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It's amazing in both how far the CAF has shifted it's culture in the thirteen years I've been in and yet how absolutely far away it is from achieving it's objective at the same time. It was so staggeringly toxic even thirteen years ago that when I was describing the common culture as an infanteer back in 08' my wife was horrified at the stuff I was describing. And how we're still nowhere near where we should be.
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The "it's not happening in my unit" attitude is not only wrong, it's long served as the excuse to keep one's fingers in their ears.
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Mar 17, 2021 22:32
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Hell there was a MBdr in my unit who made it a point of pride to gently caress at least one female candidate on every course he instructed on. The guy instructed on at least 5 DP1 arty courses at Pet between 2003-2010. A girl I joined with who went to have a very distinguished career (went reg force MP, airborne, 2 tours in Afghanistan) recently made a Facebook post about the sexual harassment being a major reason for her early retirement.
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MA-Horus posted:Hell there was a MBdr in my unit who made it a point of pride to gently caress at least one female candidate on every course he instructed on. The guy instructed on at least 5 DP1 arty courses at Pet between 2003-2010. That's a short list; I probably know her, and without knowing her name I will blindly confirm all of her claims because holy gently caress
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Mar 18, 2021 16:13
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Yep.
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Mar 18, 2021 17:57
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The rampant infidelity and treatment of women disgusted me enough to contribute to my release, but I definitely didn't do anything to stop it - not that I probably could have anyway. The CF is long overdue for a reckoning.
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Hizawk posted:It's amazing in both how far the CAF has shifted it's culture in the thirteen years I've been in and yet how absolutely far away it is from achieving it's objective at the same time. The Petawawa hazing scandal was in 1995: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1995/01/23/Disgraced-airborne-regiment-disbanded/5605790837200/ Twenty-six years ago. ...yeah it’s a problem with deep roots.
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Mar 18, 2021 19:24
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Mine was the first "new guy party" in ages at the 3RCR shacks (only a decade after that) and while we didn't have to literally eat poo poo, being forced to funnel beers until you puke then funnelling some more until you puke again (repeat for a few hours) then slip&sliding down a beer and broken glass-filled hallway would probably be considered pretty abusive by... literally anyone. I distinctly recall a guy who singled me out and threatened to rape me (I'm male). We ended up being good friends later on but it's just that casual violence and abuse that was the norm, not to mention the racism. Which, again, wasn't overtly hostile in the "we actually hate you because you're brown/black" way, but the jokes and stereotypes that would be unacceptable in any workplace since the 90s.
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I'd have to go back to ye olde tymes of 2017 to remember the last time I overheard some officers casually tossing around some (hard-r) n-words.
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I remember how excited dudes my unit were to go crack some native skulls when the Caledonia occupation started. It's almost like it's a toxic environment of mainly white men!
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Not just! I also had a non-white NCO tell me he "could harm [his female platoon commander] sexually" in the mid aughts 
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Mar 20, 2021 15:45
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"I just prevented another rape" is definitely a thing that master corporal MPs should be saying after they allow a woman to walk past and out of earshot
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Today after fixing his car, I mentioned it to my grandpa who served for 20 years from around the 70's-90's in the medics corp, and he said it was really freaking bad (and this is from a sometimes mildly racist and occasionally bigoted person). Like he told me had a chief WO who made it a point of pride to change up his wife every few years with whoever the cutest new private or corporal was, and that's just what he mentioned offhand.
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I was waiting to post this one, as I hadn't realized that it (quietly) hit the media circuit already. https://inquinte.ca/story/fallen-soldier-arrives-at-cfb-trenton-sunday Edit: It is a very lovely situation, and I hope his family is doing okay. 
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Mar 22, 2021 00:15
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sexual-assault-allegations-vice-admiral-haydn-edmundson-1.5963430 If these allegations are true, this is just loving awful. 19 years old.
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Apr 1, 2021 14:51
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Let's fix it with another, increasingly-exasperated "we're here to support you" email
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Apr 1, 2021 15:39
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lmao, at this point we should just fire everyone and start fresh
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Apr 1, 2021 18:21
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Just go full Stalin and purge the officer corps not like we have any wars to fight
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What a horrible article. I can't imagine being confined on a ship, being assaulted, and having literally nobody to go to, in the whole organisation. loving hell
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Low recruiting, bad retention, and purging everyone who did a sex crime? Sounds like a big wave of upward mobility is coming on the O side
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Attire Irony posted:Low recruiting, bad retention, and purging everyone who did a sex crime? I’m reminded of that scene in the Simpsons where all the admirals recuse themselves from Homer’s trial because they’ve been involved in scandals.
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Apr 5, 2021 16:24
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So what do disgraced officers do once they leave the CAF - oh no
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Apr 7, 2021 04:59
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Nevermind, carry on.
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Apr 23, 2021 23:52
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FrozenVent posted:Nevermind, carry on. Yeah. Lotta that been goin on lately. It's okay to have existential questions about the org we work for. Talk to EAP if it's really eating at you.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5995295 Just...the whole loving thing. I hate how no one answered for this poo poo. How can we possibly say that the CAF can handle sexual misconduct internally.
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It should be apparent that the entire thing needs to be nuked from orbit and rebuilt.
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Apr 25, 2021 17:38
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who's ready for OP ONTARIO STRONG
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Apr 26, 2021 18:42
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Internet VFW > The Canadian Forces: Her Majesty now under investigation for sexual misconduct
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On Her Majesty's Secret Pervlist
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Jobbo_Fett posted:On Her Majesty's Secret Pervlist  MA-Horus posted:who's ready for OP ONTARIO STRONG Persons deployed for 45+ days can expect a service medal depicting a tin crack pipe.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:On Her Majesty's Secret Pervlist 
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Very fun playing six degrees of separation between me and the *seemingly weekly* outing of additional sexual assaulters in the CAF.
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Its okay, they'll just transfer to CIV.
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"We're going to hold this exercise to maintain operational readiness." *gets COVID-19* *entire unit no longer operationally ready* CBC News posted:Reid said the armed forces ran a vaccine clinic for Maple Resolve participants from April 26-29 and more than 1,700 doses were administered, which is about 90 per cent uptake. He said 150 members chose not to get the vaccine.
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"Just change the rule" is a step up from "Just plow forward and tell the people who show up to enforce the rule to go away". How many CAF members are getting covid, though?
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Do civilians count?
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Released from the CAF due to sexual misconduct? Fret not, you can still mentor victims of sexual assault.CBC News posted:Some Canadian Armed Forces veterans and first responders who are sexual assault survivors said they were outraged to learn their peer mentor at a women's trauma retreat was himself a registered sex offender. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/project-trauma-support-sex-offender-peer-mentor-1.6020782 Not really the CAF's fault, but man what a gong show.
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Has your unit recently suffered an outbreak of Covid-19? One so severe the entire unit needs tested? No worries, fellow soldier! The entire base will insanely step down so your unit can continue to run at 150%! Your lives are a sacrifice the Wing Commander is willing to make.
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