablet version now that they have a major userbase. I really would recommend it though, plus you get the first six months free so you can check it out for yourself for a while first. I believe the 6 month free trial was a promo offered only to people who installed it by December. Also it's super great but it drains batteries like nothing else I've ever seen. If I don't explicitly return to the home screen before putting the iPad on standby, Clip Studio seems to continuously drain the battery. I doubt you can even reach 3 hours of painting before you need to charge it, but I guess you can work while it charges too.
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They extended it so the trial's available whenever now; I activated mine in late January. I haven't had the issue with it draining battery even on standby but it is pretty power hungry yeah.
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Anyone know much about this software and how it compares to Sai? Medibang Paint https://medibangpaint.com/en/pc/
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sigma 6 posted:Anyone know much about this software and how it compares to Sai? whats up with this "desktop free, portable $$$" business model popping up everywhere
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It’s OK, it has some features and design similar to Clip Studio. I have a soft spot in my heart for Sai and I don’t think Medibang is all that similar, but it’s a good free/cheap option to have. Sai is just a special, wonderful little app 
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Neon Noodle posted:It’s OK, it has some features and design similar to Clip Studio. I have a soft spot in my heart for Sai and I don’t think Medibang is all that similar, but it’s a good free/cheap option to have. Sai is just a special, wonderful little app Yeah that’s how I felt, mediabang was cool but I didn’t use it much and now I have clip studio on my iPad so I’ll likely never look at it again.
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Got my intuos pro large today. Saved some cash and the hassle of the cintiqs.
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Good job. I worked with a cintiq for awhile but it really doesnt suit my workflow at all.
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My Surface is pretty great, but the battery drains like crazy in hibernate. I had it in my bag for two days and it's dead now. If it's overnight I have maybe 20% battery power. Is this normal or should I talk to Microsoft?
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Dogwood Fleet posted:My Surface is pretty great, but the battery drains like crazy in hibernate. I had it in my bag for two days and it's dead now. If it's overnight I have maybe 20% battery power. Is this normal or should I talk to Microsoft? If it's actually entering Hibernate it shouldn't be draining the battery particularly fast... I couldn't find an official source on what the standby time actually is but there are some diagnostics/settings you can mess with to see if it improves anything. First, you can generate a report through the Command Prompt that will give you some detailed information about battery drain. Open the start menu and type "cmd" to bring up the Command Prompt option, then right click on it and choose "Run As Administrator". Once open type "powercfg /sleepstudy" to generate the report, this will save an HTML file to your c:\windows\system32 folder. It contains a bunch of information that will probably be of minimal use to you, but right at the top you can see an Android style battery usage chart, and beneath that you can see a list of state transitions. You should be able to confirm whether or not your system is actually entering Standby/Hibernate and how much battery power it's using during that time. As far as settings to tweak, if you right click the battery icon in the system tray (lower right, you may need to click the arrow if it isn't shown) and click "Power Options" you'll be taken to where you can modify the power and sleep settings for your device. Click "Change Plan Settings" under the "Selected Plan" header and you'll be greeted with options on when to sleep the system. You can tweak this if you wish but the Hibernate settings are a bit deeper. Click the "Change advanced power settings" link beneath the Display/Sleep options to open up yet another window, this one with a number of options. There's two to check: Under "Sleep > Hibernate After" you can change when the system goes into Hibernate (it might be pretty high by default); under "Power Buttons and Lid" you can modify what action the system should take when you single press the power button or flip the Type Cover onto the screen, respectively. Hope that helps.
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prob answered already but can i import my custom brushes and other stuff from my pc csp to an ipad csp?
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Yep! It's a bit convoluted though. I had to stuff them in a Dropbox folder then import them from there on the iPad. It'll probably be the same for whatever cloud storage you use. But they'll work exactly the same; the iPad version is pretty much a 1:1 port which has all the features, and for better or worse, has the exact same UI.
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Argue posted:Yep! It's a bit convoluted though. I had to stuff them in a Dropbox folder then import them from there on the iPad. It'll probably be the same for whatever cloud storage you use. But they'll work exactly the same; the iPad version is pretty much a 1:1 port which has all the features, and for better or worse, has the exact same UI. Ah I guess the key thing I forgot to mention was windows pc but Dropbox would probably suffice. Also a bit of further digging I learned that custom setting import/exporting is one of the things they were working on specifically for the iPad version so that's also nice. As for the ui, is there a simple fast way to tab collapse the windows or does everyone just use the smart keyboard?
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The smart keyboard doesn't work unless it's connected in the sorta laptop-style mode, which'd be pretty uncomfortable to draw on while using. You can use some gestures (tap with two fingers to undo, three to redo etc, or rebind them) for hotkey functionality but that is one of the main ways it's significantly limited compared to the desktop version in my opinion. I dunno what tab collapse is but if that's especially important to you and it's in the settings menu on the desktop version I imagine you can use one of the gesture slots for it. Just make sure you disable the drawing with your finger thing so you can use that slot for something else; I have no clue why it's on by default (I guess for people using Clip Studio without the Apple pencil for some reason??)
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I had to break down and get a new mac. And they don't have USB ports anymore so neither of my Wacom tablets are gonna work unless I get a special adapter. So, the new Intous that's out there. With the Bluetooth. Is it worth it? Is there lag? Connectivity issues? Battery drain? I'm just curious.
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Ferrule posted:I had to break down and get a new mac. And they don't have USB ports anymore so neither of my Wacom tablets are gonna work unless I get a special adapter. What? No. No way that is real. What do they have, then?
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Just all thunderbolt or whatever ports. Those little things. It's loving garbage.
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If it's a laptop, it's USB Type C, which is the new cable standard type. It will eventually replace USB Type A, but a lot of things like phones and other accessories use it now. You can certainly use Bluetooth, but you don't need a dongle specifically. You can get a USB Type C to Micro-B cable on Amazon for fairly cheap. iMacs and desktops still have regular USB Type A ports.
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It's a laptop. I need the portability on occasion. All my external drives and both my tablets (old-rear end gray Intouos 3 and a "newer" black Intous) and a host of other things use the old USB type so I have to get an adapter regardless. The latest Intous I was looking at on Wacom's website shows the smallest using a USB input and the medium and large having Bluetooth compatibility. Maybe my question wasn't as fleshed-out: I can avoid buying extra cables/adapters/whatever and bypass the newer ports on the laptop by going with a new Wacom that has Bluetooth compatibility. I'm just curious if anyone currently has it and can speak to the performance. Is there lag versus it being plugged into the machine via USB? Does using bluetooth drain the battery quicker? Etc etc.
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The lag performance is adequate. I use wireless mice (MX Master) and it seems comparable when I've operated one over BT. I stopped using Bluetooth after aw hile because if I have to plug it in to charge I might as well just go wired anyway. It does not have a big drain on the laptop's battery as the Wacom and laptop support 4.0LE. If you're used to running cables, though, a Type C to Micro B cable is functionally the same as a Type A to Micro B cable.
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I just tried mine out for half an hour with bluetooth, it's completely fine and I wouldn't have any issues using it like this permanently. There's a tiny bit more lag than when it's wired but after a couple of minutes I stopped noticing, and I'd only ever been using it wired before that too. Connectivity wasn't a problem , and the tablet itself also held 100% charge for that time.
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Not strictly tablet related: I am going to need a new computer sometime soon and finding out through this thread that Apple ditched USB was the final nail in the coffin for me, I guess I'm gong to have to go back to Windows in the next laptop. What bullshit.
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gmc9987 posted:Not strictly tablet related: I am going to need a new computer sometime soon and finding out through this thread that Apple ditched USB was the final nail in the coffin for me, I guess I'm gong to have to go back to Windows in the next laptop. A lot of new Windows laptops don't have USB-A any more either; USB-C lets them be slimmer, which is forever the goal. If you want to dump OSX then more power to you but that's not a great reason to do so. For the original question: I haven't used the latest Wacoms, but I used the wireless adapter with an older generation of tablet and never noticed the lag.
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Thanks everyone! I got some adapters since I'll need them regardless. Figure I've spent enough at the moment on the machine, not going to bother dumping more for a new Wacom since the other's are fine.
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gmc9987 posted:Not strictly tablet related: I am going to need a new computer sometime soon and finding out through this thread that Apple ditched USB was the final nail in the coffin for me, I guess I'm gong to have to go back to Windows in the next laptop. The laptop still uses USB, it just uses the latest form factor which is USB Type C and doesn't provide any old type A style ports. You can still use your regular USB peripherals, but it would require new cables (e.g. Type C to Micro/Mini B instead of Type A to Mini/Micro B) or a dongle (USB C to Female A). It will eventually consume windows machines too, and it already has on some. I totally get not buying a Macbook Pro because it doesn't have Type A anymore (cause there's tons of Type A to something cables out there and the dongle life can be dumb) but to say that they abandoned USB is false. The next round of Wacom tablets will most likely use USB C as their port form factor too.
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gmc9987 posted:Not strictly tablet related: I am going to need a new computer sometime soon and finding out through this thread that Apple ditched USB was the final nail in the coffin for me, I guess I'm gong to have to go back to Windows in the next laptop. Apple didn’t ditch USB? PC pro slim laptops also are moving to a similar design. Honestly this is kind of a bad post - if you don’t like Apple laptops, don’t buy one, not sure anyone else cares how many ‘nails in the coffin’ there are. Go buy a Dell. Be happy. Edit: the XPS 13 currently still has a USB port, next year it won’t. So buy that. squirrelzipper fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Mar 17, 2018 |
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I dunno if technically USB-c and USB-a are more compatible than getting a USB to thunderbolt cable or some poo poo but it's pretty obvious they mean Apple ditched the standard port that 90% of everyone's devices for the past 2 decades have been using, you goobs.
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