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Overall the feeling I get playing with this thing is really close to how I felt with my old Xbox running XBMC back in the day. It tries to do a lot and some of it is really unpolished if not outright broken. The polished stuff feels limited though so it's kind of catch-22. I fiddled around with some apps on the main page, some work great but others are randomly broken. I definitely had some where the video just refused to play but since they were in the app box I couldn't just pop over to the website and see if the videos listed were even working on the site. The Boxee software supports homebrew apps too, if you happen to figure out that "repository" thing and get the big one added (there is really only one worth adding, that person adds all the apps from the others listed). Even then there are only about as many homebrew apps as there are 'regular' apps, and the homemade ones are way more broken more often. The browser is kinda poo poo. There is no option to zoom or favorite a page, both of which the Wii had for gently caress's sake. The little remote is nice but there's no lighting, it runs on a tiny battery (so I'm obviously not meant to be tapping on it constantly) and I should be able to just bookmark a goddamn thing. If you want to be able to read sites switch manually back to a lower resolution (720p looks ok for me) and then switch back when you go back to streaming HD poo poo locally. An ad-heavy page like Ustream is going to stutter like hell so you may as well not even bother. Even if you do the page will invariably lock up after a while and either stop showing video or stop playing audio. That leads to the next issue, there's some sort of leaking going on. A crashed app or a hung page sometimes will make the whole box malfunction until you soft reset it. Sometimes a stuck web page will reload fine if you back out one page and go forward, other times you can get things so screwed up that you had better just reset. I haven't figured out the whole Samba thing with Win 7 yet, it keeps asking me for passwords on poo poo. I'll try the suggestions in that thread later but it's not a really comprehensive instruction from what I can tell. I already have Tversity and Playon running anyway so I just tried it out with those. I haven't got anything worth indexing but the videos I was having audio issues with on my Xbox played fine on the BB. Is there some benefit to me getting the Samba shares set up? I am not sure if it is even worth dicking around with. Also I know this isn't really their fault, but I hate the stupid Leanback they put as the Youtube app. The 'your feed' always posts a bunch of friend-of-friend type poo poo and there's no option to just go through my subscriptions. I will probably just stick with clicking subscriptions off the main page through the browser. The 'main' interface (tv shows, movies) is probably where they put in the most effort, I guess. I am sort of spoiled by Netflix's rating/suggestion code so I'm not terribly enthusiastic about just browsing through the categories. From what I could tell though there's plenty to look through there even though Netflix, Vudu and Hulu are all missing for now. I got so distracted by the other crap I was exploring that I haven't really given this part of the package much attention though. I did notice it pulls Fancast (cable company) pages as options so I imagine it's going to look super redundant if they get Hulu in there too. Also for some retarded reason the RSS feeds you plug in on the Boxee web site don't seem to actually propogate to the machine. I see some sort of option in the settings for web server access, I will have to try that tonight and see if I can paste poo poo in from my computer.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2010 18:55 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 12:28 |
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drat, guess I am lucky all I am getting is occasional stuttering and freezeups, I've always been able to power cycle the thing without bricking it. Though if it powers on at all try accessing the web page on port 8080, if that's still working you can download the logs from there. Got the Samba shares working and I'm pretty drat impressed with the quality. I only had one video that stutters and I got some Blood Bowl videos that really look nice and readable in 720p. Hell, the thing even manages to play the audio off of .wtv files, which surprised the hell out of me given it's that proprietary Windows Media Center format. Of course the video didn't work but I'm thinking someone smarter would be able to fix that up with some sort of tweak. You can also turn on Windows file sharing on the Boxee itself, so you can move files freely over your network between any storage you plugged in and your computer. Pretty drat nice. It's been a long time since I looked at XBMC apps so I just discovered the Navi-X thing, it's worth taking a look at that app just for the sheer amount of stuff people post on it. Just go into the pop-over guide screen, pick Apps then Repositories, and enter in https://www.navi-x.org/boxee as a new item (go up to the plus icon). If you sign up on http://navix.turner3d.net you can set up your own playlists too, so you can slap your own RSS feeds in there. At least it seems to me like Navi-X handles RSS way better than the Boxee's built in RSS app. I even put my Google Reader feed in there and it sent me to the web page when I clicked on a news story in the list. Of course if you don't want to share that poo poo to the world make sure to check the private checkbox.
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# ¿ Nov 17, 2010 08:25 |
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LiquidFusion posted:What did you do that ended up working? I have the same problem, but everything I try turns out to be a complete failure It randomly stopped working on me at one point but that Live ID helper seemed to be the culprit, even without rebooting to finish uninstall it just magically started working again after getting rid of that crap. I don't know why Live ID is messing with file sharing anyway, that's some poo poo right there. Also reiterating to get the Navi-X thing, drat there is so much media posted on that it's scary.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2010 19:38 |
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The drat Windows Live ID Sign-in Assistant keeps reinstalling itself. I think Pidgin is to blame since I have an MSN account on there, and it gave me an error when I stopped that service (though it didn't fix the sharing again until I uninstalled the program). So yeah, until they update the version of Samba on your box you'll have to choose between Boxee and MSN. To be fair it was a version update from this year so it's not like they're horrifyingly out of date, just months out of date. Also if you want to telnet in and poke around the box (and break it if you're a dummyhead): http://boxeeboxwiki.org/wiki/TelnetD I get Siteadvisor warnings on that site but it just looks like a plain old wiki to me, so I'm not sure what the beef is.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2010 18:57 |
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BorderPatrol posted:It's RF, and they're said they eventually plan on selling it seperately.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2010 23:54 |
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Well, the main problem is all that stuff you mentioned is hidden under the back/menu button after you go into something else. None of it is accessible under those nice friendly buttons at the main screen and the software makes no effort to educate you on it. For a box that tries to be a little more non-techie friendly that kind of stuff is bad. Some controls to expand a flash movie on a page to full screen at will and possibly control which flash movies actually load and run would both be nice. Of course a full-screen-ify button would probably need another remote button and they've cornered themselves on that one. Even simple zoom controls would help as far as arrowing over and trying to hit that usually tiny fullscreen button on the flash movie itself. As far as web browsers go, other than having support for a later version of Flash, the Boxee browser is less feature-rich than the Wii.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2010 19:25 |
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Don Lapre posted:The browser was never meant for web browsing, simply as a fallback for flash content.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2010 20:25 |
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Mine has crashed and rebooted when I tried scanning something it didn't like. Go into the options and remove your sources and see if it calms down, then try to trace it to which share is making it blow up.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2010 18:21 |
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Well that one you stumped me on, I am far too lazy to have any Bluray files anyway. The actual forum post said "The version is currently in testing, and if all is well in the next couple of days, you will receive it as an automatic software update" so... yeah, I expect it in about a month
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2010 21:03 |
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Is the Revo even a viable option? I admit to knowing next to nothing about HTPCs but just trying to Google around for one so I'd have something to be bitter about, all I'm finding is out-of-stock pages and no-name webshops. I'm satisfied with the Boxee so far, warts and all. I don't have a surround sound setup or any Blu-ray files, and the playback capability is at least better than the Xbox 360 I was using for UPnP streaming before. The only thing that really annoys me is the browser, which is improvable but I understand why they might not bother. There doesn't seem to be a rush of people moving to make apps for it like the old XBMC days though, so I'm not sure how much the library will stack up to other devices later on. Sort of like PlayOn, they had a rush of plugins and scripts being added monthly when it was new, and now most of those are dead and the influx of new or updated apps is barely a trickle.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2010 19:58 |
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Ziploc posted:People really need to test drive Boxee software on their laptops. If you like it on your laptop/PC, it will be perfect on their TV with a cheap PC or a Boxee Box. I really kind of hate the keyboard on the back of the BB remote, the keys are mushy and you can't see it much in the dark. Probably worse is that the layout seems to fight off touch-typing with the smattering of active keys the same size as the regular and the bottom row shifted one from the position I'm used to on other mini-boards. I still don't regret getting the Box and they are making improvements, but the Roku is great right now and at a pretty irresistible price point. Hell, get the one without wireless and save even more since wireless is pretty much poo poo for streaming video. Of course if everyone waits who knows how long they will be around to improve the drat Boxee...
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2010 18:51 |
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Ziploc posted:I like the idea of the remote. But I have a feeling the tiny keys labeled with gray type on gray keys on a black remote will be cumbersome for my father who will use this more than any of us and will usually be in a dark room.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2010 00:29 |
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Pissflaps posted:What kind of remotes are you used to? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00480OSVK/ http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004DMRJTG/
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2010 21:46 |
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^^^ Yeah haha good luckquote:two broken boxees
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2010 22:07 |
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Yeah, they're really a small software company so they have jack all for a support team. I only found out about the recovery mode thing by reading their forums as it is, even though it's on their knowledge base it's kind of buried. If you have more than one HDMI socket or cord to try do that as well, but you're probably just poo poo out of luck. Unfortunately D-Link makes the hardware and their support is not known for being super either.
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2010 23:21 |
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Not much hope of getting the OP updated, hell, it has screenshots from the PC version and the current UI doesn't even look like that. Looks like he kind of gave up on it in September. Would be nice if Boxee had stickied a thread with the common crash bugs on their forum instead of leaving people to stumble through other complaints to find it. I think they might even have a bug repository somewhere but I couldn't find the link again. Of course hopefully they fix that upnp one the next time they update, whenever the hell that is. Some people are still wishing for one at the end of the year but I'm not holding my breath.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2010 19:07 |
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On the bright side I can hope that since they took so much time to put in Vudu and Netflix that they do it right and integrate it with their library. Being able to look through all the media at once is the only thing they have that I don't see others doing yet, even though they still have a ton of content trapped away in apps.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2011 09:20 |
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AlexF posted:Watching Walking Dead everything looked and sounded great but during the quieter moments I noticed the fan. It's not loud, just annoying. I turned on my PS3 for comparison. It is way louder than the Boxee box, but this high pitched noise cut right through it. I figure that's the reason it was sent back originally and hope a new model will fix that.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2011 22:10 |
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MMD3 posted:so I just started setting up my new Boxee and am trying to point it to my local files. Why is it prompting me for a username/password when I select my PC (it's showing up as a samba share)? I made sure my media folders are shared with everyone and can't figure out why it wants a username/password. If you're on win 7 you may also want to make sure you have a guest account, that seems to be another issue that affects it besides the crazy multiple-screens-of-sharing-settings crap.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2011 10:22 |
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MMD3 posted:can anyone tell me if there's a way to take a thread here on SA, say the post youtube videos thread and turn it into an RSS feed that can be fed to Boxee and strip everything but the videos posted?
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2011 18:40 |
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MMD3 posted:ruh-roh, what does this mean for Boxee Box sales? Goddammit. vvv Well, in some perverse way that's a relief. I like to watch a lot of flash content anyway. I could save some of it and serve it from the computer but that wouldn't help with the justin.tv and ustream stuff I like to watch. CrashCat fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jan 21, 2011 |
# ¿ Jan 21, 2011 20:00 |
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VERTiG0 posted:Anybody else think the Youtube Leanback and VEVO apps are absolute loving garbage? Tremendously sluggish performance and the worst loving UI ever. I realize they insist the browser is a fallback, but I really don't think it's too unreasonable to ask for some bookmarks
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2011 00:28 |
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devmd01 posted:BUT THE BOXEE BOX DOESN'T SUPPORT MY RIDICULOUS EDGE CASE THAT MAYBE 5 PEOPLE IN THE WORLD HAVE, I EXPECT PERFECTION FROM A DEVICE THAT PLAYS EVERYTHING RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX FOR ONLY $200 I AM SENDING MINE BACK TO AMAZON
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2011 19:51 |
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^^ The naming thing is a pretty infamous problem with this box, I would start with http://boxee.zendesk.com/entries/42693-correctly-naming-local-media-files and if you can't get their examples to work hit up jira.boxee.tv and look through the issues people are having with it. Personally I don't have anything worth scanning so I haven't wrestled with it. Fatal posted:Holy poo poo there's a ustream app? Sweet.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2011 22:29 |
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ThePhreak posted:(regarding user repos)
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2011 18:57 |
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devmd01 posted:That would take a good bit more horsepower to do pan/scan/whatever than I think the boxee box is capable of. CrashCat fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Apr 19, 2011 |
# ¿ Apr 19, 2011 02:02 |
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VERTiG0 posted:Anybody know of an alternative way to control the Boxee Box other than the included remote? Using the d-pad to navigate websites for streaming content is the most painful loving experience ever, especially when the browser lets every popup ever go all the gently caress over the place and oh god i want to shoot the fuckers who made this poo poo uuuuuuugh fix it and give me a remote with a small thumb trackpad at least or a loving joystick i dont care but get rid of this piece of poo poo d-pad its god loving awful
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2011 02:33 |
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VERTiG0 posted:Holy poo poo you weren't kidding.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2011 21:20 |
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Wish their updater didn't check once a millennium by default. I was still struggling with the old bad foreign character support and flash ad shittiness last night and didn't know I could update. So yeah, it took them about half a year to fix poo poo that the browser on my PC has no trouble with. Probably my fault for enjoying Ustream and similar poo poo. Did end up seeing the new Youtube app, but it didn't even dawn on me that they pushed out something besides new app links. As for the volume thing it cracks me up that the problem still hasn't been solved in general in the industry. Now every big TV in the store has Internet crap built directly into it, but they can't master an old rear end problem like volume normalizing because if they get it right people wouldn't be blasted out of their seat by lovely commercials. Because the best way to sell your new scented candle is by startling me the gently caress out with your shouting, right.
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# ¿ May 12, 2011 17:42 |
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I guess the new firmware is hosed again. I don't really want to wade through 40 pages of replies but it wouldn't update automatically and there's already a thread posting instructions on how to remove it: http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=35225 Anyone brave enough to read that pile of spam they call a forum and find out what is broken this time? edit: oh hey, I found it in a comment on the blog post: quote:With the change where True HD no longer decoded to multi PCM, but rather downmixed to 2.0, Boxee Box is now incapable of providing ANY HD audio streams without problems. Bitstreaming of DTSMA and Dolby TrueHD do not work correctly (constant dropouts). I find it ridiculous that Boxee says they find it hard to reproduce (and by inference to fix) when pretty much every HD audio user on the Boxee Box Owner thread on AVSForum can reproduce it with virutally any HD audio track. CrashCat fucked around with this message at 01:54 on May 13, 2011 |
# ¿ May 13, 2011 01:48 |
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TraderStav posted:Avoiding the update until I hear some success stories from my trusted goons. Also the update brought back the problem of the box not shutting down after giving it the command and the screen going blank that used to happen to me occasionally. Not a big problem but still irritating.
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# ¿ May 13, 2011 18:26 |
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DaWolfey posted:Anyone know any good app repositories for whatever might be out there ? dir.Streamfree.tv repository.boxee.thinkonezero.com navi-x.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/boxee/ And actually those last two are supposed to be in the dir.streamfree.tv anyway as they made it a sort of short list. The post at http://streamfree.tv/boxee-repos/ has all the various horrible links to repo stuff but the above are really the only ones worth adding unless you speak something besides English.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2011 22:37 |
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Not to mention the drat thing was discontinued super quick. I moved about three years ago and in that time BB was released and entirely dumped. If I had bought a low spec used PC and remade it as an HTPC at that time instead of the Box, I probably wouldn't even have the problems I'm having since my regular PC actually has a proper web browser that can handle pages with dumb custom scrollbars. But no, I wanted the easy way out
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2013 18:19 |
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jonathan posted:So I installed XBMC onto my boxee today. The instructions are pretty easy and straight forward. Install Boxee+Hacks. Copy Custom build xbmc onto thumb drive, insert into box, reboot. XBMC!
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2013 00:03 |
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deong posted:And I assume everyone saw, but Boxee.tv forums were hacked and lost everyones email/pass.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2014 22:12 |
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Better yet, I got one of those combo deals from Comcast with some TV included and they give me a lovely little box that plays the local channels in lovely blurry SD quality. You gotta pay an extra charge or two to get ANYTHING in HD, even if it comes over the air that way. I actually ended up running an amplified antenna just so I could get those channels in HD on the rare occasion I actually want to watch something live nearby. The Boxee TV thing I got is just a tuner so it won't help you if you can't get the TV in your room in the first place. An amplified antenna somewhere near the wall closest to the exterior of the building is probably the best you're gonna manage unless you pony up to Comcast or a competitor.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2014 17:53 |
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Yeah just buy an amplified antenna. Amazon makes one for like $62. I just bought one and it works fine.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2014 18:01 |
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Woah, that's actually kinda cool. I definitely need to check to see if my TVs have DNLA then because right now I only have the antenna hooked up to one TV.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2014 18:45 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 12:28 |
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deong posted:A friend of mine has a https://simple.tv. Its basically a self owned aereo system.
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