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Jeez I see so many hawks for 3K+ these days, and I want to take advantage. Then I realize there is no bike for 3k+ that could make me happier than the hawk and I want to keep it forever.
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Coydog posted:Jeez I see so many hawks for 3K+ these days, and I want to take advantage. Then I realize there is no bike for 3k+ that could make me happier than the hawk and I want to keep it forever. Honestly this one is worth about $3k, it's a few scrapes and a rear shock away from being perfect. The frame and swingarm are perfect and here are no rashes on the cases, the whole thing is hospital clean:  My pic, just before I sold it. I'm not that good at many things but I can clean up and polish metal things with the best of them.
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Feb 24, 2021 17:53
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Jealousy is threatening to consume me rn, they're so rare now even though they used to be everywhere, deeply regret not getting one when I had the chance.
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Feb 24, 2021 18:46
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That looks great. What do you use to clean/polish?
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Feb 24, 2021 18:52
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builds character posted:That looks great. What do you use to clean/polish? Nothing really set in stone but I follow the principle of using the least aggressive chemical/applicator/technique to get the job done and only get more aggressive if needed. My first step when I get any dirty old bike is to hose it down in a wash of undiluted simple green. I let that sit for a few minutes, if it's bad I might do it again. Then I start going at the aluminum and steel bits with a bunch of plastic brushes. Avoid painted surfaces. I start with a big brush that is basically a tire brush, it has long strands that can get in the creases and can cover a lot of area. This first scrubbing is enough to get the light dirt and grease off that hasn't had ages to stick. What you're left with is brake dust and years of caked on grease fling. The best thing I have found to remove that stuff is kerosene. Put some in a cup or jar and use a plastic brush and elbow grease and it will come off. Then rinse with soap and water. Depending on how far you want to go, you can make things look perfect. Never use steel brushes unless absolutely necessary it will scrape any paint or clear off aluminum. You can use brass but plastic works better for this. Mostly though, the whole process is just a combination of elbow grease, irrational determination, and a love of shiny metal. Once things are clean you can use any type of aluminum polish to really make things pop but I generally do not. I also don't put waxes on unpainted surfaces. Once things are clean, it's extremely easy to keep them clean. Since you don't have to scrub off old grit it's a 5 minute wash with soap and water to make it spotless again. I went to the extreme on the Hawk above:  Slavvy posted:Jealousy is threatening to consume me rn, they're so rare now even though they used to be everywhere, deeply regret not getting one when I had the chance. I sold this one two years ago for (I think $2600) which was a decent price. There weren't exactly people beating down my door to get it. If I could buy it back at that price I would. It's by far the nicest Hawk I've ridden with all that was rebuilt on it the thing felt brand new.
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Feb 24, 2021 19:29
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Gorson posted:I sold this one two years ago for (I think $2600) which was a decent price. As opposed to this travesty that has been listed for months, and dude has actually RAISED his price since he initially listed it. There was another Hawk listed for around $3500 that was in showroom condition that took a while to sell, and this guy wants most of $5k for  
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Feb 24, 2021 19:48
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Jazzzzz posted:As opposed to this travesty that has been listed for months, and dude has actually RAISED his price since he initially listed it. There was another Hawk listed for around $3500 that was in showroom condition that took a while to sell, and this guy wants most of $5k for PRICE GOING UP DAILY!! But for real
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Feb 24, 2021 19:49
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Thanks for the tips, Gorson. I don't have the space to store the bike where getting it sparkling is worth it, but I'll see how far I get with simple green. My hawk is filthy and I'm ashamed. The worst part of this is the headlight. edit: No wait I've found many worse things in a quick look at the listing. At what point do you just buy an SV650 if you want it to look like that?
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Jazzzzz posted:As opposed to this travesty that has been listed for months, and dude has actually RAISED his price since he initially listed it. There was another Hawk listed for around $3500 that was in showroom condition that took a while to sell, and this guy wants most of $5k for Gross. The monster seat is a pretty common mod I hate it. Only tank that should go on a Hawk is a Hawk tank, the frame is way too narrow. Other than that this is mostly stock with TBR headers (meh) and a delkevic can. I had this same can on a Hawk and didn't care for the sound. Forks are ok I guess. Wheels are stock boat anchors. This is a $2k bike. I bet it rides pretty great, I just don't care for the mods. *e rear shock is worth about $600 in good shape that's the value here, IF the asking price is $2000. Gorson fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Feb 24, 2021 |
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Feb 24, 2021 19:54
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 Probably a dumb question, but are these as good as everyone says? I test drove a Wee-Strom once and it kinda felt like a turd. Don't know if they are tuned differently, or are different motors altogether.
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They’re the same motor. It’s still a 650 v-twin so if you’re expecting huge power it’s not gonna deliver. Although I’d argue that at least half of the appeal of the SV is its fantastic chassis, which you don’t get on the vstrom
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Feb 28, 2021 16:30
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That's a really good price on a black framed SV. I've ridden a 650 strom and while it's the same motor, it didn't feel as powerful and nimble as my old sv. Granted, the sv was my first bike and felt like a rocket. They are mid 70s HP, so they are kinda a rocket. But it's a vtwin so power delivery is different. Not sure what you are used to.
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Feb 28, 2021 18:31
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NM4 mention in other thread sent me price checking and I found... this?  https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2016-Honda-NM4-5015616480
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Mar 1, 2021 18:00
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I sigh and draw my katana. It's rear tyre time.
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Mar 1, 2021 18:37
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Coydog posted:That's a really good price on a black framed SV. I've ridden a 650 strom and while it's the same motor, it didn't feel as powerful and nimble as my old sv. Granted, the sv was my first bike and felt like a rocket. They are mid 70s HP, so they are kinda a rocket. But it's a vtwin so power delivery is different. Not sure what you are used to. iirc the 650 in the Strom is detuned a tad from its SV installation.
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I can imagine that a V-strom could feel a bit sluggish and flat if it's a detuned engine with a bigger bike to push. I've heard from more people that it's a detuned SV block. In an SV, however, the engine feels very lively. Plenty of power, smooth enough delivery, and totally happy pulling away from 2500 revs onwards. I prefer it over the Ducati Monster engine of slightly larger size.
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Well at the time I was riding my first bike, which was an '84 CB650. So yea, it would have felt just a bit different. I'm willing to accept it would feel a lot different on the Strom. The only thing that has me waffling so much on my next bike is how important things like ABS are. I never owned anything with it. A Proper Uppercut fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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Slavvy can correct me if I'm wrong here, but the most important thing is TCS. You don't need ABS, but you really need TCS to keep you from spinning out and crashing during a surprise low traction event. Something like a patch of sand on a corner, with an entry speed of 100+, is the right thing to use TCS for.
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Coydog posted:Slavvy can correct me if I'm wrong here, but the most important thing is TCS. You don't need ABS, but you really need TCS to keep you from spinning out and crashing during a surprise low traction event. Something like a patch of sand on a corner, with an entry speed of 100+, is the right thing to use TCS for. Well in that case, I'm hosed because TCS is not nearly as common as ABS from what I've seen.
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Mar 1, 2021 23:06
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Oh I said that specifically to anger Slavvy. ABS is fine, and a requirement on my next bike as well.
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Coydog posted:Oh I said that specifically to anger Slavvy. ABS is fine, and a requirement on my next bike as well.  Godamnit
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Mar 1, 2021 23:18
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Buy that SV and spend the savings (relative to ABS) on better gear and tires.
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If you have ABS you can get away with race pulloffs from your buddies. Or just used tires on fb marketplace. Really, ABS pays for itself in the long run.
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Mar 2, 2021 03:26
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Are you trolling or what I honestly can't tell
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He's trying to troll me at the expense of the dozens of people quietly lurking and taking notes. Suffice it to say: all of that stuff is bad and wrong and just dumb poo poo morons say, nobody here believes it. Get the best tyres and gear you can afford, get abs if you can afford it, never forget the best safety device and performance enhancer is the gooey poo poo between your ears so try to focus on upgrading the poo poo out of that.
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Uh no the new rider thread is the only one you should take notes on. The rest of em you just grip it and ride the bzzzzzt to savings.
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Coydog posted:Uh no the new rider thread is the only one you should take notes on. The rest of em you just grip it and ride the bzzzzzt to savings. That's fair.
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Coydog posted:NM4 mention in other thread sent me price checking and I found... this? I can see preserving a classic car's patina but an intentional rust paint job.. on a futuristic body shape? I really don't get it
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You can do without ABS quite well if you ride in high grip conditions. You can brake very hard on dry warm pavement without locking up the wheels. However, if your roads just aren't as grippy, are wet, or often have a dusting of sand and grit, ABS is very useful. I'm very much split between buying a newish bike with ABS and euro 4/5 compliancy, or buying the old stuff while i can still ride it and negligibly pollute cities that have low emissions zones but are not yet banning bikes...
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LimaBiker posted:You can do without ABS quite well if you ride in high grip conditions. You can brake very hard on dry warm pavement without locking up the wheels. Yea, I mean I know I can ride without it, because I've never had it before, but eeeeeh. That plus the lack of PO fuckery on a new bike has me leaning towards that I think.
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LimaBiker posted:You can do without ABS quite well if you ride in high grip conditions. You can brake very hard on dry warm pavement without locking up the wheels. Buy both.
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Steakandchips posted:Buy both.
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https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/d/chicago-2014-suzuki-sfv650/7285039627.html Hmmm... that seems like a decent price. 
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captainOrbital posted:https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/d/chicago-2014-suzuki-sfv650/7285039627.html It is, but someone is too ashamed to use the word "Gladius".
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Their shame is going to be someone's financial good fortune.
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captainOrbital posted:Their shame is going to be someone's financial good fortune. Yup. Then again for around $6k you can get one whose heritage is not tainted by terrible marketing: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3614492081930617/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search
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Mar 2, 2021 20:47
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Do it. Buy the gladius
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This is what I like about the Gladius. Someone else was selling a traditional SV650 for the SAME PRICE on CL except that it was 10 years older and had twice the miles. poo poo, I'll take the Gladius all day. I mean I'm not going to bc I want a sumo right now, but
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Oh snap that's a tank *fairing*?! So just a plastic piece you can replace whenever instead of a whole tank? Great stuff. I want to hate the gladius but I think a tail tidy, rearsets, and round headlight, would be all you need to make it a solid looking bike. Not one for the record books, but you know.
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