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Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004



Yeah that was nuts. Really was. But an interesting footnote.

They should have just combined episodes 1 and 4. Maybe Netflix ordered 4 episodes and they were like poo poo

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




I almost want to watch to see how they stretched it out so much. Even with going over the internet theorizing nonsense aspect of it I'd be hard pressed to do more than an hour on the case.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007


Thereís actually a lot of extra info about the Cecil Hotel itself and itís links to other crimes, deaths, and murders which I found wayyyyyy more interesting than all the obnoxious internet sleuths.

edit: holy poo poo this is by the same guy that directed the Paradise Lost documentaries?!

Mahoning fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Feb 15, 2021

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004



But all the Cecil stuff is completely unrelated to the case. Utterly unimportant.

Oh man it's the same director? What a shame, it's not even in the same league. I mean the English couple... what the gently caress. Wasting my drat time

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Alan_Shore posted:

But all the Cecil stuff is completely unrelated to the case. Utterly unimportant.

Oh man it's the same director? What a shame, it's not even in the same league. I mean the English couple... what the gently caress. Wasting my drat time

Yeah. "we got there after everything happened and have nothing to do with anything." Uhhhhh.

Web sleuth.

Who the gently caress greenlighted this?

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006



True crime documentaries are to Netflix and streaming services in general what cheap slasher flicks were to the late 1980s movie industry. Theyíre super cheap to make and probably guarantee at least a minimal return.

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


fuck money
smoke bitches
get trees


Wait, what? I thought after reading a bunch and watching lots of "unsolved"-type youtubes that the elisa lam thing was just a really sad case of mental illness? does this doc demonstrate something more was going on? I know it all seemed very spooky but there was never anything concrete to point to in terms of fishiness

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest


Does anyone know where I can find "Secrets of Blackmoor"? It seems to have been scrubbed from the internet. If there's a doc streaming service I don't know about please let me know.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




Hooplah posted:

Wait, what? I thought after reading a bunch and watching lots of "unsolved"-type youtubes that the elisa lam thing was just a really sad case of mental illness? does this doc demonstrate something more was going on? I know it all seemed very spooky but there was never anything concrete to point to in terms of fishiness

It was a woman who had some kind of episode who fell (or jumped) into a water tank. Like a lot of unsolved mysteries misinformation was spread online to make it out to be more than it was. I could understand maybe getting two episodes if you really go in depth about the internet stuff and how they turned it into something it wasn't but four episode is absurd.

I'm pretty sure the YouTube video I watched that debunked all the "mysterious" elements was less than half an hour long.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Feb 16, 2021

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


fuck money
smoke bitches
get trees


That's what i figured.

anyone else ever check out Conspiracy of Silence? Did a search of the thread and didn't see any talk of it. british doc about the franklin credit scandal.

here's some info from the youtube description:

quote:

In mid-1993, after The Franklin Cover-Up had been circulating for almost a year, the British-based TV station, Yorkshire Television, sent a top-notch team to Nebraska to launch its own investigation of the Franklin case. Yorkshire had a contract with the Discovery Channel to produce a documentary on the case for American television.

They spent many months in Nebraska, and also travelled this country from one end to the other, interviewing, filming, and documenting piece-by-piece the Franklin story as I had told it in the book. They spent somewhere between a quarter-million and one-half million dollars investigating the story, deploying probably a thousand times the resources and abilities that I personally had.

Over the year that I worked with them, I was amazed at the teamís ability to gather new documents and witnesses which kept opening up new and frightening facts about Franklin. They were a crack team. In the final weeks that they were in Nebraska, they expressed their certainty that they would win awards for this documented horror story of government-sanctioned abuse of children; and government protection of some of this countryís most powerful businessmen and politicians, who had been the chief acts in the Franklin story.

Finally, the big day came. Their documentary was to air nation-wide on the Discovery Channel on May 3, 1994. It was advertised in the TV Guide and in newspapers for that day. But no one ever saw that program. At the last minute, and without explanation, it was pulled from the air. It was not shown then, and has never been broadcast anywhere since.

there's some pretty wild accusations, but given the books written on the topic, it seems there was probably a lot of truth to it.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007



Anyone have links for the last few episodes? 4-6 are showing as not available in the US.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


Hooplah posted:

That's what i figured.

anyone else ever check out Conspiracy of Silence? Did a search of the thread and didn't see any talk of it. british doc about the franklin credit scandal.

here's some info from the youtube description:


there's some pretty wild accusations, but given the books written on the topic, it seems there was probably a lot of truth to it.

Yep, it pops up on YouTube every so often.

clockworx
Oct 15, 2005
The Internet Whore made me buy this account

The Elisa Lam case is admittedly very weird, especially with the elevator video and the gross out factor of how they finally discovered the body. Itís one of those cases where itís just ďwe donít know exactly what happened but thereís nothing pointing to anything other than an accident.Ē (once the hatch question was finally settled)

As usual, a bunch of people making stream-of-consciousness YouTube videos donít add much to the story.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



If thereís anything ĎDonít gently caress With Catsí proved, itís that internet detectives importance is pretty much polar opposite to their belief. Not that this really came as a surprise to anyone outside those circles.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007


Just found a great documentary on YouTube about Marvin Heemeyer (the killdozer guy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AuJohMrq5Y

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYo1ydur000

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?


I was really looking forward to Q: Into the Storm on HBO and now that Iím 4 episodes in Iím pretty annoyed. Itís really slick and everything but 4 episodes in they havenít even done a small 3 minute segment on what Tye Q followers actually believe. Bits and pieces are interspersed throughout in talking head segments but just a quick outline of what the followers actually say the conspiracy actually is would go a long way.

Itís clearly trying to make the people running 8chan look ridiculous, it would only help that by doing a little tiny segment saying ďand this is what all that q research on 8chan is actually talking aboutĒ to drive home just how dumb the whole loving thing is.

As it stands now at 4 episodes in itís just a slicky produced garbage documentary about 8chan with a side of ďtech giants shouldnít silence peopleĒ

GutBomb fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Apr 20, 2021

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



It doesn't really change, the whole show seems to be about the rehabilitation of Fred and gawking at the 8chan guys weirdness. It kinda feels like it should've just been about the effect of 'free speech' on the web and the people who push it, rather than basing it just around Q. There's not really any real (on screen, at least) attempt to work out who and why it was started, just who happens to be running it now when it's at the point where Q themselves simply doesn't matter.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008



Itís about how a 4chan pol poster suddenly was able to actually wield power

battlepigeon
Aug 3, 2008



https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8396314

Raoul Peck's newest tv-series feels like more of a essay than a regular documentary, but it is well worth a watch. If you liked his previous documentary "I am not your negro" you will definitely like this one.

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KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012

Easter was an Inside Job


Is Philly DA on any of you's radar?

https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/philly-da/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=phillyda_2021

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