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tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005


I'm a new convert as well, only having seriously delved into their material about 5 or six months ago. For the life of me I can't find anything else that sounds quite like them. They are magic. There's a quality to their music that actually puts me places nostalgically despite not having listened to those songs at that time, if that makes any sense. The tone of the trailer video puts me somewhere in my youth that is both exhilarating and sad. I had goosebumps and a lump in my throat over the course of a stupid minute long teaser. Powerful stuff. Can not wait.

Here's the track listing:
1. Steel and Blood
2. Lies and Eyes
3. Diamond Lightning (trailer song)
4. Toska
5. Listing
6. Heaven Is A Ghost Town
7. Empty Party Rooms
8. Zeros
9. Lonely Gun
10. Cold Company

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Good soup!
Nov 1, 2010

balls


Lipstick Apathy

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Also, seeing them perform Highly Refined Pirates in its entirety was just about the greatest thing.

That concert was amazing, saw them when they were in Houston. Not sure if they followed the same format as everywhere else, but ending with Pachuca Sunrise was loving beautiful.

And I'm definitely of the opinion that Omni grows on you in time, and I honestly think Fooled by the Night is one of the best songs they've ever done.

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

I've really been digging this group called Riding the Diplodoc. They're some russian group that somehow managed to get some great recordings even though they aren't signed to a record label and there's really not anything about them on the internet. I've never really listened to math rock before but they're loving awesome.

http://soundcloud.com/riding-the-di...he-dipodoc-good

http://soundcloud.com/riding-the-di...-diplodoc-t-800

They have both of their ep's on soundcloud.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything


Awesome Welles posted:

and I honestly think Fooled by the Night is one of the best songs they've ever done.

I couldn't agree more.

I've seen them twice and my pleas for Fooled by the Night always go unanswered

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

Honestly, though,
you have played the game for a long time.

Don't you have anything else to do with your time?


The time I saw them play Highly Refined Pirates live (I've seen them live 4x and I think this was #3), there was this dude standing next to me who yelled out "HEY IS THAT A NINJA UP THERE" really loudly every time there was a brief moment of them not playing, whether it was during a break in a song or between songs. We were standing front row, so he was yelling it like right in their faces. They obviously heard him but just weren't going to play it, and yet he wouldn't stop throughout the entire show. He was being kind of an obnoxious douche about it.

What was worse is that I saw the setlist before the show and knew it wasn't on there and they weren't going to play it, so it got especially grating after like the 5th time he yelled it

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007


I wavered between posting this in the Scenecore thread or the Math Rock thread, but I think they belong here. The new Icarus the Owl album, Love Always, Leviathan is absolutely absurd, in an awesome way. They're a mix between pop-punk and math-rock (hear me out on this one), with some absurd time signature fuckery going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MKvsesN8F4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ5M9Y0muf4

They put out an uneven full length before this one, but the EP they put out last year, Qualia, really got me stoked on this full-length, and it's shattered my expectations. Great, catchy as gently caress songs with awesome instrumentation. They've got a very unique and fresh sound that they honed to perfection on this album.

deadwing fucked around with this message at Jun 22, 2012 around 22:37

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Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything


Listen to Lonely Gun from Minus the Bear right now!

It's certainly different from Omni, but I'm going to need to fester on this for a while.


I don't hate it.

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

Honestly, though,
you have played the game for a long time.

Don't you have anything else to do with your time?


I'm not sure how I feel about this yet. I can't really tell whether I like it or dislike it after one listen.

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


fuck money
smoke bitches
get trees


It's just about what I've been expecting. Minus the Bear has been moving towards that boring homogenized pop style for like three albums. I'm a little disappointed they're not innovating or whatever, but I can't say I'm surprised.

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

Honestly, though,
you have played the game for a long time.

Don't you have anything else to do with your time?


The instrumention makes it sound like (recent) Fall Out Boy or Cobra Starship or Hellogoodbye or some stupid poo poo like that, so I'm leaning more towards dislike than like at the moment.

Rolodex Propaganda
Oct 4, 2003

Fall in love with spines

this might be worse than omni. pirates and botch 4lyfe.

Good soup!
Nov 1, 2010

balls


Lipstick Apathy

-Atom- posted:

Listen to Lonely Gun from Minus the Bear right now!

It's certainly different from Omni, but I'm going to need to fester on this for a while.


I don't hate it.

Why the hell didn't they just put out the song in that album teaser? I mean this is just...really mediocre.

tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005


I don't know, I finally got a chance to listen to it, and the song got my feet tapping like they always do. They've definitely changed over the years, some would say for the worse, but I'd like to think every band's sound changes a bit over the span of 6 albums. It sounds distinctly like Minus The Bear despite being different from their earlier stuff. We'll see how it holds up after the album comes out and I obsessively listen to it 50 times.

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

Honestly, though,
you have played the game for a long time.

Don't you have anything else to do with your time?


Air Julio posted:

It sounds distinctly like Minus The Bear despite being different from their earlier stuff.

The vocals do. And the drumming (except the drum machine parts). Everything else? I don't know how you're seeing that.

tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005


Listening to it again, the guitars are obviously fuzzed out, and it sounds like a wah pedal is getting used among some other effects. I'd argue that if you took those effects away, the playing style is still very similar. I could see a lot of the riffs and hooks being used clean or acoustic if needed. All the odd start/stops are there. I dunno, I don't hate it.

I should say that I don't hate Omni as much as most fans do. That might help put my opinion in perspective.

Ambuletz
Sep 7, 2006
I love my brother very much.

Rename this thread "The Mathrock/Minus the Bear Thread: We're bored of variety"


Lines Across Maps from across the pond released a new EP: http://linesacrossmaps.bigcartel.co...ond-thoughts-ep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYj-L1BLV6M

Suffer Like G Did, jazzy, good friends with Tangled Hair, both are loving amazing, new EP coming out in August: http://sufferlikegdid.bandcamp.com/album/orange-ep

Brownie Mountain representing Chicago released their full-length: http://browniemountain.bandcamp.com/

Two Knights is loving sick: http://twoknights.org/releases

maybe sometime in this life we'll see Pretend's new album

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003

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Air Julio posted:

Listening to it again, the guitars are obviously fuzzed out, and it sounds like a wah pedal is getting used among some other effects. I'd argue that if you took those effects away, the playing style is still very similar. I could see a lot of the riffs and hooks being used clean or acoustic if needed. All the odd start/stops are there. I dunno, I don't hate it.

I should say that I don't hate Omni as much as most fans do. That might help put my opinion in perspective.

I guess they played a couple of songs from the new album in Detroit last night. I'm going to see them in Columbus tonight and am pretty excited to see how the new album is shaping up.

I also don't hate Omni. I just enjoy it a little differently than I would enjoy Highly Refined Pirates or Planet of Ice.

e: They played Steel and Blood, Lonely Gun, and Diamond Lightning. All 3 well composed, but it would seem boring by most, including myself. I think I liked Diamond Lightning more in the trailer. I'm hoping that they just played the easily adjustable ones to gear up for release. We shall see.

Full Set List:

1) Knights
2) Thanks for the Killer Game of Twister
3) The Thief
4) Throwin Shapes
5) Diamond Lightning (Infinity Overhead)
6) Drilling
7) Pachuca Sunrise
8) Steel and Blood (Infinity Overhead)
9) Ice Monster
10) Hold Me Down
11) Loaded Gun (Infinity Overhead)
12) Absinthe Party at the Fly Honey......

As can be seen from the above, it was a great show. Not as good as when I saw them at Roseland in Portland a couple of years ago, but you can't really play for 2 and a half hours when you aren't the headliners

SquirrelyPSU fucked around with this message at Jul 16, 2012 around 03:38

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Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything


Here's the album version of Diamond Lightning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it-a56rI1Gk

Really awesome, and I just pre-ordered the new album along with some tickets to the Regency Ballroom.

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

Honestly, though,
you have played the game for a long time.

Don't you have anything else to do with your time?


-Atom- posted:

Here's the album version of Diamond Lightning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it-a56rI1Gk

Really awesome, and I just pre-ordered the new album along with some tickets to the Regency Ballroom.

Now this is more like it! I hope the rest of the album is this good. Well, besides Lonely Gun because we already know how that one turns out. Why even put that on the same album as this?

Good soup!
Nov 1, 2010

balls


Lipstick Apathy

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Here's the album version of Diamond Lightning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it-a56rI1Gk

Really awesome, and I just pre-ordered the new album along with some tickets to the Regency Ballroom.



loving awesome. So stoked to see these guys in Houston again in a few months.

tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005


Oh man that song is so loving good. Can't wait for that new album.

Lines across maps are really good as suggested above. Their newest ep is on spotify if anyone's interested.

Found a band called Proceed and they're pretty cool. I don't know how mathrock-ish they are, but they're pretty awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJZ-...feature=related This is far from their best song, but the only real video of theirs I could find.

Starting a station based on them turned up this other band called Blitz Kids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geC9lqkLAvk Again, I don't know if either of these bands belong in here, but I like 'em so give them a listen, maybe.

McFoxigator
Jun 13, 2011

Life is full of twicky decisions...


How about Console Warriors? They've been described as a sort of Two Door Cinema Club and Minus the Bear cross. People who like Bloc Party and MtB tend to like them a lot. They have a mathrocky sound with some interesting tempo changes and some great guitar and drum complexities but they also have that catchy indie dance beat going on. They've recently been stuck in my head quite a lot as Minus the Bear is one of my all-time favourite bands.
Some good songs to check out are:
Vicious Fishus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz8q_xllU0M
Starship '84:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obvIF52gXXA
and Pyjama Party:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzKiqkBb6qM

imonfireahhhh
Dec 28, 2006
AC/DC sucks.

Hey guys, my band Thinguins(f.k.a FRIENDS) finally finished working on a song, maybe you'd like to hear it?

http://soundcloud.com/dangyouwool/p...th-do-us-part-1

we're going to do some more soon, and get a legit bandcamp going after we mix it better. hope everyone digs it.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything


They released Steel and Blood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPEh4tf40ro

It's kinda fun, and in the same vein as Lonely Gun.

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

Honestly, though,
you have played the game for a long time.

Don't you have anything else to do with your time?


Meh

Did they just put Diamond Lightning on this album to have a one track reminder of how they used to sound (very good) and the rest of it will just be their new sound (not as good)?

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Ready to eat me, sir!


-Atom- posted:

They released Steel and Blood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPEh4tf40ro

It's kinda fun, and in the same vein as Lonely Gun.

This honestly sounds like a half-assed Motion City Soundtrack song. I'm not liking any of their new stuff much at all and that bums me out :\

tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005


Can certainly understand people not liking that new one but I kinda dug it. Bought my tickets to see them in Boston in September. So pumped.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003

UH OH GEORGE, LOOKS LIKE I'M A BIG DUMBASS!!!

ASK ME ABOUT COMING IN DEAD LAST IN THE GIP 2016 FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUE!!!

I LITERALLY CAME IN BEHIND SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T UPDATE THEIR ROSTER ONCE!!!!

YOOOOOGE!!!!


-Atom- posted:

They released Steel and Blood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPEh4tf40ro

It's kinda fun, and in the same vein as Lonely Gun.

It sounded much better live.

WITNESS THE POWER!
Jun 13, 2009

Why don't you go get a glass of orange juice and spill it all over yourself like a big dumb baby



A friend of mine recently released his band's first official album for free, and if I'm not mistaken, I think it belongs here. They're really young, but I think they're very talented and creative and they put a lot of work into their music so I want to support their efforts. Give it a listen/download and see if you like it, it's some really fun stuff and I know they'll appreciate it.

http://www.formeranimals.bandcamp.com

Neeb
Oct 21, 2010


WITNESS THE POWER! posted:

A friend of mine recently released his band's first official album for free, and if I'm not mistaken, I think it belongs here. They're really young, but I think they're very talented and creative and they put a lot of work into their music so I want to support their efforts. Give it a listen/download and see if you like it, it's some really fun stuff and I know they'll appreciate it.

http://www.formeranimals.bandcamp.com

This is really cool - love the jazzy feel it has.

Phe
Aug 22, 2012


Personally, I am in two minds with respect to Mathcore. Protest the Hero sits comfortably in my Top 10 bands, however little else within the genre is that appealing. It suffers from the same troubles that plague Prog Rock or Prog Metal in that they are taking a conventional element of music, in this case consistent time signature, pitch etc, and mixing it up. This can work effectively, and create a great dynamic and sound, however, like the music itself, success here is rather sporadic.

But as I said, Protest the Hero are amazing, and although their newest album was mostly a disappointment, I hope you will all join me in listening to C'est La Vie, the saving grace of Scurrilous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZ-eKBJ9dw

It is never my fault. Ever. Yes officer, I did indeed burn down that orphanage, but it still isn't my fault.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Phe posted:

Personally, I am in two minds with respect to Mathcore. Protest the Hero sits comfortably in my Top 10 bands, however little else within the genre is that appealing. It suffers from the same troubles that plague Prog Rock or Prog Metal in that they are taking a conventional element of music, in this case consistent time signature, pitch etc, and mixing it up. This can work effectively, and create a great dynamic and sound, however, like the music itself, success here is rather sporadic.

But as I said, Protest the Hero are amazing, and although their newest album was mostly a disappointment, I hope you will all join me in listening to C'est La Vie, the saving grace of Scurrilous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZ-eKBJ9dw

You didn't really explain what about mathcore turns you off. Also, I would call Protest the Hero a prog metal band before I'd call them mathcore.

anyways, is anyone else creaming their pants in anticipation of Rolo Tomassi's third? After Cosmology they have become an incredible obsession of mine. I wish they would come to America.

the Bunt fucked around with this message at Aug 22, 2012 around 03:34

Windows 98
Nov 13, 2005

CAUTION: I make bad posts


edit: nothing to see here... move along

d0grent
Dec 5, 2004



Rolo Tomassi kinda sounds like iwrestledabearonce tried to be Converge. Can't really get behind the vocalist. Their bassist has a great heavy sound though.

Phe
Aug 22, 2012


the Bunt posted:

You didn't really explain what about mathcore turns you off. Also, I would call Protest the Hero a prog metal band before I'd call them mathcore.

Allow me to explain further. First lets assume that Protest the Hero is mathcore. The OP seems to think so, and I am inclined to agree. Genre seems to be an ever-shifting construct, but regardless Protest the Hero has those elements that define mathcore. So for the purpose of the conversation, they will be defined as such.

Mathcore is a messy genre. Music often has a set formula: this beat, at this tempo, with this pitch and this volume. Consistent, uniform, palatable. But many artists try to break away from this formula. Prog and mathcore are good examples of deviation from the expected. The danger here is changing too much or too drastically. A song can easily degrade into a messy chaos of noise and discomfort. You have shifting signatures, tempo changes and clashing vocal pitch all melded together in a violent assault of sound. It takes true skill to change the fundamentals of music to such a great degree, and still please the listener. Whenever I listen to a new genre of music, I inevitably filter through a giant heap of trash until I find those few diamonds that match all my preferences. No genre is exempt from this, not even metal, that musical force which drives much of my existence. But it seems that the trash pile is so much larger when I come to mathcore, and the diamonds much harder to find.

As always, personal preference drives what we enjoy listening to. And whilst mathcore will never be my favourite genre, it does have some saving graces.

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110

You might like Between The Buried and Me at that point. They've got parts where they break into really mathy sounding stuff, but they're pretty solidly Prog Hardcore a lot of the time.

Rageaholic Monkey
May 31, 2005

Honestly, though,
you have played the game for a long time.

Don't you have anything else to do with your time?


Stream Minus The Bear's new album Infinity Overhead for the next 24 hours at their website: http://minusthebear.com/

It's...alright. There's Diamond Lightning, which is outstanding. And "Empty Party Room" which is Minus The Bear's take on Pinback's Non-Photo Blue. Not that this one is a great song, but I thought that was interesting. More interesting than the rest, which are filled with decent parts that are merely decent. Nothing mindblowing here.

There are a few really cool guitar parts here and there, but the album isn't chock full of them like it could (should) be.

There aren't more flat out bad pop-punk ripoff songs like Lonely Gun, fortunately, but almost all of the songs on this one are forgettable. Can't see myself feeling the desire to listen to any of them again except for those 2 I mentioned by name.

edit: Okay, what the gently caress is this. Cold Company sounds like something straight off Planet Of Ice and it rules. Why did they make the last track really good but most of the ones leading up to it not so good? I feel like if the whole album sounded like this, it would've been way better and much more memorable.

edit2: Oops, Non-Photo Blue by Pinback. Not AFK.

Rageaholic Monkey fucked around with this message at Aug 23, 2012 around 17:49

tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005


I really like the album on first listen. They just have an enjoyable sound that just makes me feel good. Lies and Eyes, Toska, and Heaven is a Ghost Town are early favorites. Just now listening to Cold Company and really digging this, too. Not their best work, but certainly not bad at all. Like I said, their overall sound is enjoyable, even if I don't love certain tracks. Can't wait to have an actual copy of this and listen over good speakers.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

d0grent posted:

Rolo Tomassi kinda sounds like iwrestledabearonce tried to be Converge. Can't really get behind the vocalist. Their bassist has a great heavy sound though.

I can see the Converge comparisons but I really don't think they are similar to IWABO at all except that they both have female vocalists. I always describe Rolo Tomassi to people as HORSE the Band meets Number Twelve Looks Like You

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McFoxigator
Jun 13, 2011

Life is full of twicky decisions...


Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Stream Minus The Bear's new album Infinity Overhead for the next 24 hours at their website: http://minusthebear.com/

Minus the Bear is so good. I'm really trying to get them to play my university. Their honorarium is incredibly low.

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