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d0grent
Dec 5, 2004



the Bunt posted:

So many dynamos is at least cool because it's a palindrome

Prog Doctor posted:

Also, no one's mentioned Don Ellis yet. His bands have put out some crazy tunes. For instance, on the album "Tears of Joy" there's a song called "Bulgarian Bulge". It's in 33/16. Basically anything you pick up from Don Ellis will be mathematically challenging and fun to listen to.



Anyone listen to that collaboration between Mars Volta and Hella?

I have mixed feelings about it. I mean... it sure does sound like Omar and Zach Hill in a studio together.

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WITNESS THE POWER!
Jun 13, 2009

Why don't you go get a glass of orange juice and spill it all over yourself like a big dumb baby



d0grent posted:


Anyone listen to that collaboration between Mars Volta and Hella?

I have mixed feelings about it. I mean... it sure does sound like Omar and Zach Hill in a studio together.

Yeah, it took me a while to warm up to it, but it was pretty good. The drums were a little low in the mix and I thought the synth bass was too muddy sounding, but it's an interesting album. I would definitely listen to a new El Grupo Nuevo album (they supposedly recorded 3 albums, but only released the one so far).

adeadcrab
Feb 1, 2006

by Ralp


They're waiting on Cedric to record vocals for the 2 other albums.

Sups
Aug 8, 2007

Jimmy Eat World Hunger

The new Bygones EP is really not as mathy as one would expect. Two of the most technical players in the genre went for a hardcore punk (I guess?) kind of sound. It was pretty fascinating, but I didn't really like the vocals/shouting.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

sets off a "weirdly specific fetish artwork" vibe

Mellomeh posted:

Landing on Land only did one EP but it was really good. One of the members is a goon whose username I have forgotten, and he posted it here several years ago. I can only find it on Last.fm nowadays.

It was raphandz/serch is BACK, the guy who does Satellite High now.

Yad Rock
Mar 1, 2005

~*u put ur fingers in other ppl's mouths all day, don't u doctor*~

Prog Doctor posted:

I'd say Math Rock is a type of Prog Rock. Prog can be long and drawn out, or a bunch of shorter songs with a constant theme throughout the album (concept albums), or it can just be songs with crazy time signatures.

Dream Theater, for example, does have many longer songs, but they also have a bunch of shorter ones with odd time signatures.

"Dance of Eternity", for one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dSztjpJNNk (6:14 is only "long" by pop standards)
or perhaps "Ytse Jam":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5OmzUEm504

But yes, the bands you'd tend to label "Math Rock" tend to be more aggressive than, say, Yes, or King Crimson (for the most part), the godfathers of Prog, in general. Though The Power To Believe has some of their "heaviest" stuff on it:

"Level Five"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujVNpbyImzU
"Happy With What You Have To Be Happy With"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8xLsZh2v2g (albeit, the "crazy stuff" is just alternating subdivisions of 5's and 6's to make a phrase of 11/8)
or "Elektrik"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wd3NUrBm_I

Get that Dream Theater poo poo out of this thread! Just because there's no hard and fast definition of math rock doesn't mean you can post your favorite bands in an attempt to shoehorn them into the conversation. Ugh, sheer noobery

Traitorous Leopard
Jul 20, 2009



Business Raptor posted:

I've heard Heavyheavylowlow described as math rock or mathcore or math whatever beefore.

man I love hhll, but I liked their earlier stuff better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCMcffz75fk (not as mathy, though, more metalcore imo)

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Traitorous Leopard posted:

man I love hhll, but I liked their earlier stuff better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCMcffz75fk (not as mathy, though, more metalcore imo)

I love this song. I've seen this band three times and I only know like three other songs in addition to this.

mastapasta
Jun 14, 2008

Om nom nom

Sups posted:

The new Bygones EP is really not as mathy as one would expect. Two of the most technical players in the genre went for a hardcore punk (I guess?) kind of sound. It was pretty fascinating, but I didn't really like the vocals/shouting.

I was a little disappointed that it wasn't very "math rock" at all. But I still enjoyed the EP, and the song titles.

I mean come on. When a Vegan eats a Vegan

Unfortunate
May 11, 2004


How about some instrumental math rock? Maybe not the techiest bands you've ever heard, but i think it can be nice to catch a break from the constant screaming in this genre.

-Shelter Red
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOMBa5vQ5cI
Some good friends who don't get enough credit for the well written music they make.

-Lite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4KN...4A3A217A3788F15
From Japan, recently saw these guys live and they absolutely blew me away. Who knew instrumental math rock could be cool with almost no distortion?

President!
May 3, 2006

A real ray of sunshine

Tera Melos is the greatest band that has ever been

and to add something to the thread, check out Planets

mastapasta
Jun 14, 2008

Om nom nom

President! posted:

Tera Melos is the greatest band that has ever been

Tera Melos is also the most amazing stuff to play in Audiosurf. SO MATH ROCK.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

I'm not sure if this sorta secret "supergroup" ORBS(members from Between the Buried and Me, Fear Before, Abigail Williams, Nightbear) would fall under this but they have a really spacey yet complex abstract psychedelic pop sound going on.

http://www.myspace.com/orbsband

All the songs are cool but Kid Cancer is my favorite!

d0grent
Dec 5, 2004




Gotta mirror the love for this band. Bassist is especially fun to listen to but this is great instrumental work all around.

the Bunt posted:

I'm not sure if this sorta secret "supergroup" ORBS(members from Between the Buried and Me, Fear Before, Abigail Williams, Nightbear) would fall under this but they have a really spacey yet complex abstract psychedelic pop sound going on.

http://www.myspace.com/orbsband

All the songs are cool but Kid Cancer is my favorite!

This is loving great thanks.

bionictom
Mar 17, 2009


Unfortunate posted:

-Lite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4KN...4A3A217A3788F15
From Japan, recently saw these guys live and they absolutely blew me away. Who knew instrumental math rock could be cool with almost no distortion?

love them so much. yeah, the bassist is definately the highlight in this band.

If you don't know them already, Toe are kinda similar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvcF...feature=related

Business Raptor
Jun 3, 2009



Traitorous Leopard posted:

man I love hhll, but I liked their earlier stuff better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCMcffz75fk (not as mathy, though, more metalcore imo)

I used to love their earlier stuff wayyy more, especially gently caress It!?. That being said, about a year ago I finally sucked it up and listened to Turtle Nipple and Toxic Shock more and my god is it ever amazing.

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Destiny.

I feel like I've ripped a whole through this genre's 90s output; just gave a listen to June of 44's two "highly regarded" albums and neither did it for me.

Might as well plug something a bit out of the way: U.S. Maple. Not exactly cookie-cutter time-signature, experimenting pioneers or anything (wouldn't label them solely as a Math Rock band either); certainly do fiddle with typical four-to-the-floor though and have got a place in your heart if your taste floats to the Don Cab section of "Math Rock".

Ambuletz
Sep 7, 2006
I love my brother very much.

i've seen some great bands posted, I have lots but let's see some international math rock:

good idea/bad idea (spain, mathy post hardcore-ish)
lobster (portugal, power duo)
billy chocolat (france, insane)
nuito (japan, awesome, totally unlike te or toe)
LITE (also japan)

and these dudes from oak forest, freudian slip, sign me up for 5/4 and 7/4, please!

America: Rumah Sakit; SWIMS; Them, Roaring Twenties; HEY!TONAL; By the end of tonight; auto!automatic!!; Sleeping People; dakota/dakota; ahleuchatistas

holy cow there are more, but this is the only music I really listen to these days. It's probably why I'm so crazy. HEY!TONAL is cool because:

quote:

HEY!TONAL is an experimental band comprising of Kevin Shea (Storm & Stress, Get The People, Talibam!, Coptic Light, People…), Mitch Cheney (Rumah Sakit, Sweep The Leg Johnny, Species Being, Greenness…), Dave Davison (Maps & Atlases), Alan Mills (Chii-saioto) and Theo Katsaounis (Weather, Locks, Joan of Arc, ZZZZ’s…). The sound of this ensemble combines in unconventional fashion to whip up a batch of deliciously accomplished mathy jazz-rock snacks. The results share common ground with both HEALTH and Don Caballero, via a novel route.

edit: i thought i checked well enough, i posted a couple repeats

Ambuletz fucked around with this message at May 5, 2010 around 00:00

d0grent
Dec 5, 2004



Ambuletz posted:

i've seen some great bands posted, I have lots but let's see some international math rock:

good idea/bad idea (spain, mathy post hardcore-ish)
lobster (portugal, power duo)
billy chocolat (france, insane)
nuito (japan, awesome, totally unlike te or toe)
LITE (also japan)

Lobster rules, LITE rules, gonna check out the rest of these guys later

MoaM posted:

Might as well plug something a bit out of the way: U.S. Maple. Not exactly cookie-cutter time-signature, experimenting pioneers or anything (wouldn't label them solely as a Math Rock band either); certainly do fiddle with typical four-to-the-floor though and have got a place in your heart if your taste floats to the Don Cab section of "Math Rock".

You shouldn't label any band solely as a math rock band.

Internet
May 27, 2004
Behold!!!

Alright, LITE has caught my attention. I've listened to Ghost Dance and human gift on the MySpace and I liked them both. Where do I start?

bionictom
Mar 17, 2009


Internet posted:

Alright, LITE has caught my attention. I've listened to Ghost Dance and human gift on the MySpace and I liked them both. Where do I start?

I think their latest (phantasia) is their best. Depending on your preferences you might start with this one, or get into Filmlets first, which is still very cool.

Ambuletz
Sep 7, 2006
I love my brother very much.

All right, here's a few more. Band name first, followed by some of their albums.

Sorry No Ferrari (The Get Down Syndrome, 2007)
33.3 (33.3, 1998; Plays Music, 2000)
You Slut! (Critical Meat, 2007)
El Hombre Trajeado (Skipafone, 1998)
We Followed Tigers (And Then We Were Killed; So Much For Summer, both 2004)


edit:: All of el hombre trajeado's albums are free, go to https://www.elhombre.co.uk

Ambuletz fucked around with this message at May 5, 2010 around 23:36

Medical
Apr 16, 2010

by T. Fine


Antarctic is a band you all should check out.
http://myspace.com/antarcticsounds

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything


Just a reminder that Tera Melos loving owns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR4JDrftESk

Patagonian Rats drops September 7th.

wlokos
Nov 12, 2007

...


The new Tera Melos is very disappointing. They've devolved into an awkward indie rock band or something, I'm really not a fan of the new sound.

post-natal tightening
Feb 24, 2009

oh no


Yo whudup.

30 seconds samples of Patagonian Rats up on Amazon

Lots of singing.

WITNESS THE POWER!
Jun 13, 2009

Why don't you go get a glass of orange juice and spill it all over yourself like a big dumb baby



Oh No Pigeons! posted:

Yo whudup.

30 seconds samples of Patagonian Rats up on Amazon

Lots of singing.

Hm, don't really know what to think. I was starting to dig The Skin Surf/Frozen Zoo because they're catchy and I thought they were somewhat ironic songs and the rest of the album wouldn't sound like them. If they're going to have lots of singing I'd prefer more subtlety like in Melody 7 and Last Smile for Jaron. I probably wouldn't have gotten into them if I had heard this stuff first instead of stuff like 40 Rods to the Hogshead. Needs less vocal-centric material and more genre-defying genius and some spastic mathy goodness. But it definitely doesn't sound terrible, I still can't wait to get it and give it a proper listen.

wlokos
Nov 12, 2007

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Everything I hear from Patagonian Rats makes me less excited for it. The whole sound of the album is so much flatter and less interesting than anything else they've done. I dunno, the older stuff is all so energetic and creative and wonderful and I'm just not sensing any of that on the samples that we've gotten so far.

I hope I'm wrong.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

listerine and mr. green

I know it isn't math rock at all but I found a very good video of Wavves with Zach Hill on drums. (hella drummer for those who don't know) and I figured a lot of you would enjoy it a lot.

http://www.baeblemusic.com/concertv...tel/Wavves.html

Enjoy it. He goes crazy on this simple music. That site also has a very good full concert video of Dosh. After watching it, I was sad that I didn't go see him perform a few months ago but I figured a one man band can't really be all that great to watch. Boy was I wrong.

post-natal tightening
Feb 24, 2009

oh no


Patagonian Rats is streaming on their bandcamp.

So far it's not bad by any means, just very, very different than any of their other stuff. But I guess we kind of already knew that.

wlokos
Nov 12, 2007

...


I'm not crazy about the new album now that I've heard it, but I guess it might grow on me.

On the plus side, I am still super excited to see Tera Melos (with Anamanaguchi!) in Brooklyn next month. Anybody else in the east coast should definitely try to make it to one of the shows they're playing because they usually like to ignore us so that they can go tour japan ten times in a row instead.

the great deceiver
Sep 23, 2003

why the feds worried bout me clockin on this corner/
when there's politicians out here gettin popped in arizona

I personally think Patagonian Rats is loving awesome but then again I love everything Tera Melos has ever released. I actually really enjoy Nick's vocals and I don't think they've lost their mathy-edge. You could hear the evolution of Nick's vocals in Complex and Idioms and I think it suits the group really well. Of course I loving loved the earlier albums and despite it being a little soon to say I really, really like Rats just as much as their older stuff. One of the main reasons why I like Tera Melos is because they are always willing to change and adapt their sound. Honestly poo poo would be way boring if they released nothing but Drugs to the Dear Youth-style albums. I think it's loving rad that they keep updating their sound and Rats is a good example of that.

Oh yeah if you haven't seen Tera Melos live...see them live. They're (usually) a grade-A live act and they're right about to go on a huge loving tour. Can't wait to see em in Sac.

Dog Jones
Nov 4, 2005



Medical posted:

Antarctic is a band you all should check out.
http://myspace.com/antarcticsounds

This is great man, thanks for hooking me up.

d0grent
Dec 5, 2004



I actually think the new Tera Melos is sounding great, feels like a little bit more structure was a good thing.

Anyway, if you haven't heard of Mutiny On the Bounty, you made a mistake. Check this song out, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MYe...feature=related

WITNESS THE POWER!
Jun 13, 2009

Why don't you go get a glass of orange juice and spill it all over yourself like a big dumb baby



the great deceiver posted:

Oh yeah if you haven't seen Tera Melos live...see them live. They're (usually) a grade-A live act and they're right about to go on a huge loving tour. Can't wait to see em in Sac.

I saw them in Sac last night as well and I concur with this recommendation. If you have the chance to see them during this tour, go for it.

The venue was small but it was a pretty good show, I had fun. They played with So Stressed, Carson McWirter and Religious Girls. It was a pretty diverse show. So Stressed reminded me of Health, Carson's acoustic set was so incredible and Religious Girls was much better than I thought they would be (I wasn't expecting such a crazy awesome tribal sound). Tera Melos played I think almost all of Patagonian Rats, plus a couple other songs like When Worms Learn to Fly. I was a little bummed they didn't play more old stuff, since they have the extra dude now, but I suppose since it was kind of the album release show so they had to expose people to the newest stuff. They definitely brought the Tera Melos energy though. I was right in the front, as to ensure complete eardrum obliteration and it was good stuff.

wlokos
Nov 12, 2007

...


My math rock radio show is starting back up for the semester through my college's radio station, in case any of you guys are interested. It's on mondays from 2-4pm, if you want to check it out just go to http://thebirn.com and click on the "listen now" button in the middle of the page.

spe
Aug 28, 2007

All Stocked Up

Ambuletz posted:

You Slut! (Critical Meat, 2007)

Ok, I'm loving retarded for this disc and I've got the band members on my facebook and if anyones interested they just posted:

You Slut! posted:

It may seem things have gone quiet on the YS! front, but we are mixing the demos of Medium Bastard very soon and then maybe we will 'leak' a couple of songs onto the intermilan for you listening pleasure/disdain (delete as appropriate).

Also Patagonian Rats is the business. The first 7 tracks are an unbelievably strong lineup and the rest has plenty of awesome bits as well.

Ben Carsons Ghost
Oct 27, 2007



Tristan Da Cunha
The page has a link to their Myspace, at which you can listen to songs. They sum up their sound best: "We play arty poo poo."

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

listerine and mr. green

Looks like Zach Hill just released his new solo cd FACE TAT

It is available here http://zachhill.bandcamp.com/ I'm listening to it now and it is great. A lot more enjoyable to listen to then his last solo album or his solo hella split cd.

Marnie Sterns self titled which he drums on also just came out.

Enjoy some great drums, and some great shredding.

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d0grent
Dec 5, 2004



Protest The Hero have new videos on their myspace page about the upcoming album.

Here's the first one:
//vimeo.com/12473761

Also someone mentioned Cinemechanica a couple pages back and they need to be brought up again because their drummer kicks more rear end than two donkeys in an MMA cage match and they rule:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmV1RGhO_JA

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