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DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Flanker posted:

Man, I traded a trench for a desk, and I loving hate it.

when I get back to my unit I want PLQ and/or HUMINT and/or interrogator, or else I'll go back into the infantry, at any cost. I might even release and rejoin when they re-open infantry. gently caress this remf horseshit.

You're such a weiner.

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DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Flanker posted:

Yes. In your mouth.

You miss me so much. I can tell.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Fire Above posted:

Usually the reservists jump in sometime before the big brigade training ex before deployment, sometimes even way before that. They do the garrison thing, hang out, live on base, do all the same training. So they've been augmenting their section anywhere from 3-6 months before deployment. You still get the last minute, 2 weeks from deploying dudes, like with what happened on 1-06. For the most part they become just another rifleman, albeit with a different capbadge. By the time they deploy, unless they are total complete shitpumps, they're pretty well accepted. But again it all depends on whoever's attitude. Before 1-06, I think reservists were pretty looked down on. After that tour I think a lot of attitudes changed. You still get the crusty warrants that hate maggots, or you get the relatively newish private types who either just got off their battleschool or havn't deployed at all who think they're hot poo poo and reservists are doofs. I dunno, it all depends on the person. You get shitbag reg force soldiers, you get shitbag reservists, you also get the best of both.

That's what it's like here out west, no idea how reservists are treated out east.

That's pretty much what I saw. Granted, I'm not combat arms and never have been. For 3-09, we had a looooong workup (9 months) and most of the reservists were there for the whole thing.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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HammerOfHope posted:

Also I don't think it's called MOPP 1-4 anymore, it's now Dress State where "DS 0" is the suit within 2 hours' reach (iirc) and "DS 4 with mask" is like MOPP 4. That's what they taught at St-Jean last year, anyway.

I think that standard has changed like 3 times in the last year. Because in Afghanistan, there were a few different names it was called and nobody knew which was which.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Samu posted:

Thanks for the advice. My plan of attack is to just do my best. I'm almost definitely not going to be the best in my platoon or whatever, but I'm not going to not give my all because I'm afraid of standing out. I'm not going to ask stupid questions or stick out by being an rear end in a top hat. I want to carry my own load and lend a hand to whoever needs it when I can. I have good common sense and I'd like to think I'm good with people.

gently caress anyone who gives you static for being motivated. This is what I did - be a quiet professional, do your best at all your tasks and don't be an rear end in a top hat. That doesn't make you a keener or a suckup, it makes you a good soldier.

If you're really good at what you do, the staff will notice and give you more poo poo to do. Good. Do well at that poo poo too. Don't get sucked in by the bitter soldiers who are just trying to slide by and make their course as easy as possible.

Just don't talk about yourself, don't ask for more tasks and don't be a showoff if you're good at something. Help the guys that are struggling and stand up for yourself if people are being dicks to you.

Good luck.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Tom Swift posted:

From what my recruiter told me my CFAT scores were really good. I'll be the first to admit I slacked off in high school when it came down to extra curricular activities. My first choice was Intel Officer and recruiter told me I was disqualified for that as RMC is only school that offers that and my Math a 74 in Calculus was to low. Left me interviewing for Civi U ROTP for Infantry and Logistics Officer.

There are no ROTP slots for INT O? Weird. Remember that joining as one trade and remustering to another one isn't always guaranteed - I know a few Log O's who have been stuck in it for years now after their recruiter promised them that they'd be able to remuster to Infantry once they were in.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Tom Swift posted:

ROTP for INT O is RMC exclusive as it requires a Top Secret security clearance where as all other Officer trades only require a level 2 clearance. RMC is the only University in Canada that requires a grade 12 advanced math for a Bachelor of Arts. I got 74 in Calculus and it was not enough.

I guess I heard rumours CP was being taken away from the MP's in the near future and made it's own thing as well as possibly offering the course to Officers.

Drake do you know if it is possible to get "promises" from recruiters in writing that would hold legal grounds? I've heard of guys doing this State side being told they'd graduate Basic or whatever course at xxx pay level with xyz status at abc rank.

Yeah, the security clearance thing definitely isn't true.

CP has already been "taken away" from the MP's and is now open to all trades. Just like CSOR, JTF 2 and almost everything else cool in the CF. Edit: Not everything else, sorry. There are still things that are cool that are only open to specific trades (INT being one of them). :colbert:

I doubt it's possible. Most recruiters would know better than to promise anything on paper anyways - they know as well as we do that they can't really promise you anything that isn't already on paper somewhere else.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Tom Swift posted:

Ahh I see yea the CF recruiting process is SNAFU, it's kinda annoying in many ways I want to be in already and getting my courses done with but as I've stated previously my recruiter suggested I reapply to ROTP rather than join the Reserves now. I guess that is a little bit of encouragement and that he definitely thought I should have got in the first time and figures I should get in the second try.

I feel like it's going to be a long road ahead, FFL and CSIS are also calling for me at the back of my head when I have doubts that the CF will not come through. I also know UofT has a 2nd year admission program special to CSIS and CF INT types.

I'm only 19 and will be starting at UBC this Fall I still think I have lots of time not an old man yet. At the same time I'm pretty sure I know what I want in life.

You have tons of time. I'm not sure what CSIS' hiring is like right now, but in the past it's been incredibly competitive. Like, a Master's degree or multiple Bachelor's, and multiple languages.

I'm also intrigued by this U of T program but can't google anything on it. Tell me more.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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tuyop posted:

What's cool about intelligence again?

As far as I know it's all about collating data from troops in contact, patrol reports, and Battalion and Battle Group level recce assets and presenting them to the appropriate commanders so that they can make their Rommel plans. Lots of matrices and powerpoints to Colonels who ignore a lot of the data anyway because a lot of unnecessary detail has to be included. People just seem to hear intelligence and think it must be arcane poo poo where you carry concealed weapons and grow a beard and spy on people. Maybe HUMINT is cool, but again I thought that was open to all trades because I know a SIGS guy who did a HUMINT tour and an infantry reservist who did a lot of HUMINT work overseas.

Unfortunately, that's what Intelligence became while we were being a lazy, sad peacetime army. Now that we're in conflict again, our military is thankfully re-learning how to actually use intelligence. There's a fantastic document about how our INT infrastructure needs to be changed (It's American, but relevant to basically every NATO nation: http://www.cnas.org/files/documents/publications/AfghanIntel_Flynn_Jan2010_code507_voices.pdf ) Briefing Intelligence is an art that isn't really well taught from what I've seen, which results in a lot of people having a bad experience with a mediocre INT Op or O. This damages the credibility of the whole trade, and results in a misunderstanding of the real role of intelligence in the military.

The reality of intelligence is that it's almost 95% information/intelligence management and presentation. It's very heavy on producing documents, reports and powerpoint slideshows. 5% of it is super sneaky HSLD stuff. But that HSLD stuff is really really awesome.

Tom Swift posted:

I had a coworker this past winter who attended UofT for the program, he was in the CF at the time and hold's a couple Bachelor's degrees after he graduated there was a huge family emergency which he didn't get into to much about and had to bail from the CF to live back home. It used to be called something different but now it is it the ultra poltiically correct Trudeau Centre for Peace and Conflict Studies.

hmm

That sounds like most of the other Conflict or Peace Studies programs I've heard of. I thought it would be something Intelligence-focused. On top of that, it's not only called the Trudeau Center, but the program description makes it sound like a politically correct cookie-cutter UN functionary assembly line. Maybe it's really better than it sounds - I can't judge without any experience with it.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Alain Perdrix posted:

This is probably a dumb, dumb question with a very obvious answer, and you might all just laugh at me, but here goes:

I travel a fair bit for work in the summers and operate my own businesses. Additionally, I'm a full-time student. Is there any conceivable way I could join the reserves? Apparently you can do weekend BMQ or something, but would I then be completely hosed when it came to BIQ/SQ or whatever?

I can't afford to give my work and work-related travel up, as I need them to live, and they represent a career that I've fought rather hard to establish. Are the reserves just not in the cards at all for me?

You can do weekend BMQ & SQ (I did :( ), but because they're only run on weekends they stretch out over a few months. So you need to guarantee that you'll be available for all those weekends for a few months straight.

And yes, at some point you will have to be able to set aside a few months to do your trades course (BIQ, etc).

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Simkin posted:

Then again, everything's more fun when you actually get to shoot it, rather than just humping it around for the sake of weight.

C9!!! :argh:

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Agent Escalus posted:

I'm on page 7 of this thread and intend to go through the whole thing. That said:

My Dad's got the type of connections that's allowing me to talk with a (retired) Colonel at the Beatty St. Battery in Vancouver next week. So out of curiosity I pose the question to you: what would YOU ask a Colonel? Before you enlisted, during, and after discharge?

(Pops did this because I've been thinking about joining the military for the past few months, and last week announced that I'm even more strongly considering it; I got my BA in English in 2006 and I've been out of work since February so 2-3 years commitment is welcome at this point, and my degree qualifies me for Officer school and I'm interested in management and very disciplined anyway, so why not?)

Ask him if he was ever in the ranks. If he was, see how that effected how he deals with soldiers/sailors/airmen. If you're thinking about joining as an officer, ask him about the hardest choice he ever had to make that dealt with the welfare of his men, and how he ended up making that choice. Ask him if he regrets anything from his career, and if there's anything he would have done differently.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Mr.48 posted:

Just talked to my unit and I'm definitely gonna go into supplementary reserve. For those who are interested, the supplementary reserve thing is just them keeping your information on file, so that if want to come back within 4 years you get to keep all your qualifications, rank, pay, etc.

You do have to fully clear out though and give back all your kit, which is a pain in the rear end I was hoping to avoid.

I think I'm going to do this too. I'd be glad to get rid of my kit. I have too much of it filling up my place.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

MA-Horus posted:

I have never met a person that didn't hate Shilo. It's such a hell-hole.

I knew one guy who liked Shilo, but it's because they let him drive the bulldozer in the winter.

Fraser CDN posted:

Yea sleep dep is so much fun. You get to do scenarios like road blocks, patrols where you get ambushed, rescue a downed pilot, look for weapons cache's, refugee camps gets raided and you have to go into clear it out. You live in the FOB and the FOB will get attacked daily and have people come up grenades saying they found them and they want money. People wanting food, medical attention, offering sexual favors in return for weapons. They also have people try and sneak in, or tear down the razor wire. At the end of the week there is a huge fire fight and you have to extract from the area and get back to Farnham. Along the way they ambush you and set IED's.

Holy poo poo that sounds awesome. I'd sign up to do that right now. That sounds like a really awesome sampling of what you'll actually see on deployment. My basic blew, by comparison.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Samu posted:

Gah, PAT is going to suck. I'm looking at February before I can get on SQ, and god knows when untill I can get on my trade course. I guess my mission now is to not get fat and lazy like half the armoured guys waiting for course.

You clearly have never worked with armoured crewmen before. They're getting you fat and lazy to prepare you for your course. They have standards to uphold.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Mr.48 posted:

gently caress you buddy, it's to protect us from shrapnel, we cant move around the vehicles in flak-vests :)

Edit: Not fat, but also leaving the armored corps.

It's also much safer if you're wedged tightly into your seat when the vehicle rolls over. You won't be bouncing around like those skinny infantry types.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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compressioncut posted:

RIMPAC 2004 - Sea King "broke down" on Maui. Crew suspiciously had golf clubs and more than the usual number of passengers (also w/golf clubs) on board.

this is the safest cover story in the history of cover stories

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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I've seen/done stupid poo poo. But as a reservist, most of the cock I got was pretty mellow. We had timed change parades (changing from full combats to DEU to PT strip back to combats, back to DEU, ad nauseum), we got woke up in the middle of the night for bunk inspections, and I got yelled at once :shobon:

MA-Horus posted:

Yeah, that was my LSVW/MLVW course(Someone else in here was on this one, and can attest to how loving miserable it was). A course that's supposed to involve sitting around for 8 hours drinking coffee, and the next few hours drinking. The course before mine hosed that up for us, and one of the instructors was a hard-core marathon runner. 15k runs and 8k ruck-marches for 3 weeks. You're not supposed to have broken ankles and blown backs on a driver wheel course.

that's literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard (and I was in the Army, so I have certainly heard stupid poo poo)

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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swagger like us posted:

Question for any regforce Int Ops here. Can anyone explain to me how the purple trade works in terms of postings? I understand as an Int Op you could be Air, Navy or Land, but at what point in your trades courses is this determined? Is the Int Op course the same for all trades or is there specific Int Op courses for Army, Navy and Air etc.?

Obviously postings is wherever the CF wants you posted. However, do you have any say in which element you get posted to? Can I select Army as my preferred element? (especially since Im attempting to CT from Infantry reserves)

Your 5's are divided into a common phase and an element specific phase. The element specific phases are specialized, so they aren't element in name only. From talking to guys, I think your element can effect your posting but they can be flexible - I knew air and navy guys working in army roles domestically and overseas.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Samu posted:

Seriously though I've decided that I'm never going to get drunk at smokers or go to Army bars on the Northside of Edmonton ever again.

This is advice everyone should follow. Especially at smokers. This isn't the old days. You can't just be a "wild guy off duty" anymore and still get good courses or deployments. Not after Somalia.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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My Spirit Otter posted:

Deployment schedules no matter how vague, shouldn't be posted on the internet

Yes don't spread this poo poo on the internet

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Keep in mind that Class B Permanent postings are frequently one of the first things to get cut when the government needs to save some money. There is very little job security in Class B's.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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I have the Combat jacket and its the best jacket I've ever bought. Got it at the PX in KAF for stupid cheap. I wish they would have had more there. I would have bought one of everything.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Does anyone know who makes the current desert socks (coyote in color with the blue top, about 9" tall)? I still have the four pairs I was issued with my desert boots and I think they're the best socks I've ever owned. I want to buy some for myself.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Morristron posted:

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/voyeurism-child-porn-and-firearms-charges-laid-against-edmonton-man-1.1098760

He's 1VP. I used to work with him, in fact. A couple of the pictures used for this story had him in uniform, including showing the cap badge. I know I'm a greasy civvie now, but that still pisses me off a very great loving deal.

These charges happen more than people realize with active duty soldiers as well. I've probably seen 3 or 4 in the Edmonton courts within the last year.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Simkin posted:

I have worked with him in a professional setting. I'm sure it's not verboten, but I'd still rather not say much about him. The photos showing him in uniform is a lovely deal, though, since he released last fall.

The pictures on the news look like they're from some kind of social media. It might be an assumption that they're from there by I'm going to say this is one more reason not to put pictures of yourself in uniform online. If you get busted for being a creep you're going to make everyone look bad.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Morristron posted:

I would argue that's a reason to not videotape women in dressing rooms, instead.

Yeah but creeps gonna creep

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Just talked to a guy from CFB Edmonton, he told me that there are something like 600 releases in the system for that base alone right now

Everyone's trying to get out before 1990's Round Two: Yeah It Really Can Get Worse

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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swagger like us posted:

This is my third year of having a CT to Int Op (and Comms Rsch) from infantry reserves but Im not holding my breath. Am I right in assuming its more difficult to get into because my application is put below regular force transfers into the trade? (since Int Op is VOT only, mostly). Sucks though, I speak Russian and have some university so I like to think im an okay candidate.

Yeah, that's my understanding. And your fancy Russian speaking might be okay but the more serious question is how good are you at colouring? For bonus credit, do you know how to burn DVD's?

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Twee, from my conversations with HUMINT operators, I would caution you that your language skills won't necessarily give you an advantage in selection. My understanding is that the selection is based more on your interpersonal skills. From what I've been told, it's a test you can't study for. Your language skills may be better suited for other positions like Communications Research. But if you're really interested in HUMINT, absolutely look into it. When I was overseas I don't believe you needed to even be an INT Op to get into it. I knew infanteers who did selection.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Frosted Flake posted:

I was trying to get into reserve intel and I was always told that it was a retirement trade and you couldn't get in off the street.

I joined off the street.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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stevobob posted:

I've been out of the reserves since September and I've now decided that the best course of action for my life would be to join the Air Force, first choice AESOP. Right now I fix cars/trucks/trailers in a shop and it's not horrible, but if I had to make this my career I'd probably just off myself now. Thoughts?

I was bunked in the same barracks as the AESOPs when we were each doing our trades training. They were super pumped about it. Seems like a great job if you're into technical work and you want aircrew pay. I seriously considered it after talking to them and their instructors.

Also those guys played more guitar hero than anyone I've seen before or since

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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MA-Horus posted:

You will never want a BHP after using the ones in the Forces. They are bad.

FffffFFFFFFFFFF

Be aware that my response here is coloured by the fact that I really like the Hi Power as a design.

They really are great pistols. But the ones we use suffer from all being over 65 years old. And the magazines are worse. Most failures you'll encounter while using the BHP in service will be magazine related. The design is excellent, except for the mag safety which was included as a feature for French military trials in the '30's. If you own your own, rip that garbage out. It's 100% removable with no ill effects.

Otherwise, it's a reliable and easy to shoot design that is the parent to most pistols available today.

Now, if we were procuring new pistols today (which apparently we are :rolleyes: ), would I buy Hi Powers? No. But for something designed in the early 30's and manufactured in the mid 40's, they've served us pretty well.

And having one overseas was a godsend. It was awesome not having to lug a C7 into the mess hall all the damned time.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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I qualified on mine twice and carried it overseas and only had one malfunction. I think a lot of people have bad opinions of them because they're using the pistols that have been abused in service for 65 years, not ones that are properly maintained with healthy magazines.

A lot of the pistols we had in stores at my unit were clapped out because they've been used every year and got poo poo kicked. The ones we had overseas were in pretty good shape.

MA-Horus posted:

They'll destroy them before they sell them. It's sad but true.

This is unfortunately true. The federal government is prohibited by law from selling surplus firearms or ammunition within Canada.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Lt. Jebus posted:

I liked the SIG pistols we have at work so much (despite the fact that they are also pretty old) that I bought a newer model for myself at home.

I only fired the BHP once on basic training like 15 years ago and all I remember was a stoppage so bad that the slide completely seized and despite hammering on it with a rubber mallet for 10 minutes the range staff couldn't get it working.

Yeah, the SIG's are nice but we've had them for about 1/3 as long as the HP's. They're great pistols too, though.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Simkin posted:

It's a nicely reliable gun IF you have non-lovely mags, but the ergos are still pretty terrible for anyone with larger hands, and if you fire off a few hundred rounds a day or more, you will end up with a fairly bruised or bleeding web between your thumb and index finger. Also, it still has a lanyard ring. :wotwot:

I have large hands and besides hammer bite, the ergos are amazing on that pistol. Controls are situated perfectly, the pistol points like an extension of your arm and the grip size is perfect for me. The only thing I'd change might be a bit longer of a trigger reach, but its still good for me.

And yes, the lanyard rings are badass. I giggled a bit to see that they're coming back into use again. The BHP: wait 65 years and it'll be cutting edge again.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Is it true they're dropping MCpl and going to Cpl/Sgt/SSgt? I hope not. I like that we were special snowflakes.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Navy uniform is the most stylin. Can you still have a beard in the navy?

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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swagger like us posted:

Look after your guys, you wouldn't make a guy run on a broken leg, so, this stuff needs to be looked after.

To be fair though, it took us decades to get over making guys run on broken legs so this whole mental health thing might take awhile.

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DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

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Holy poo poo that's one more good reason to be a pilot.

Hotels
Telling people you're a pilot
Sweet leather jacket

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