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KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012

Easter was an Inside Job


Steve bannon makes appearance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_gkBPlLcfQ

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Brettbot
Sep 18, 2006

After All The Prosaic Waiting... The Sun Finally Crashes Into The Earth.

Sagacity posted:

I agree it was a very interesting documentary. It's pretty traditional in its setup but it works.

Yeah I guess I can see how some people would be disappointed. I found the story fascinating and loved the '90s tech aesthetic, but it was a very standard documentary otherwise.

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012


Just saw Generation Wealth on Amazon. loving hell, that is some depressing poo poo.

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQfuq_zz1Jk

The Golden Gael
Nov 12, 2011



I hope this is fine - my minidoc on the infamous Sylvia Browne has sparked some great discussion in a PYF thread, and I think it might be of some value to the folks on this thread. So I present Sylvia Browne - How a Psychic Scams America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J91qNpR5F7A

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


The Golden Gael posted:

I hope this is fine - my minidoc on the infamous Sylvia Browne has sparked some great discussion in a PYF thread, and I think it might be of some value to the folks on this thread. So I present Sylvia Browne - How a Psychic Scams America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J91qNpR5F7A

This owns, thank you for this!

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




Mr Shiny Pants posted:

Just saw Generation Wealth on Amazon. loving hell, that is some depressing poo poo.

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQfuq_zz1Jk

I wanna strangle the "If you think money will buy you everything and anything you've never had money" guy so bad.

In the eternal words of Kanye West: "Having money's not everything/Not having it is"

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010



battlepigeon posted:

Thanks for the recommendation! Are there any other documentaries in the same vein as this? The Act of Killing comes to mind atleast.

I just watched Harlan County, USA which is much different than both of those films but deals with anti-democracy movements and sanctioned terror against peasant/worker populations. It's a great film and even though it takes place during the early 1970's it occurs in an economic climate almost identical to the US in 2020.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004



Iíve been watching a poo poo load of Comicbook Kayfabe which led me down a comic book documentary kick.

Comic Book Confidential feels legendary in how it was in the perfect moment of time in comics history to capture interviews with some stone cold historical legends and also future comic legends in the early days of their careers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8SgkTEjH1k

The boys even did their own commentary for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfRInZaLLWA

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006



ruddiger posted:

Iíve been watching a poo poo load of Comicbook Kayfabe which led me down a comic book documentary kick.

Comic Book Confidential feels legendary in how it was in the perfect moment of time in comics history to capture interviews with some stone cold historical legends and also future comic legends in the early days of their careers.

I just watched this last weekend! The interviews are indeed incredible. Not just that but the creative choices to blend the subject with the style were so solid. Modern "topic" docs could learn a lot from it.

PS this is on Criterion Channel as well in case folks wanted to check it out in crisp resolution.

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012


Groovelord Neato posted:

I wanna strangle the "If you think money will buy you everything and anything you've never had money" guy so bad.

In the eternal words of Kanye West: "Having money's not everything/Not having it is"

Yep, if you have a lot of money it is easy to just say "it doesn't matter" but if you don't have it, it is literally the worst thing ever. Especially after seeing people getting evicted during a pandemic.

Segue
May 23, 2007


I just watched Gianfranco Rosi's new movie Notturno and it's almost as good as Fire at Sea.

It's much more sprawling since it takes a look at the small moments of daily life by multiple Middle Eastern conflict zones, but just like Fire it has some of the best pictures ever committed to film.

It's a wonderful, languid ride and the sound design is incredible. Really sad I had to watch it at home instead of a theatre, but it's so so good at using small moments to speak for much larger ones.

Morton Haynice
Sep 9, 2008

doop doop
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Popping in to recommend Netflix's My Octopus Teacher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0LTDhqe5A

It's a beautiful film that's more of a spiritual experience than a science doc.
A man dove with the same octopus every day for a year, and recorded everything. You pretty much see her entire life.
It was so moving to watch this strange alien creature go from inking and hiding at first, to holding the filmmaker's hand and resting on his chest by the end.

If I have one issue, it's that the "line you can't cross" he talks about in the trailer isn't well-defined.
At two points, the octopus is attacked by sharks, and he doesn't intervene. I understand why he doesn't help, but it's just not consistent with him also feeding her and helping her hunt with his presence (When about to pounce on a lobster, she positions herself so the camera is blocking off escape). Then at the very end of her life, when she's too weak to move and can't fight off the tiny fish biting her, he still hangs back. This is an animal with intelligence comparable to a cat or dog, dying alone and in pain. If it were me, I'd at least have tried to comfort her in those last moments. It's not like he was hesitant to pet her before.

All that said, it's still a great film and very powerful.
Not ashamed to admit I cried. (You probably will too.)

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012

Easter was an Inside Job


Would recommend it too, it looked great on my new 4k TV. You can tell the guy is kinda interviewing himself tho.

I did not cry

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007


In January I met this filmmaker who is also a professor in Northwesternís school of journalism and I ended up telling him he reminded me of a friend of mine that he ended up knowing as well. Anyways, he was at the bar as part of a documentary he was making about the closing of Youngstown, OHís only daily newspaper and the hole that would be left by it. And apparently it made Youngstown the largest city in the US without a daily newspaper.

Itís a good little doc, and Iím in it! Iím the geek in the glasses and red hoodie at the bar like 3/4 in.

https://localnewsinitiative.northwestern.edu/posts/2020/10/01/watch-newstown/index.html

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' YA'LL TO KEEP IT TIGHT


Groovelord Neato posted:

I wanna strangle the "If you think money will buy you everything and anything you've never had money" guy so bad.

In the eternal words of Kanye West: "Having money's not everything/Not having it is"

Pretty much, or alternately "$1000 isn't a lot to have but it's a lot to owe"

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




How do you make a four episode series on the Challenger disaster and not talk about what actually happened to the crew? It was part of the failure in the Shuttle program.

JaneError
Feb 4, 2016

how would i even breathe on the moon?

For the Americans, Driving While Black premieres tomorrow night on PBS. My grad school program director/professor wrote the book itís based on; just wanted to signal boost it for anyone who might be interested:

https://www.pbs.org/show/driving-while-black/

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



Groovelord Neato posted:

How do you make a four episode series on the Challenger disaster and not talk about what actually happened to the crew? It was part of the failure in the Shuttle program.

Typical Netflix documentary style. Just donít really give you the actual full picture.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004



JaneError posted:

For the Americans, Driving While Black premieres tomorrow night on PBS. My grad school program director/professor wrote the book itís based on; just wanted to signal boost it for anyone who might be interested:

https://www.pbs.org/show/driving-while-black/

Thanks for posting this. Definitely gonna check this out.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


Anyone catch "The Mole: Infiltrating North Korea" on BBC? I thought it was excellent and tense as hell. If you get a chance to see it, go in knowing as little about it as possible.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




The REAL Goobusters posted:

Typical Netflix documentary style. Just donít really give you the actual full picture.

Speaking of another Netflix documentary I watched not giving the full picture:

https://twitter.com/non_bona_dicta/status/1316239480320294917?s=20

Thread cataloging them leaving out all the financial difficulties the family was having (and they had them about as bad as you can).

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



Iíll agree with that. Netflix seem to be in a rut where they need every true crime thing to have a gimmick now, regardless if that affects the narrative. The stuff on YouTube from a year ago about this case was a more interesting watch and has access to the same footage. The social media stuff was loving lame when they donít tell you the context of it or make any kind of commentary.

remigious
May 13, 2009

Destruction comes inevitably




Hell Gem

Groovelord Neato posted:

Speaking of another Netflix documentary I watched not giving the full picture:

https://twitter.com/non_bona_dicta/status/1316239480320294917?s=20

Thread cataloging them leaving out all the financial difficulties the family was having (and they had them about as bad as you can).

There are YouTube documentaries out there that cover it better. I was annoyed that the Netflix doc intentionally left out some major details in an effort to mislead the audience. basically that everyone knew he was super guilty from the get go

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




EL BROMANCE posted:

Iíll agree with that. Netflix seem to be in a rut where they need every true crime thing to have a gimmick now, regardless if that affects the narrative. The stuff on YouTube from a year ago about this case was a more interesting watch and has access to the same footage. The social media stuff was loving lame when they donít tell you the context of it or make any kind of commentary.

The only part I liked about the texting was how stupid it made Chris Watts look. You lose sixty pounds and haven't had sex with your wife in over a month do you think maybe she'll suspect something.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007


The only thing I liked about that particular documentary was that it managed to tell its story completely through body cam footage, news reports, and social media posts/texts. I always enjoy documentaries that kind of immerse you in the topic without having talking heads and narrators telling you their very biased opinion of what happened.

Obviously it has its flaws too in that thereís not a lot of nuance that can be conveyed in that kind of documentary and this was the perfect example of that.

The OJ chase 30 for 30 was great in that regard. Perhaps the best example of that type of doc.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



The OJ 30 For 30 is fantastic, as it took a story everyone knew (or at least thought they knew) and showed you the context of the day around it from a sports point of view, which I had no idea was so crazy. It was expertly edited.

The Watts doc took something awful that happened that some people knew, but I'm guessing most didn't, and decided because there was a bunch of publicly accessible video they could tell the story like that and just jammed it all together hoping it would work. And oops, better trim this stuff out from the beginning because if you see that then there's not much else worth watching it for. The social media and text conversation stuff was just cheap timefiller because due to the rules they set out for themselves, there's no real context for it and you're confined to video someone is taking specifically to shill MLM crap with zero objective commentary. I couldn't even compare the two except in a 'this is an example of how to do it well, and this is an example of how not to'. I have no issues with taking an alternate approach to making something as it can be a real eye opener in some cases, but the Watts thing is just a gimmick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfg861hO-Ag

This is the first of 3 parts of an amateur YouTube person who had access to the same stuff and did a better job a year earlier because they aren't trying to force a narrative. It's a far better use of your time, imo.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


Jim Can't Swim is nobody's amateur.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



Oh dude seems to know his poo poo from a psychological/criminal POV, I meant more the YouTube filmmaking part was amateur. Bad wording on my behalf.

battlepigeon
Aug 3, 2008



Stare-Out posted:

Anyone catch "The Mole: Infiltrating North Korea" on BBC? I thought it was excellent and tense as hell. If you get a chance to see it, go in knowing as little about it as possible.

Seconding this! I didn't even know that there were so many North Korea fan-clubs around.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


battlepigeon posted:

Seconding this! I didn't even know that there were so many North Korea fan-clubs around.

Yeah, I've been trying to catch as many good NK docs as possible lately and this has been the highlight so far. If it was a movie I wouldn't believe half the stuff that happens in it. Kinda crazy how much access they got, it's like a legit spy thriller. I really, really hope people don't sleep on this one.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012

Easter was an Inside Job


EL BROMANCE posted:

The Watts doc took something awful that happened that some people knew, but I'm guessing most didn't, and decided because there was a bunch of publicly accessible video they could tell the story like that and just jammed it all together hoping it would work. And oops, better trim this stuff out from the beginning because if you see that then there's not much else worth watching it for. The social media and text conversation stuff was just cheap timefiller because due to the rules they set out for themselves, there's no real context for it and you're confined to video someone is taking specifically to shill MLM crap with zero objective commentary. I couldn't even compare the two except in a 'this is an example of how to do it well, and this is an example of how not to'. I have no issues with taking an alternate approach to making something as it can be a real eye opener in some cases, but the Watts thing is just a gimmick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfg861hO-Ag

This is the first of 3 parts of an amateur YouTube person who had access to the same stuff and did a better job a year earlier because they aren't trying to force a narrative. It's a far better use of your time, imo.

thank you for saving me the time of watching another bad netflix docu

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012

Easter was an Inside Job


that channel has this as well which was good for a lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x2NaGkl6BI

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



Dude seems to be on YouTube (and still high as balls) and youíll get a good lol when you find out where heís originally from...

https://youtu.be/KgKbegZHIxE

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012

Easter was an Inside Job


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLZA_Tfe_vI
History channel has seemed to dump a lot of modern marvels to their channel.

its not scanned film, but its way better than the pirated versions ive been finding online on other non history channel accounts, so its kinda nice actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLZA_Tfe_vI&list=PL4F4CD715F1A3E6C7

KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Oct 19, 2020

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013



After a long road to get made and find a distubutor, the documentary about the Church of the SubGenius is finally available on Amazon, Apple TV etc and after having seen it, even ignoring my pro-ďBobĒ tendencies, itís a really lovely, thoughtful, well made documentary and I am not sure what our little UFO Death Cult did to deserve to be the subject of such a polished and nice film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJdJEEZvhsA

(Yours truly shows up in the background of some of the X Day shots and only tonight did I even learn that I am in a movie and thatís a lot of fun)

RaffyTaffy
Oct 15, 2008


quote:

Parts of a Circle: History of the Karabakh Conflict (2019) chronicles the disputed history of the decades-old conflict between Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Based on a series of three documentary films jointly produced over five years by Conciliation Resources and its partners the Media Initiatives Center, Internews Azerbaijan, and the Humanitarian Research Public Union, the film showcases journalistic cooperation in bridging societies in conflict.

https://vimeo.com/407942633

Figure this is slightly relevant due to current events.

The Scientist
Nov 6, 2009



Ramrod XTreme

This is such a great doc, possibly my favorite of Herzog's:

Little Dieter Needs to Fly
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145046/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

About Dieter Dengler, a german immigrant who became a US pilot in the Vietnam War and survived being shot down and a pow for 6 months. If you ever need a something earnestly inspirational but not sappy, check it out. Somewhat subdued stylistically for Herzog.

In the same vein:
Wings of Hope
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0249248/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_29

Incredible stories.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011






Stare-Out posted:

Anyone catch "The Mole: Infiltrating North Korea" on BBC? I thought it was excellent and tense as hell. If you get a chance to see it, go in knowing as little about it as possible.

It's mind boggling how a couple of amateurs can infiltrate an authoritarian police state so easily. "James" is just pulling lies out of his rear end (he doesn't even know what to call his fake company before he's in North Korea) and everybody completely buys it. They just let them take videos and pictures in their super secret villain lair.

One of my favorite moment is how everybody stress that you have to be able to keep up with the drinking in North Korea and then the two danes completely drink them under the table.

Alhazred fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Nov 29, 2020

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004



Thereís a really great little doc with William Friedkin reflecting on making the Exorcist called Leap of Faith thatís on Shudder right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiWIuXh3m74

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Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


Alhazred posted:

It's mind boggling how a couple of amateurs can infiltrate an authoritarian police state so easily. "James" is just pulling lies out of his rear end (he doesn't even know what to call his fake company before he's in North Korea) and everybody completely buys it. They just let them take videos and pictures in their super secret villain lair.

One of my favorite moment is how everybody stress that you have to be able to keep up with the drinking in North Korea and then the two danes completely drink them under the table.

Yeah, I was blown away how much they were able to film with actual cameras, I was expecting way more of it to be hidden camera stuff, which were the most tense scenes in the whole thing. It's amazing two people who were essentially amateurs were able to keep their cool and just lie on the fly so convincingly.

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