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Hyosho
May 9, 2006
The thing about the term "Islamist" is that it perpetuates the myth that all muslim terrorists are part of a sinister global network of terror masterminded by a James Bond-style villain in a hollowed-out volcano, as opposed to a hundred disparate groups with specific local grievances. Obviously there is some common ground (death to america إن شاء الل) but to use one blanket term is misleading and counter-productive.

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Hyosho
May 9, 2006
Ramirez' statistics are officially less honest than Orrin Hatch:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/21/orrin-hatch/who-are-uninsured-hatchs-take/

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Prokhor Zakharov posted:


I have no idea



Looks like the Pope attacking that woman who tried to tackle him

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
The mad hatter was perfectly sane, just incredibly selfish. He always got the clean cutlery and new plates and uneaten food. His behaviour only looked insane to Alice because she assumed (like all children, Alice is an instinctive communist) that everyone should get a fair share. Seen through the lens of class conflict, the "mad" hatter is driven entirely by rational self-interest. The March Hare performs much the same function as the middle class - afraid of losing what scraps the Hatter leaves behind, he helps maintain the system against those behind him like Alice who get even less.

Unfortunately Alice ultimately chooses to leave the table rather than overthrow a manifestly unfair system, but hey ho analogies only go so far

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

ToxicAsset posted:

Aren't air and water usually considered nationalized by default?

No, see, when something is controlled by private corporations, it's free to everyone, hence the FREE market. When something is nationalised, the government takes it away and locks it in a vault so no-one can have any.

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

SteadfastMeat posted:

If there was a way to privatise air it would have been done by now. Come to think of it, that might make a good setting for some sort of sci-fi novel.

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Jurgan posted:

The complaint is that we won't make a big deal out of this being a WAR WE'RE AT WAR PRE 9/11 MENTALITY, right? Funny, Greenwald wrote the perfect response to this just a few days ago.

Greenwald is so loving dumb it makes my head hurt. Internment without trial isn't "granting them political status" it's denying them even the basic protection of criminal status. No islamic militant is going to feel their cause validated by whether or not the US calls them a "terrorist", an "enemy combatant" or "prisoner 27496".

They're not "ordinary decent criminals" either Glenn, and treating them as such is taking a completely inappropriate theoretical framework and laying it over a multitude of political realities to which it doesn't apply and will ultimately lead to you making a massive loving hash of everything.

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Riidi WW posted:

muslim radicals specifically trumpet their status as "warriors" in a "holy war" and we are legitimizing that claim times a billion every time we proclaim they're too scary to come to our soil. america is a nation of little baby bed-wetters when it comes to terrorists and terrorists know that.

Whoops, you've fallen into the "terrorists think like this" elephant trap but don't worry, the entire media and political leadership of the west is in there with you so at least you'll have plenty to eat

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Zwiftef posted:

I don't understand you're obviously not arguing labeling them enemy combatants, do you think that the current criminal justice system can handle terrorists or do we need some new method of handling terrorists? From what I can tell, you agree with Greenwald but disagree with his language for no reason other than to be contrary.

I disagree with the notion that lumping the crotchbomber, Osama bin Laden, Iraqi insurgents, IRA gunmen, Guantanamo detainees and Palestinian suicide bombers in together as "terrorists" OR "lowly murderous criminals" is anything but a counterproductive media tactic designed only to appeal to a bloodthirsty and ill-informed domestic audience.

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
Up next on foreign policy anagrams:

US declares war on A Slave Lord in El Salvador, establishes Insane Kibutz In Uzbekistan, presents president of Columbia with A Cool IBM

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
why can't you kill your boss? :confused:

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Lamuella posted:

cartoonist was too loving ignorant to put "palindrome"

hate to break this to you...

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

CrumFUNist! posted:


well at least none of the other cartoonists in this thread are truthers



Look at me, I'm a political cartoonist

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Igiari posted:

When McVeigh blew up a huge loving building no-one profiled white ex-army guys buying trucks.

When the FBI said "hmm seems like most domestic terrorists are right wing white males" the Right threw a nut and claimed that Obama was drawing up a Fema Death camp list for conservatives

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Col. Mustard posted:

surprised he didn't label him as IRAQIS

911 Highjackers:

15 Saudis, 1 Egyptian, 1 Lebanese, 2 from union of Arab Emirates

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES = I UNDERESTIMATE A BRA

could we have the next underwear bomber right under our noses?

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
Schindler's List sucks tho

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

shadysight posted:

Next stage of global warming denial: It will be a good thing!

Oh they're waaaaay ahead of you. It's late and I can't find it right now, but one joker came out last year and said we should stop trying to combat global warming because historically cool periods had been far worse for humans than warm ones, so even if the planet heated by 6-10 degrees that's better than risking an ice age in the long term.

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Karl Rove posted:

this times 1000. him and krauthammer are the tooliest tools in the drawer, and they still support bush 100%

Don't forget Thomas Friedman


there's plenty of dumb smug conservative commentators but he's something special when it comes to being not just wrong, not just smug, but baffling with it

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

flublandDrussiavelt posted:

scott brown probably wouldn't pass the republican purity test, but he's definitely not 'closing in' on coakley, its token opposition.
Redhead sure is wearing a sexy little number for working on a rusty old truck

Nice nail polish as well

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

tacodaemon posted:

then whats the deal with that public policy polling poll that has him one point over coakley

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
Freebird, like Yeah Detroit, is a loving awesome name and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
Beatin' my own kids? MY BUSINESS, STAY OUT GOVT!

Someone havin' sex in another state? MY BUSINESS, THERE OUGHTA BE A LAW

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Luftvaffel posted:

I don't think spines twist like that, Muir. Is it that hard to draw an rear end at a 3/4 angle?

well these poor women are at least 38 if it's 20 years since they've been in the military, not to mention the infinite number of kids they've pumped out and the fact they've never worn more than flimsy, inadequate clothing. Poor things have probably got advanced osteoperosis

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Liberal_L33t posted:

Does anyone have that "They're nihilists. Kantian nihilists" Day-By-Day saved?





That "Later" in the last one originally read "Locke", but then someone told Muir that Locke was the founder of modern conservatism and he changed it

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

the best part about it is that this forces them to admit that these comments were bad when they've been defending them for years

ahahah no it doesn't

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
1: racism doesn't exist
2: racism does exist, but it's not a big problem
3: everyone is racist, what's the big deal?
4: what's wrong with being racist?
5: racism is just a way of bashing conservatives
6: democrats are the real racists
7: Black president? Go back to 1. Also Malia Obama looks like friend of the family ghetto trash

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

guidoanselmi posted:



poor yaakov

No-one called Goldstein has ever been a terrorist!

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

tacodaemon posted:

every industrialized nation other than the US has single-payer healthcare: this is what liberals actually believe (even though there's only like three countries with single-payer healthcare)

That's because single-payer is a horrible system and the fact that the american left idealise it as an impossibly unreachable utopian ideal just underscores how hosed you all are

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Gay Abortions posted:

I... but... what? This is either too offensive for my mind to comprehend or otherwise just plain gibberish.

Remember last year when white people called the ice storms "our katrina"?

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

guidoanselmi posted:

yeah this is more of a stretch.

i don't remember this being posted:



which is probably the most effective nobel prize comic i remember

This would only really be accurate if Obama had said anything other than "Look, sometimes you have to bomb the gently caress out of everything in sight"

The reason Obama's award was so embarrassing was because he was so blatant about his belligerent stand during his acceptance speech.

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Badger of Basra posted:

how many black conservatives are there in this comic

why do they all gravitate to these women and have countless children

Muir learned all he needs to know about black men from Wayans brothers films

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti
Redirected from United States Invasion of Haiti

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Frozen-Solid posted:



:unsmith:

Someone post the cartoon where uncle sam is teaching civilization to all the savages and the "good" ones are at the front being behaved (and, coincidentally, light-skinned) and all the "bad" ones are at the back refusing to accept his wisdom and christian guidance.


basically if anything an american cartoonist draws or a US politician says about Haiti gives you even a hint of an "Unsmith moment" then gently caress off because the only accurate cartoon w/r/t Haiti is one that shows uncle sam stamping on a black child's face and stealing her clothes

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
*oppresses, invades, exploits, occupies for two centuries because niggers can't be allowed to run their own affairs*

(quake happens)

"Oh, here have some disaster relief, you don't mind if we "secure" this airport, right?"

*is portrayed as the soul of compassion*

Hyosho
May 9, 2006


click for big and tell me anything has changed in american political discourse

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Frozen-Solid posted:

^ glad i'm not the only one


sure haiti's in the state it is because of all the lovely things countries like ours have done to it, but i have a hard time taking any message of sending aid to haiti as a bad one.

especially after reading the pages of filth in the freep thread about the tragedy and that terrible voodoo doll cartoon, seeing ANYTHING promoting our helping there is a breath of fresh air even if the final message is a bit misleading to reality


this however

lol

The US has consistently refused to send not just their normal foreign aid, but also has prevented Haiti from opening normal trade relations with both itself and anyone it can put pressure on. 100m dollars is a pathetic insult compared to the amount of money the US has literally stolen from one of the poorest countries on earth for centuries. Forgive me if I'm not at the front of the cheerleading squad for the white man's burden

Hyosho
May 9, 2006
An accurate cartoon would show uncle sam using a block of wood and a sledgehammer to snap a Haitian child's legs then offering her a band-aid when a tree falls on her head.

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Frozen-Solid posted:

which is why it's nice to finally feel like the country is doing SOMETHING, and hope this is maybe a step in the right direction and that aid will continue

is it terrible that it's taken a disaster like this is what it took to get the troubles in haiti noticed? yes, does that mean a bit of light can't shine out of the tunnel? gently caress no. you going to poo poo on everyone donating money to haiti now because they didn't do so before this event happened too?

Of course not, but I am going to poo poo on anyone basking in the warm glow of american self-righteousness when not a single media outlet, politician or public figure has mentioned the US' complicity in Haiti's troubles.

Hyosho
May 9, 2006

MasterSlowPoke posted:

what did America do to Haiti exactly, they don't teach you anything about the Caribbean other than it's a place to get duty free alcohol

well, you know what America's done to Cuba? Now imagine what they'd do to an even smaller socialist country where the inhabitants were blacker, poorer and if no-one in the world was watching, ever.

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Hyosho
May 9, 2006

Gaspar Lewis posted:

but... we are all going to die

and... we're all going to live